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  • #281589
    Marlin1
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    Hi Wakeup,

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    #1 The tree of life is in most Christian homes to day,but unfortunately they dont come near it.  For to follow the commandments,only means to give up all the wonderful things this world can give,and this is too big of a sacrifice.

    #2 The tree of life was in eden in the form of a tree,with fruits,Adam could not touch it,for the door to God was closed.

    #3  In Jerusalem 2000yrs ago ;the tree of life was walking amongst men; in the form of a man, the man Jesus.

    #4 Today,the tree of life is amongst us in the form of a book,called the holy bible; The words in this book gives life,but men refuse to feed on it;They rather just go to church to enjoy the gathering,and the music and sight seeing.

    JESUS SAID; EAT MY FLESH,FOR MY FLESH IS MEAT INDEED.

    And it is much more interesting to read books, and glossy magazines, ABOUT the bible.

    wakeup.

    Hi Wakeup,

    I believe you are putting forth a mixed tree here.  I have numbered above your points.

    #1.  I totally agree with this point.

    #2.  The tree of life was never a literal tree.  It was always God.

    #3.  Amen, I agree.

    #4.  The tree of life was never a book and it will never be a book.  The bible is the guide to the Tree of Life only.  Today the Tree of Life is in His Bride.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #281604
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 29 2012,11:36)
    Hi Wakeup,

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    #1 The tree of life is in most Christian homes to day,but unfortunately they dont come near it.  For to follow the commandments,only means to give up all the wonderful things this world can give,and this is too big of a sacrifice.

    #2 The tree of life was in eden in the form of a tree,with fruits,Adam could not touch it,for the door to God was closed.

    #3  In Jerusalem 2000yrs ago ;the tree of life was walking amongst men; in the form of a man, the man Jesus.

    #4 Today,the tree of life is amongst us in the form of a book,called the holy bible; The words in this book gives life,but men refuse to feed on it;They rather just go to church to enjoy the gathering,and the music and sight seeing.

    JESUS SAID; EAT MY FLESH,FOR MY FLESH IS MEAT INDEED.

    And it is much more interesting to read books, and glossy magazines, ABOUT the bible.

    wakeup.

    Hi Wakeup,

    I believe you are putting forth a mixed tree here.  I have numbered above your points.

    #1.  I totally agree with this point.

    #2.  The tree of life was never a literal tree.  It was always God.

    #3.  Amen, I agree.

    #4.  The tree of life was never a book and it will never be a book.  The bible is the guide to the Tree of Life only.  Today the Tree of Life is in His Bride.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Hi Marlin1.

    The tree of life in eden had to be guarded by cherubims and a flaming sword.Its not just a spiritual invisible tree.Its real.

    The Holy bible is also called THE BOOK OF LIFE.
    THE WORD OF GOD,(JESUS).

    The only book that leads us to knowing God.
    There is no other book,but the holy bible: By seeking this book,not just reading, we can find God,and therefore find life.

    ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY THE INSPIRATION OF GOD,AND IT IS PROFITABLE FOR DOTRINE,AND FOR REPROOF,FOR CORRECTION,FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    The holy jerusalem will come down from God to earth: This is a spiritual city(woman),and the saints live in that city.
    And will be ruled in righteousness.On this earth.

    The great city babylon is also a spiritual city(woman),and all the wicked are in that city.This city is the whole system of this world,on this earth.

    The bride is not the source of life: The word of God is.
    Dont see the bible as just a book(ink and paper); but what it is teaching us,the knowledge we get by seeking,and decerning the word.Jesus is not with us in the flesh to teach us,but he has left us Gods word,which is Jesus.

    THank you Merlin1.

    wakeup.

    #281653
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    The Holy bible is also called THE BOOK OF LIFE.
    THE WORD OF GOD,(JESUS).

    The only book that leads us to knowing God.
    There is no other book,but the holy bible: By seeking this book,not just reading, we can find God,and therefore find life.

    ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY THE INSPIRATION OF GOD,AND IT IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE,AND FOR REPROOF,FOR CORRECTION,FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    I can see you have a God of confusion.  There is hardly two people on here that agree on anything.  Yet they every one have at least one bible.  And most have many.

    I tell you this, reading the bible is good, but you could know it letter for letter and still be lost.
    You could study it and it only from your youth and still be lost.
    The bible was meant to lead us to Christ, which by the way, He is still knocking and will come in to those that will become like little children and come His way.  For He has always had a provided way.

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    Jesus is not with us in the flesh to teach us,but he has left us Gods word,which is Jesus.

    He is in me.  If you don't have Him then you are none of His.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #281674
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Marlin1.

    What is the evidence that jesus is in you or anybody?
    Is it just by personal feelings,Or some miracle?
    Or some other ?
    Can Jesus be in us,by just looking at him and say,I believe,I believe and that would be sufficient? many are doing this.

    I say; there must be a follow up,and that is of the eating of his flesh,so he can be part of us.
    Without the eating there is no union.

