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Quote (Colter @ April 04 2013,07:02) Quote (Mary @ April 04 2013,05:57) I think the book of revelation is the expression of the time it was written in! Much can be gather from the deep emotional cry that has been delivered to us! It's not wasted, the condition of battle is valued an I am thankful an wise about this
I think John sent his secretary to the printer with the manuscript and the lad dropped the papers, lost some and got the rest all mixed up but was to embarrassed to tell John so they just printed that rambling rant of lunacy.If no 2 people even agree on what the book reveals then it doesn’t reveal anything at all.
The BOR was edited by apocalyptic writers, some material was removed as well.
Colter
Lol, yes, an I'm not impressed by just two agreeing or three! Smells to much like government
Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,23:09) Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,06:12) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) Quote (Mary @ April 02 2013,07:32) After a kingdoms truth has been attacked several times by other books, it may take some hard word to find establish them within the ruins of their generations, But one thing is sure! If that kingdom was grand! It may not be found writing books to destroy others
May god rise up the ruins of such a kingdom
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
Colter.The kingdom is in the ub believers only.
The ub kingdom.
Not Gods kingdom.Gods kingdom is placed in us through knowledge.
by knowledge we can see the great picture of the kingdom.
By knowledge we can put the dots together and see the big picture of the kingdom.And the Holy bible *only* can provide the seekers with the big picture of the kingdom of God.No other book can.wakeup.
That's book worship, I don't believe your doctrine created by evil priest to control you.The Books of the Bible themselves don't even claim divine authorship, that idolatrous idea came latter as a way for the clever to rule the ignorant through fear and superstitious awe.
The UB doesn't claim to be the word of God. God is not an idol, but a living God.
Colter
Colter.How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship?
Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,23:09) Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,06:12) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) Quote (Mary @ April 02 2013,07:32) After a kingdoms truth has been attacked several times by other books, it may take some hard word to find establish them within the ruins of their generations, But one thing is sure! If that kingdom was grand! It may not be found writing books to destroy others
May god rise up the ruins of such a kingdom
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
Colter.The kingdom is in the ub believers only.
The ub kingdom.
Not Gods kingdom.Gods kingdom is placed in us through knowledge.
by knowledge we can see the great picture of the kingdom.
By knowledge we can put the dots together and see the big picture of the kingdom.And the Holy bible *only* can provide the seekers with the big picture of the kingdom of God.No other book can.wakeup.
That's book worship, I don't believe your doctrine created by evil priest to control you.The Books of the Bible themselves don't even claim divine authorship, that idolatrous idea came latter as a way for the clever to rule the ignorant through fear and superstitious awe.
The UB doesn't claim to be the word of God. God is not an idol, but a living God.
Colter
Colter.How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship?
Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
I can say it because the Bible does not claim divine authorship, the Church authorities claim that.I'm not trying to offend you, just to tell you the truth.
Colter
Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship? Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
Wake up,All presidents are not required to be sworn in on the bible.
Theodore Roosevelt did not use a Bible when taking the oath in 1901.John Quincy Adams swore on a book of law.
Johnson was sworn in on a Roman Catholic missal on Air Force One.
Thank the powers that be that we do not base our laws on the bible or we would still be stoning children who talk back to their parents, and non virgin unmarried women, and homosexuals to death. Our laws are much more moral and fair than the laws in the bible.
Also physically placing ones hand on a Bible and swearing an oath is not required nor was it ever legally enforceable in a court of law.
You are prone to giving out an awful lot of misinformation.
Tim.
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 04 2013,21:25) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship? Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
Wake up,All presidents are not required to be sworn in on the bible.
Theodore Roosevelt did not use a Bible when taking the oath in 1901.John Quincy Adams swore on a book of law.
Johnson was sworn in on a Roman Catholic missal on Air Force One.
Thank the powers that be that we do not base our laws on the bible or we would still be stoning children who talk back to their parents, and non virgin unmarried women, and homosexuals to death. Our laws are much more moral and fair than the laws in the bible.
Also physically placing ones hand on a Bible and swearing an oath is not required nor was it ever legally enforceable in a court of law.
You are prone to giving out an awful lot of misinformation.
Tim.
Timothy v1.I agree that not all are christians and therefore not swear on the bible. This is true.
But the western nations are based on the judaic/christian religion.
Lately they tried to get away with the bible.
This also is the falling away.What is your opinion regarding the Holy bible?
Is it a reliable source of spiritual information,or is it not to you? Where exactly do you stand?wakeup.
