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Quote (jammin @ Feb. 08 2013,23:46) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 07 2013,17:07) Quote (jammin @ Feb. 06 2013,17:15) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 05 2013,13:06) Quote (jammin @ Feb. 05 2013,10:08) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 04 2013,16:03) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 26 2013,11:35) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 25 2013,23:54) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,19:57) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 25 2013,14:45) jammin,Jan. wrote:[quote=limjunus,Jan. 19 2013,17:40]
jammin,Jan. wrote:limjunus,
yes false teacher are roaming…and manalo is one of them
may God open your eyes
Dear Jammin,Quote yes false teacher are roaming…and manalo is one of them Everyone can accuse but it must be supported by proofs; or else it could be deemed a “heresy”.
Better luck next time, accuser.
you want proof?let me ask you first.
do you believe that manalo is the bird of prey in is 46.11?
yes or no?
Dear Jammin,Quote you want proof? let me ask you first.
do you believe that manalo is the bird of prey in is 46.11?
yes or no?Quote It is not a proof Jammin, it is a question?
Here is the written prophecies for our group (C.O.C). Isaiah 43:5-7, 10 KJV)
My answer to your question, Isa. 46:11 is YES.
But before you can give the meaning of the Bible verses, show your divine credential or proofs from the Bible that you have the authority to give the true meaning of the Bible verses, do you have? Yes or No?
im not yet done.LOL your messenger is truly a false teacher LOL
can you read in IS46.11 that the bird of prey is manalo?
give version boy and ill wait LOL
Dear Jammin,Quote can you read in IS46.11 that the bird of prey is manalo? give version boy and ill wait LOL
[color=red]Did John the Baptist, Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles, said that their name were written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah???
They just mentioned their written prophecies as their divine credentials. Not mentioning their names.
You really out of the knowledge of God, Jammin.
do not compare john to manalo boythose verse about john will be supported by the context and commentaries.
no bible scholars will believe that the bird of prey is manalo not even a commentary.
do you take vitamins boy? i think you should LOL
can you give a version or not?
Dear Jammin,WHO ARE YOU JAMMIN
WHO GAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO JUDGE THE WRITTEN PASSAGES OF THE BIBLE??? …. DO YOU HAVE A NOBLE RECORD OF BRINGING THE MILLION PEOPLE IN SERVING AND WORSHIPING THE LIVING GOD???You are one among the people of was creating a road blocked to the people called by God, leading to the salvation of their souls.
Who are you
Where is your authorization or your divine credential to prove that you are authorized speaker in behalf of God???
i am a member of the true Church of Christyour church is not a true church. manalo is a false teacher
ill repeat my question
do not compare john to manalo boy
those verse about john will be supported by the context and commentaries.
no bible scholars will believe that the bird of prey is manalo not even a commentary.
do you take vitamins boy? i think you should LOL
can you give a version or not?
Dear Jammin,Quote i am a member of the true Church of Christ your church is not a true church. manalo is a false teacher
ill repeat my question
do not compare john to manalo boy
those verse about john will be supported by the context and commentaries.
no bible scholars will believe that the bird of prey is manalo not even a commentary.
do you take vitamins boy? i think you should LOL
can you give a version or not?
Here is the proof: Isaiah 43:5-7, 10
the verse did not say that the bird of prey is manalo.make your own bible LOL
Dear Jammin,Why you did not show the name of
your church? Are you a Roman Catholic or a member of protestant sect?Ignoring my question is not appropriate and do not give me a reason to ignore you also.
im not ignoring your question. in fact, i still a have a question for you. but you are not answering mine boy.im a member of the TRUE church of christ.
not a church founded by manalo.can you verse that says that the bird of prey is manalo?
can you give a commentary that says manalo is the bird of prey?
can you give any bible scholars who believe manalo is the bird of prey?study hard boy.
make your own bible
Dear Jammin,Quote im not ignoring your question. in fact, i still a have a question for you. but you are not answering mine boy. im a member of the TRUE church of christ.
not a church founded by manalo.can you verse that says that the bird of prey is manalo?
can you give a commentary that says manalo is the bird of prey?
can you give any bible scholars who believe manalo is the bird of prey?Jammin, it is very easy to anyone to announce that he is the member of the TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, every christian religious groups were saying it with a proud. You must not forget that there are many false preachers and false prophets that leading the billions of people to the wrong paths.
God, gave us the pattern how to know the true chosen people of God and those groups of professing christian people but they are not of God, as what it was written in Isaiah 8:20.
To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word,it is because there is no light in them.
The Law is the commandments of God and the Testimony is the written prophecies to the true preacher of God, before they could be born. Without the above pattern, there is no “LIGHT” in them, means DARKNESS to those preachers not speaking in according to the Law and Testimony pattern of God.
Dear Jammin,
[/QUOTE]im not ignoring your question. in fact, i still a have a question for you. but you are not answering mine boy.
im a member of the TRUE church of christ.
not a church founded by manalo.can you verse that says that the bird of prey is manalo?
can you give a commentary that says manalo is the bird of prey?
can you give any bible scholars who believe manalo is the bird of prey? study hard boy.make your own bible
For the sake of our peaceful discussion and to respect the professional code of ethics I will give the answer you are longing for about the “bird of prey”
[/B]The Isaiah 46:11-13 is one among so many testimony of our Bro. Felix Y. Manalo as his divine credential base on the pattern of God, to distinguish the true preacher sent by God. The same testimonies or written prophecies for John the Baptist, Lord Jesus and the Apostles.
11. Calling a bird of prey from the far east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.
The bird of pray is a man from the far east from a far country; executing the counsel of the Lord God Take note: The man is from the far east, from a far country.