    For many will say Lord, Lord,I did many things in your name.
    And I believe,I have faith,I never failed going to church every sunday,I always pray,I did this and that in your name.

    He will say; who are you? I dont know you,go away.
    Why is it so? Because there never has been an attempt made,to have a union with him,therefore you are a stranger to him.

    I say the two spirits have to unite,by eating his flesh; or when the day comes that we must face him;HE WILL ASK; WHY ARE YOU NAKED? what is one to answer him?

    You have a nice day.

    wakeup.

    #281690
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    The breaking of bread and sharing of the cup remind us that one man died and his blood was spilt and that many men come to share in his life.
    His words are Spirit and life to his brothers and sisters but a source of fascination and amusement to the world.

    #281728
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    #1  What is the evidence that jesus is in you or anybody?
    #2  Is it just by personal feelings,Or some miracle?
    Or some other ?
    #3  Can Jesus be in us,by just looking at him and say,I believe,I believe and that would be sufficient? many are doing this.

    #4  I say; there must be a follow up,and that is of the eating of his flesh,so he can be part of us.
    Without the eating there is no union.

    #5  For many will say Lord, Lord,I did many things in your name.
    And I believe,I have faith,I never failed going to church every sunday,I always pray,I did this and that in your name.

    He will say; who are you? I dont know you,go away.
    Why is it so? Because there never has been an attempt made,to have a union with him,therefore you are a stranger to him.

    #6  I say the two spirits have to unite,by eating his flesh; or when the day comes that we must face him;HE WILL ASK; WHY ARE YOU NAKED? what is one to answer him?

    Wakeup, I think I can see what you are trying to say.

    # 1&2.  Acts 2:38-39 states that this will be.  The evidence of the filling to the person being filled, will be some sort of supernatural personal experience, that Satan will never be able to take away.
    The evidence to the rest of the Bride of Christ, will be, can the person receive the Word for the Hour they are living. There has always been a message for ever age, yet most of the people of any given age, missed the message of the hour and believe the dogmas that their church taught. Only those that have His Spirit will hear(see, understand) the message for their hour.

    # 3. The simple answer to this question is NO.  Acts 2:38-  Repentance followed by correct water baptism – then God will give the Holy Ghost.  
    The three works of grace.  Justification, Sanctification, baptism of the Holy Ghost.      
    When a person believes they are Justified, (Many are Called).  But the person is not clean yet.  In the process of Sanctification the person get cleaned up by the Holy Ghost.
    Then after the person is cleaned and continues in the faith, God seals him with the Holy Ghost. (Few are Chosen)
    Acts 19:2 They had believed, but had not received the Holy Ghost.
    Acts 8:16 They hadn't received the Holy Ghost yet.
    Our way doesn't work, it will be done God's way or we are just spinning our wheels.

    #4.  Reading the bible is not eating of His Flesh.  If it was then we would all say the same thing, which we do not.  Eating of His Flesh is when Jesus' Spirit in you reveals it to be true to your Spirit.  Most want to put the cart before the horse.  They think they can understand the bible before they have the Spirit.  Yet Jesus said, Unless you be born again, you will never see, (understand) the Word.

    #5.  There are three types of people.  Make believers (the ones spoke of here), the unbelievers (They could care less about God). The believers (They belong to Him).

    #6.  I believe you are saying here that the Spirit is in the Written Word.  It is the Spirit in the believer that makes the person able to understand the written Word.  And they are ONE.

    God Bless you my Brother
    Marlin

    #281737
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Marlin,
    “Be baptised FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
    acts 2
    The Holy Ghost sanctifies but does not clean up.

    #281741
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2012,14:30)
    Hi Marlin,
    “Be baptised FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
    acts 2
    The Holy Ghost sanctifies but does not clean up.


    N
    Hmmmmmm ???

    #281744
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 29 2012,18:36)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Quote
    #1 The tree of life is in most Christian homes to day,but unfortunately they dont come near it.  For to follow the commandments,only means to give up all the wonderful things this world can give,and this is too big of a sacrifice.

    #2 The tree of life was in eden in the form of a tree,with fruits,Adam could not touch it,for the door to God was closed.

    #3  In Jerusalem 2000yrs ago ;the tree of life was walking amongst men; in the form of a man, the man Jesus.

    #4 Today,the tree of life is amongst us in the form of a book,called the holy bible; The words in this book gives life,but men refuse to feed on it;They rather just go to church to enjoy the gathering,and the music and sight seeing.

    JESUS SAID; EAT MY FLESH,FOR MY FLESH IS MEAT INDEED.

    And it is much more interesting to read books, and glossy magazines, ABOUT the bible.

    wakeup.

    Hi Wakeup,

    I believe you are putting forth a mixed tree here.  I have numbered above your points.

    #1.  I totally agree with this point.

    #2.  The tree of life was never a literal tree.  It was always God.

