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We all should know that when Jesus commences His 1000 year reign in His kingdom, that Satan will be locked up for those 1000 years.
Example:
Revelation 20:7 > And when the thousand years are expired, (speaking of Christ's 1000 year reign) Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.
So since Satan's sentence expires at the same time Christs 1000 year kingdom is fulfilled, then it stands to reason that Satan's prison sentence must also begin when Christ begins His 1000 year reign.
Before moving on, notice the verse says that the 1000 years will expire?
That's quite significant.
How would one measure the expiry date on a metaphoric number?
Why give a metaphoric number to a literal legal sentence?Nevertheless, one meaning of expire is to finish & to run out.
And since that definition fits the context, in this case a prison sentence, then we can safely assume that Satan has been given a set time of incaceration as a sentence to fulfill before being eligible for release.
Now this is a judgment.
A legal punishment.
We need recognise that.One does not pass metaphoric dates for sentences in a legal environment.
Now if you stand before a judge and he tells you that you are to be locked up for 10 years, then you would expect to be serving 10 years behind bars.
And the court records would read 10 years on paper.Now if they refused to release you after the 10 years, the court records would be summoned and the sentence period revealed, in this case, 10 years.
Thus, unless you were brought before the courts prior to the legal expiry of your sentence with new charges, the courts would have no legal right to hold you any longer and you would be released.Now, again, what if the records read 10 years, and after you were locked up the judge said, “No, no, I really meant 40 years, I was being metaphoric!”
Do you think that would stand?
Remember, this is a legal judgment…
Would it stand?
Of course not.
So why should it likewise stand in Satan's very literal imprisonment?
It just becomes contradictory, because you would be using double standards!Nevertheless, this logic on its own is not enough to bring those who say that Satans sentence of 1000 years is not really a literal 1000 years, likewise Christ's 1000 year reign also not really being a literal 1000 years reign, but instead, metaphoric for many many years.
Which leads me to what I believe is the strongest scriptural example of Satans 1000 year sentence being just that, a literal 1000 years…
And since his 1000 years end when Christs 1000 year reign also concludes, then these verses literally kill two birds with one stone…Now remember court records record the judgment.
The legal document recording all charges and penalties with time to be served and its literal expiry date.Finally, here are the scriptures I believe can mean nothing less than a LITERAL 1000 year sentence…
Revelation 20:2 >And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 20:3 >And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Now before I explain, you may already know it or just spotted it…nevertheless…
Anybody notice something within those verses that would contain a legal record? instructions? An expiry date?
Please have a go…
Hi Devo.
Firstly, I do not believe that the book of Revelation is in any type of chronological order.
When John says “and I saw…. then I saw….and I looked”, etc….. to me, this is much like if one were to stand in a room with many televisions that are all showing different parts of one movie. The person would turn to one screen (part) and then to another. John saw visions though not necessarily in chronological order.IF the thousand year millennium is a literal one thousand years still future, then the kingdom of a thousand years would be in heaven. This is another view that I could agree with. But still, it does not quite fit the fact that Satan is bound (limited in power) and the words of Jesus that this good news will be preached around the world as a testimony to all of the nations and then the end will come.
As for Satan being bound, you say all that you did in the above post. But scripture tells us, Jude 1:9:
When the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.
That is my ten cents on this thread.
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 30 2013,09:57) Hi Devo. Firstly, I do not believe that the book of Revelation is in any type of chronological order.
When John says “and I saw…. then I saw….and I looked”, etc….. to me, this is much like if one were to stand in a room with many televisions that are all showing different parts of one movie. The person would turn to one screen (part) and then to another. John saw visions though not necessarily in chronological order.IF the thousand year millennium is a literal one thousand years still future, then the kingdom of a thousand years would be in heaven. This is another view that I could agree with. But still, it does not quite fit the fact that Satan is bound (limited in power) and the words of Jesus that this good news will be preached around the world as a testimony to all of the nations and then the end will come.
As for Satan being bound, you say all that you did in the above post. But scripture tells us, Jude 1:9:
When the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.
That is my ten cents on this thread.
Hi 2besee,Revelations certainly jumps around a bit and is in no way laid out chronologically, something we have never ever said BTW.
In saying that, there are however chapters that do flow into each other and we'd do well to remember that as Christians who seek the deeper mysteries.
As for this post, It ends with a question, so I've not yet finished making my point.
Tell me, out of curiosity, can you see anything in those verses I've highlighted that could point to a LITERAL 1000k reign?
Cheers.
2besee,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Firstly, I do not believe that the book of Revelation is in any type of chronological order. Hi 2Besse, and anyone else who wants to join in,
Yes you are correct, in some cases God will be speaking of something, and then slip something else in there to totally confuse! These are the hidden gems. You can pick them, ONLY if you have read corresponding verses elsewhere. If not, we would be totally loss, or will see it only one way.
My kids love those little puzzles in the magazines where two pictures are identical, but with minor differences. “Spot the difference.” They have to really look hard. It's not obvious, so they have to really inspect every detail.