Quote (Colter @ April 04 2013,10:41) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,23:09) Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,06:12) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) Quote (Mary @ April 02 2013,07:32) After a kingdoms truth has been attacked several times by other books, it may take some hard word to find establish them within the ruins of their generations, But one thing is sure! If that kingdom was grand! It may not be found writing books to destroy others
May god rise up the ruins of such a kingdom
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
Colter.The kingdom is in the ub believers only.
The ub kingdom.
Not Gods kingdom.Gods kingdom is placed in us through knowledge.
by knowledge we can see the great picture of the kingdom.
By knowledge we can put the dots together and see the big picture of the kingdom.And the Holy bible *only* can provide the seekers with the big picture of the kingdom of God.No other book can.wakeup.
That's book worship, I don't believe your doctrine created by evil priest to control you.The Books of the Bible themselves don't even claim divine authorship, that idolatrous idea came latter as a way for the clever to rule the ignorant through fear and superstitious awe.
The UB doesn't claim to be the word of God. God is not an idol, but a living God.
Colter
Colter.How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship?
Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
I can say it because the Bible does not claim divine authorship, the Church authorities claim that.I'm not trying to offend you, just to tell you the truth.
Colter
Colter.You dont offend me a all.
Where are we suppose to seek and find?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,03:51) Quote (Colter @ April 04 2013,10:41) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,23:09) Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,06:12) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) Quote (Mary @ April 02 2013,07:32) After a kingdoms truth has been attacked several times by other books, it may take some hard word to find establish them within the ruins of their generations, But one thing is sure! If that kingdom was grand! It may not be found writing books to destroy others
May god rise up the ruins of such a kingdom
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
Colter.The kingdom is in the ub believers only.
The ub kingdom.
Not Gods kingdom.Gods kingdom is placed in us through knowledge.
by knowledge we can see the great picture of the kingdom.
By knowledge we can put the dots together and see the big picture of the kingdom.And the Holy bible *only* can provide the seekers with the big picture of the kingdom of God.No other book can.wakeup.
That's book worship, I don't believe your doctrine created by evil priest to control you.The Books of the Bible themselves don't even claim divine authorship, that idolatrous idea came latter as a way for the clever to rule the ignorant through fear and superstitious awe.
The UB doesn't claim to be the word of God. God is not an idol, but a living God.
Colter
Colter.How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship?
Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
I can say it because the Bible does not claim divine authorship, the Church authorities claim that.I'm not trying to offend you, just to tell you the truth.
Colter
Colter.You dont offend me a all.
Where are we suppose to seek and find?wakeup.
Seek and find God? In prayer, in spirit as Jesus did.Colter
Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,05:41) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,03:51) Quote (Colter @ April 04 2013,10:41) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,23:09) Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,06:12) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) Quote (Mary @ April 02 2013,07:32) After a kingdoms truth has been attacked several times by other books, it may take some hard word to find establish them within the ruins of their generations, But one thing is sure! If that kingdom was grand! It may not be found writing books to destroy others
May god rise up the ruins of such a kingdom
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
Colter.The kingdom is in the ub believers only.
The ub kingdom.
Not Gods kingdom.Gods kingdom is placed in us through knowledge.
by knowledge we can see the great picture of the kingdom.
By knowledge we can put the dots together and see the big picture of the kingdom.And the Holy bible *only* can provide the seekers with the big picture of the kingdom of God.No other book can.wakeup.
That's book worship, I don't believe your doctrine created by evil priest to control you.The Books of the Bible themselves don't even claim divine authorship, that idolatrous idea came latter as a way for the clever to rule the ignorant through fear and superstitious awe.
The UB doesn't claim to be the word of God. God is not an idol, but a living God.
Colter
Colter.How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship?
Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
I can say it because the Bible does not claim divine authorship, the Church authorities claim that.I'm not trying to offend you, just to tell you the truth.
Colter
Colter.You dont offend me a all.
Where are we suppose to seek and find?wakeup.
Seek and find God? In prayer, in spirit as Jesus did.Colter
Colter.But how can we know God and Jesus without the Holy bible?
That God could be Krishna,or Budha,or Wishnu.
One could seek and pray to one of these?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,07:13) Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,05:41) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,03:51) Quote (Colter @ April 04 2013,10:41) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,23:09) Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,06:12) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) Quote (Mary @ April 02 2013,07:32) After a kingdoms truth has been attacked several times by other books, it may take some hard word to find establish them within the ruins of their generations, But one thing is sure! If that kingdom was grand! It may not be found writing books to destroy others
May god rise up the ruins of such a kingdom
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
Colter.The kingdom is in the ub believers only.