    #3.  Amen, I agree.

    #4.  The tree of life was never a book and it will never be a book.  The bible is the guide to the Tree of Life only.  Today the Tree of Life is in His Bride.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    M

    Ge 3:22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

    pay attention to what scriptures are saying not men made comments,

    how could Adam reach and take from the tree if it was not a real tree ????

    #281745
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The HOLY Spirit of God in Christ sanctifies.
    rom 15.16, 1 cor 6.11, 1 thess 5.23 heb 2.11

    Can you offer other verses about CLEANUPS?

    [This may be a misunderstanding about words]

    #281756
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    The Holy Ghost sanctifies but does not clean up.

    Interesting Nick,

    Sanctify

    2) to separate from profane things and dedicate to God, to consecrate
    3) to purify

    Nick, I might have misunderstood you. Do you believe that God will live in an unholy vessel.

    When He calls we answer, we are forgiven. (Many are Called), But we are still doing wrong things.  He, by His Spirit with us cleans us out.  This can only happen if we summit our will to Him.  Then after we are cleaned then we are ready to be put into service (Sanctified).  Then He will indwell in us. (Few are Chosen)

    John 14:17 ……..but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    MAT 22:14 †     For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Just as He walked with the disciples 3 1/2 years, He also walks with us.  And for those that will continue pressing on. He will indwell them.

    And even after all this, we strive to be sin free, we still make mistakes,  He forgives us.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #281758
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Marlin,
    Vessels need to be washed.
    2 Tim 2 .20f

    #281765
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Amen Nick, That's what I mean. That is a work of the Spirit.

    #281766
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi M,
    Vessels need to washed to be made ready for the HOLY Spirit

    #292464
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Rev 20
    7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

    10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    So while Satan is imprisoned Jesus and his brothers restore what Satan's influence has destroyed on earth
    such that now the lion can lie with the lamb and a child can go safely into an asp's nest.

    The kings of the are made to accept this godly rule[ps2]

    But when the 1000 years are up there is a final release of satanic based rebellion on earth and all involved are drawn to attack Jerusalem and are then destroyed cleansing the earth.

    #299324
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    The day of rest,
    the SEVENTH DAY,
    is the millenial reign.
    Heb 4

    #299837
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Nick.
    I could not agree more.

    wakeup.

    #299839
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,02:54)
    Hi,
    Rev 20
    7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

    10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    So while Satan is imprisoned Jesus and his brothers restore what Satan's influence has destroyed on earth
    such that now the lion can lie with the lamb and a child can go safely into an asp's nest.

    The kings of the are made to accept this godly rule[ps2]

    But when the 1000 years are up there is a final release of satanic based rebellion on earth and all involved are drawn to attack Jerusalem and are then destroyed cleansing the earth.


    N

    this is missing a lot of things ,but keep reading

    #300083
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 01 2012,08:11)

    Quote
    The Holy Ghost sanctifies but does not clean up.

    Interesting Nick,

    Sanctify

    2) to separate from profane things and dedicate to God, to consecrate
    3) to purify

    Nick, I might have misunderstood you. Do you believe that God will live in an unholy vessel.

    When He calls we answer, we are forgiven. (Many are Called), But we are still doing wrong things.  He, by His Spirit with us cleans us out.  This can only happen if we summit our will to Him.  Then after we are cleaned then we are ready to be put into service (Sanctified).  Then He will indwell in us. (Few are Chosen)

    John 14:17 ……..but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    MAT 22:14 †     For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Just as He walked with the disciples 3 1/2 years, He also walks with us.  And for those that will continue pressing on. He will indwell them.

    And even after all this, we strive to be sin free, we still make mistakes,  He forgives us.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin.

    The spirit of truth does cleans us,but we dont just sit and wait for the holy spirit to come to us,like some meditation and wait for it to come.

    We must seek the truth,and find the truth by feeding on the flesh of Christ.Once we have the truth,then we are cleansed by knowing what is good and what is bad.What is clean and what is unclean in Gods eyes.

    The truth stops us from sinning,we are all slaves of sin,but knowing the truth stops us from repeating the same sin.
    The truth will set you free from sin.

    Many Christians worship idols of saints and angels,because they dont know what is right and what is wrong in Gods eyes.
    And they dont know because they dont seek; so they are repeating their wrong doings, thinking they are serving God.

    Jesus said; dont seek for the bread that does not give eternal life;but seek the bread that comes from heaven,he is life eternal.

    So the Holy spirit contains in the word; the truth is –IN– the word.

    satan has the spirit of lies,for he is the father of it.
    Some people also have the spirit of lies in them,they dont stop lying.From such stay away.

    wakeup.

    #303458
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You say
    “We must seek the truth,and find the truth by feeding on the flesh of Christ.Once we have the truth,then we are cleansed by knowing what is good and what is bad.”

    Knowledge cleanses us??

    The tree of knowledge of good and evil did not help Adam.

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