For example, Rev chapter 21:1 John speaks of a new heaven and a new earth. It says the first heaven and first earth were passed away. He then sees the “holy city”, “new Jerusalem” coming down from God out of heaven
[v2]….prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
John then hears a great voice coming from heaven saying that
[v3] …Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
[v4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away
[v7] He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Christ doesn't seem to be mentioned in this part.[v8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars shall have their part which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
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then in the same chapter verse 10, John has another vision, and was carried away to a great high mountain in the spirit and shown “that great city, the holy Jerusalem”, descending out of heaven from God.
[v9] And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lambs wife.He has just described this holy city twice. The first time, it looked like a wife adorned for her husband, now, in the second part verse 11, the light of this city is like precious stones. It has a great wall, high, and has twelve angels at the gates. The gates have the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. The wall of the city had 12 foundations, and in them the names of the 12 apostles. Then the angel measured the city and measured the gates, and the walls, and the length and the height. The city measured 12,000 furlongs long, and 12,000 furlongs wide, and 12,000 furlongs high. This is approximately 2414km square. And the wall was measured at 400 cubits, which is approximately 936m high. This city has boundaries, even over the air. And the twelve foundations are garnished with precious stones. Christ is mentioned here now,
[v22] “And I saw no temple therein, for the LORD God Almighty AND the Lamb are the temple of it”Now it says
[v24] And the the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it, and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it.
[v26] And they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.
and again;
[v27] And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.SPOT THE DIFFERENCE
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chapter 22
[v1] And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[v2] In the midst of the street of it, and either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
[v3] And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him
[v4] And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
[v5] And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign forever and ever.The answer
The SEAL!!
EVERY SINGLE METAPHOR IN THE BIBLE IS ALSO EXPLAINED SOMEWHERE IN THE BIBLE.
SEAL is NOT.
So until somebody can find the metaphoric explanation for SEAL in the scriptures, it can only be ONE thing…a LITERAL seal!!And I tell you with 100% surety, there is NO explanation for SEAL anywhere…anywhere in the scriptures AT ALL.
You find it, and ill give you everything I own!
Not gonna happen!So Satans 1000 year imprisonment is LITERAL.
And since his imprisonment & release COINCIDES with Christs kingdom being set up & handed over (continuance), then Christs 1000 year reign must likewise be LITERAL.And UNTIL somebody finds a metaphoric meaning to seal, then you too, ALL OF YOU, have no choice, you MUST accept this 1000 years as LITERAL also.
For you have no scriptural evidence to say otherwise, only ASSUMPTIONS.You may say, “but how can I conclude all this just by the seal” you could say that I am merely ASSUMING too!
Well besides the coming of Christ flowing into the imprisonment of Satan and flowing into events taking place thereafter…understanding what a seal is helps!Here are some points:
A SEAL has several uses depending on the PURPOSE.
And what PURPOSE was Satan being sealed for?A SENTENCE.
A LEGAL JUDGMENT.So this seal for all intents and purposes had no other USE other than being representative of a LEGAL JUDGMENT.
Other words, a DECLARATION.How can I be sure?
Easy, notice God had His angel SET this SEAL upon Satan…
It was SET.
So this seal which was with the angel, ended up on Satans prison.
And when something is used in this manner, it is AFFIXED….which is to set in place, which is exactly what the angel did!
Now seals differ one from another according to their PURPOSE.
The PURPOSE for any given seals particular use, determined what emblem, or information would be expected to be found imprinted thereon.When judgment is cast against a criminal, what is legally recorded is that criminals CRIME, his PUNISHMENT, and if applicable, his TERM of detention (time)
Again, look at the CONTEXT that this seal is being APPLIED.
It is being APPLIED to a LEGAL JUDGMENT upon one who is to be IMPRISONED for a SET TERM.Now look at how a seal is DEFINED when it is being AFFIXED, SET UP…
>To affix a seal to, in order to prove authenticity or attest to accuracy, legal weight, quality, or another standard.
>To grant, certify, or designate under seal or authority.
>To establish or determine irrevocably: Our fate was sealed.
Notice that a seal when used this way (affixing) CONTAINS INFORMATION?
Again, what does the verse say about this seal?
Revelation 20:3 >And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Notice the CRIME for THIS JUDGMENT: that he should deceive the nations no more
Notice the TERM to be SERVED: till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
Notice the instructions once said TERM is SERVED: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Sound familiar?
Quote When judgment is cast against a criminal, what is legally recorded is that criminals CRIME, his PUNISHMENT, and if applicable, his TERM of detention (time) Therefore, this seal MUST contain INFORMATION.
This LITERAL seal being placed on a LITERAL prison for a LITERAL term to be SERVED.Again, this can only mean that Christs 1000 year kingdom must likewise be LITERAL…for it coincides with Satan's 1000 year imprisonment and release as described in revelations.
I will stop here for now.
All Thoughts welcome.
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