The ub kingdom.
Not Gods kingdom.Gods kingdom is placed in us through knowledge.
by knowledge we can see the great picture of the kingdom.
By knowledge we can put the dots together and see the big picture of the kingdom.And the Holy bible *only* can provide the seekers with the big picture of the kingdom of God.No other book can.wakeup.
That's book worship, I don't believe your doctrine created by evil priest to control you.The Books of the Bible themselves don't even claim divine authorship, that idolatrous idea came latter as a way for the clever to rule the ignorant through fear and superstitious awe.
The UB doesn't claim to be the word of God. God is not an idol, but a living God.
Colter
Colter.How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship?
Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE.
The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible.
The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice.
NOT THE UB.Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog.
wakeup.
I can say it because the Bible does not claim divine authorship, the Church authorities claim that.I'm not trying to offend you, just to tell you the truth.
Colter
Colter.You dont offend me a all.
Where are we suppose to seek and find?wakeup.
Seek and find God? In prayer, in spirit as Jesus did.Colter
Colter.But how can we know God and Jesus without the Holy bible?
That God could be Krishna,or Budha,or Wishnu.
One could seek and pray to one of these?wakeup.
Because those Gods aren't real.Is God just a theory to you, or do you really know him?
Is God merely a doctrine, a tradition, a possibility to you, or do you really have a faith based relationship with him?
There is only one God, if you seek him with all your heart he will respond in kind to you.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you EdQuote (Colter @ April 05 2013,11:59) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you Ed
Colter.How would you explain rev21?
New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven,
and isiah 11:6–10. 65:17–25?
rev.21:16.17?Will you say its just jewish fable?
Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine?Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,14:58) Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,11:59) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you Ed
Colter.How would you explain rev21?
New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven,
and isiah 11:6–10. 65:17–25?
rev.21:16.17?Will you say its just jewish fable?
Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine?
I don't know what Rev 21 means, not sure what the symbolism is, but I know that my heavenly Father would never dip his children in a lake of fire, that's really mean to accuse God of such sadistic behavior.Colter.
Quote (Colter @ April 06 2013,12:12) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,14:58) Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,11:59) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you Ed
Colter.How would you explain rev21?
New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven,
and isiah 11:6–10. 65:17–25?
rev.21:16.17?Will you say its just jewish fable?
Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine?
I don't know what Rev 21 means, not sure what the symbolism is, but I know that my heavenly Father would never dip his children in a lake of fire, that's really mean to accuse God of such sadistic behavior.Colter.
Colter.What about the gnashing of teeth?
Is it Gods plan to preserve the evil and wicked
forever and ever? And satan as well?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2013,17:38) Quote (Colter @ April 06 2013,12:12) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,14:58) Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,11:59) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you Ed
Colter.How would you explain rev21?
New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven,
and isiah 11:6–10. 65:17–25?
rev.21:16.17?Will you say its just jewish fable?
Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine?
I don't know what Rev 21 means, not sure what the symbolism is, but I know that my heavenly Father would never dip his children in a lake of fire, that's really mean to accuse God of such sadistic behavior.Colter.
Colter.What about the gnashing of teeth?
Is it Gods plan to preserve the evil and wicked
forever and ever? And satan as well?wakeup.
Those who reject salvation are not resurrected from the sleep of death. Like Satan's fate, their place shall not be found anymore. No one gets their teeth broken or cavities, we don't need teeth in extinction.Colter
10% new posts, 90% quotes. I might have to remove the ability to quote. It is hard to follow conversations like this. Perhaps that is a good thing.
Quote (Colter @ April 07 2013,10:20) Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2013,17:38) Quote (Colter @ April 06 2013,12:12) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,14:58) Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,11:59) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19)
“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you Ed
Colter.How would you explain rev21?
New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven,
and isiah 11:6–10. 65:17–25?
rev.21:16.17?Will you say its just jewish fable?
Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine?
I don't know what Rev 21 means, not sure what the symbolism is, but I know that my heavenly Father would never dip his children in a lake of fire, that's really mean to accuse God of such sadistic behavior.Colter.
Colter.What about the gnashing of teeth?
Is it Gods plan to preserve the evil and wicked
forever and ever? And satan as well?wakeup.
