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    terraricca
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    Marty

    do you believe this verse being true ;1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???


    Hi Pierre:

    I believe what the scripture states.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    , from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???

    one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came

    what are “all things ” to you ???


    Hi Pierre:

    This is what the scriptures state:

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    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  

    Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he(God) made the worlds;

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    Col 1:12   Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  

    Col 1:13   Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:  

    Col 1:14   In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:  

    Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  

    Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  

    Col 1:17   And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  

    Col 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.  

    Col 1:19 ¶ For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;  

    Col 1:20   And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, , whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    I know what scriptures says, but you did not answer my question ,why ???

    #349567
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,16:10)

    Quote (942767 @ July 01 2013,07:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,11:40)

    Quote (942767 @ July 01 2013,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,09:22)
    Marty

    do you believe this verse being true ;1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???


    Hi Pierre:

    I believe what the scripture states.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    , from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???

    one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came

    what are “all things ” to you ???


    Hi Pierre:

    This is what the scriptures state:

    Quote
    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  

    Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he(God) made the worlds;

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    Col 1:12   Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  

    Col 1:13   Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:  

    Col 1:14   In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:  

    Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  

    Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  

    Col 1:17   And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  

    Col 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.  

    Col 1:19 ¶ For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;  

    Col 1:20   And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, , whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    I know what scriptures says, but you did not answer my question ,why ???


    Hi Pierre:

    I did answer your question by quoting the following verse:

    You asked me what do all things mean to me:

    And this is what it means to me:

    Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #349585
    terraricca
    Participant

    marty

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    Hi Pierre:

    I did answer your question by quoting the following verse:

    You asked me what do all things mean to me:

    And this is what it means to me:

    Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    Love in Christ,

    are you really believe that i am this ignorant ???

    or are you ??? unless you understand what that scripture says and have knowledge or you do not have knowledge what I know you do ,you have already got this discussion with Mike ,

    as an pastor of God's flock ,honesty and trustfulness is the qualities that can not be disregarded ,so please answer or this conversation is ended .

    #349613
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2013,12:02)
    marty

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    Hi Pierre:

    I did answer your question by quoting the following verse:

    You asked me what do all things mean to me:

    And this is what it means to me:

    Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  

    Love in Christ,

    are you really believe that i am this ignorant ???

    or are you ??? unless you understand what that scripture says and have knowledge or you do not have knowledge what I know you do ,you have already got this discussion with Mike ,

    as an pastor of God's flock ,honesty and trustfulness  is the qualities that can not be disregarded ,so please answer or this conversation is ended .


    No, Pierre, I don't believe that you are ignorant, but I do believe that you are misunderstanding some scriptures, but please do not judge me to be dishonest. You are not my judge.

    But yes, I believe that this conversation is ended because I showed you by the scriptures how Jesus came down from the Father, and you still have not shown me that he came down other than the way that I have shown you by the scriptures.

    I am praying that God will give you understanding of the scriptures.

    But also, I believe that you need to repent for suggesting that I am dishonest.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #349615
    942767
    Participant

    Also, Pierre, relative to Mike and you:

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    Luk 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #349616
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,16:10)

    Quote (942767 @ July 01 2013,07:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,11:40)

    Quote (942767 @ July 01 2013,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,09:22)
    Marty

    do you believe this verse being true ;1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???


    Hi Pierre:

    I believe what the scripture states.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    , from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???

    one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came

    what are “all things ” to you ???


    Hi Pierre:

    This is what the scriptures state:

    Quote
    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  

    Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he(God) made the worlds;

    Quote
    Col 1:12   Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  

    Col 1:13   Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:  

    Col 1:14   In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:  

    Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  

    Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  

    Col 1:17   And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  

    Col 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.  

    Col 1:19 ¶ For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;  

    Col 1:20   And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, , whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    I know what scriptures says, but you did not answer my question ,why ???


    Terra.

    What Marty is saying from whom we live.
    Meaning that we live through Christ,and for Christ;
    and without Christ we are dead spiritually.

    wakeup.

    #349617
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ July 02 2013,09:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2013,12:02)
    marty

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    Hi Pierre:

    I did answer your question by quoting the following verse:

    You asked me what do all things mean to me:

    And this is what it means to me:

    Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  

    Love in Christ,

    are you really believe that i am this ignorant ???

    or are you ??? unless you understand what that scripture says and have knowledge or you do not have knowledge what I know you do ,you have already got this discussion with Mike ,

    as an pastor of God's flock ,honesty and trustfulness  is the qualities that can not be disregarded ,so please answer or this conversation is ended .


    No, Pierre, I don't believe that you are ignorant, but I do believe that you are misunderstanding some scriptures, but please do not judge me to be dishonest.  You are not my judge.

    But yes, I believe that this conversation is ended because I showed you by the scriptures how Jesus came down from the Father, and you still have not shown me that he came down other than the way that I have shown you by the scriptures.

    I am praying that God will give you understanding of the scriptures.

    But also, I believe that you need to repent for suggesting that I am dishonest.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    You have not shown me anything ,and have not answered my question

    The verse you quoted is talking about many things I only ask one specific thing,

    So be it ,

    #349618
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ July 02 2013,09:11)
    Also, Pierre, relative to Mike and you:

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    Luk 6:39   And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Yeah ,this does not prove you are right and true

    #349620
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,09:22)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,16:10)

    Quote (942767 @ July 01 2013,07:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,11:40)

    Quote (942767 @ July 01 2013,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2013,09:22)
    Marty

    do you believe this verse being true ;1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???


    Hi Pierre:

    I believe what the scripture states.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    , from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.???

    one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came

    what are “all things ” to you ???


    Hi Pierre:

    This is what the scriptures state:

    Quote
    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  

    Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he(God) made the worlds;

    Quote
    Col 1:12   Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  

    Col 1:13   Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:  

    Col 1:14   In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:  

    Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  

    Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  

    Col 1:17   And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  

    Col 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.  

    Col 1:19 ¶ For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;  

    Col 1:20   And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, , whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    I know what scriptures says, but you did not answer my question ,why ???


    Terra.

    What Marty is saying from whom we live.
    Meaning that we live through Christ,and for Christ;
    and without Christ we are dead spiritually.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup

    I ear what you are saying ,but be carefull of how you read those scriptures ,it seems if you are right ,that Marty read the scriptures backwards this is not how Paul wrod it ,wen you start reading start at verse 15 and see that their is a progressive that as only one direction to it ,and that starts from Christ being in heaven coming to earth and going back to heaven after accomplishing his father,s will ,

    And so your comment being true but not related to my discussion with Marty,

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