Those who reject salvation are not resurrected from the sleep of death. Like Satan's fate, their place shall not be found anymore. No one gets their teeth broken or cavities, we don't need teeth in extinction.Colter
Colter.That means that all the dead of all the generations
will stay dead.
Who exactly will be resurrected? For no man is good.
All sinned; no one can get there by works,but by mercy.
How do we get mercy? By following Jesus commandments.
Where are his commandments? In the Holy bible.(the word).Btw. Without the resurrection of Jesus there can not be a resurrection. We are all dead,and our faith is for nothing.
I know that Jesus is the first fruit,and all in Jesus will follow.wakeup.
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“the kingdom of heaven is within you”Colter
No it isn't.
Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer.Colter
We're the Pharisees believers?
No, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus.This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind.
The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers.
So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God.
Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world.
Colter
Hi ColterExcellent response!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thank you Ed
Colter.How would you explain rev21?
New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven,
and isiah 11:6–10. 65:17–25?
rev.21:16.17?Will you say its just jewish fable?
Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine?
I don't know what Rev 21 means, not sure what the symbolism is, but I know that my heavenly Father would never dip his children in a lake of fire, that's really mean to accuse God of such sadistic behavior.Colter.
Colter.What about the gnashing of teeth?
Is it Gods plan to preserve the evil and wicked
forever and ever? And satan as well?wakeup.
Those who reject salvation are not resurrected from the sleep of death. Like Satan's fate, their place shall not be found anymore. No one gets their teeth broken or cavities, we don't need teeth in extinction.Colter
Colter.That means that all the dead of all the generations
will stay dead.
Who exactly will be resurrected? For no man is good.
All sinned; no one can get there by works,but by mercy.
How do we get mercy? By following Jesus commandments.
Where are his commandments? In the Holy bible.(the word).Btw. Without the resurrection of Jesus there can not be a resurrection. We are all dead,and our faith is for nothing.
I know that Jesus is the first fruit,and all in Jesus will follow.wakeup.
Wakeup,I'm not sure what particular Christian sect you are under but you have some things confused.
* salvation is by faith in God, one does not need the Bible to find God.
* People went to heaven before the Son incarnate and made the way more clear.
Colter
Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2013,08:51) To all, Jesus is the Son of David's flesh and God's Spirit. The Spirit supersedes the flesh.
Joseph and Mary(1344.4) 122:1.1 “Joseph, the human father of Jesus (Joshua ben Joseph), was a Hebrew of the Hebrews, albeit he carried many non-Jewish racial strains which had been added to his ancestral tree from time to time by the female lines of his progenitors. The ancestry of the father of Jesus went back to the days of Abraham and through this venerable patriarch to the earlier lines of inheritance leading to the Sumerians and Nodites and, through the southern tribes of the ancient blue man, to Andon and Fonta. David and Solomon were not in the direct line of Joseph’s ancestry, neither did Joseph’s lineage go directly back to Adam. Joseph’s immediate ancestors were mechanics — builders, carpenters, masons, and smiths. Joseph himself was a carpenter and later a contractor. His family belonged to a long and illustrious line of the nobility of the common people, accentuated ever and anon by the appearance of unusual individuals who had distinguished themselves in connection with the evolution of religion on Urantia.
(1345.1) 122:1.2 Mary, the earth mother of Jesus, was a descendant of a long line of unique ancestors embracing many of the most remarkable women in the racial history of Urantia. Although Mary was an average woman of her day and generation, possessing a fairly normal temperament, she reckoned among her ancestors such well-known women as Annon, Tamar, Ruth, Bathsheba, Ansie, Cloa, Eve, Enta, and Ratta. No Jewish woman of that day had a more illustrious lineage of common progenitors or one extending back to more auspicious beginnings. Mary’s ancestry, like Joseph’s, was characterized by the predominance of strong but average individuals, relieved now and then by numerous outstanding personalities in the march of civilization and the progressive evolution of religion. Racially considered, it is hardly proper to regard Mary as a Jewess. In culture and belief she was a Jew, but in hereditary endowment she was more a composite of Syrian, Hittite, Phoenician, Greek, and Egyptian stocks, her racial inheritance being more general than that of Joseph.
(1345.2) 122:1.3 Of all couples living in Palestine at about the time of Michael’s projected bestowal, Joseph and Mary possessed the most ideal combination of widespread racial connections and superior average of personality endowments. It was the plan of Michael to appear on earth as an average man, that the common people might understand him and receive him; wherefore Gabriel selected just such persons as Joseph and Mary to become the bestowal parents.” UB
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