12. “Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted, Who are far from righteousness:
The bird of pray is carrying the messages of the Lord God to the people whose heart is stubborn and far the righteousness (gospel); The mission of the bird of pray is to preach the gospel, as what God, said “LISTEN”. corresponding to the Romans 10:14-15, 17 KJV
13. I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off; My salvation shall not linger. And I will place salvation in Zion, For Israel My glory. (James Moffat Version)
Through the instrumentality of the bird of pray, the Lord God, shall bring his righteousness to them, the preaching of the gospel is not too long and the salvation of the Sion (church) shall be in place for the Israel (representing the new Israel, the Church of Christ)
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2013,17:10) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 07 2013,16:42) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,15:21) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 06 2013,14:37) What is your understanding with the Bible passages concerning the Matthew 18:20?
… Do you mean any two or three group of persons gathering in the name of Christ Jesus, was acceptable with God?
Hi limjunus,Do you think what you or your group says establishes anything?
We gather together so that in the mouth of two or three
witnesses every word of God may be established.
God's word is established by hearing it!God bless
Ed J
Dear Ed J,I have no problem about it.
Hi linjunus,You may come to realize once again I'm your brother;
NOT AN OUTSIDER, outside of the body of Christ.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,Quote You may come to realize once again I'm your brother;
NOT AN OUTSIDER, outside of the body of Christ.If you really not an outsider of the Church Of Christ, then you must have the same belief with us and must be under by the over all administration placed by God, inside the Church and must be obedience to the leader/s appointed by God, inside the circle of God's chosen nation.
Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. Hebrews 13:17 21st KJV.
There must be not two separate group or other church. but only one church or one organization in unity in doctrines and only one administration. As what it was written in Eph. 4:3-6 21st KJV.
3. endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
5. one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
What spirit we had, what God, we have, what church we had, what faith we had and what baptism we had, you must have the same what we have; then you are one of us.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2013,17:14) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 07 2013,16:50) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,15:26) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,15:21) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 06 2013,14:37) What is your understanding with the Bible passages concerning the Matthew 18:20?
… Do you mean any two or three group of persons gathering in the name of Christ Jesus, was acceptable with God?
Hi limjunus,Do you think what you or your group says establishes anything?
We gather together so that in the mouth of two or three
witnesses every word of God may be established.
God's word is established by hearing it!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
…and by hearing it explained in different ways through a plethra of examples.
Dear Ed J,Quote …and by hearing it explained in different ways through a plethra of examples. That's your own opinion buy mine is not by mere opinion a human being but by God's will.
What is the God's will? Here it is,
14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15. And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
17. So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. [hearing from the preacher sent by God]
To know the true preacher sent by God, must be accompany by the written prophecies for them. Isaiah 8:20 KJV.
Hi linjunus,God's not going to punish all those you call outsiders; Isaiah 8:20 doesn't say that.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote God's not going to punish all those you call outsiders; Isaiah 8:20 doesn't say that. You can not read it with Isaiah 8:20 but you can read it with 1 Cor. 5:12-13 NLV.
11 What I wrote was that you should not keep on being with a person who calls himself a Christian if he does any kind of sex sins. You should not even eat with a person who says he is a Christian but always wants to get more of everything or uses bad language or who gets drunk or gets things in a wrong way.
12 It is not for me to judge those outside the church. You are to judge those who belong to the church.
13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.
In verse 13, very clear the messages: God, will judge those people outside the church of Christ, “the outsiders'
Hi linjunus,
God did not place you or your group to rule over me either;
so suggesting such nonsense is clearly a delusion on your part.Ephesians 4:3-6 does not support your fabricated claim either.
Quote There must be not two separate group or other church. but only one church or one organization in unity in doctrines and only one administration.
Eph 4:3-6 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTO ALL:
13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
The true church of Christ is following the commandment of the Lord God, regarding the “expulsion” of the sinners from the church, so that they could be among the outsiders that God shall be judge.
The sinners are those members of the Church of Christ, after so many advice and counselling but still not changing the way of their life into a true christian living, they must be expelled.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,15:55) TO ALL: 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,15:55) Hi linjunus, God did not place you or your group to rule over me either;
so suggesting such nonsense is clearly a delusion on your part.Ephesians 4:3-6 does not support your fabricated claim either.
Quote There must be not two separate group or other church. but only one church or one organization in unity in doctrines and only one administration.
Eph 4:3-6 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote God did not place you or your group to rule over me either;
so suggesting such nonsense is clearly a delusion on your part.Ephesians 4:3-6 does not support your fabricated claim either.
Fabricated claim? It was written and I am wondering why you could not see it?
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph 4:3-6“THERE IS ONE BODY (Church) and one SPIRIT (one doctrines), one faith and one baptism; keeping the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace (in Christ's church)
YOU DID NOT READ IT “THERE IS ONE BODY” It did not say bodies but body, mean one church; the church is the body of Christ; one Lord, means one head (head is commander of the body). One God, the Father of all.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,15:59) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,15:55) TO ALL: 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)[/QUOTE]
Is the New Living Version is not a Bible? There are plenty of Bible versions in this world and we must find which one is the telling the truth of God.
God, permitted the word “outsiders” to be written so that there is a different between insiders and the outsiders. Outsiders are the people not belong to God.
Do not blaming me. I am just reading what it was written in the Bible.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) Dear Ed J, Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph 4:3-6
Hi linjunus,Yes, but what does that have to do with your group?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) one SPIRIT (one doctrines)
Hi linjunus,That's not what “Spirit” means?
Back to the drawing board.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:29) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,15:59) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,15:55) TO ALL: 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)[/QUOTE]
Is the New Living Version is not a Bible? There are plenty of Bible versions in this world and we must find which one is the telling the truth of God.
God, permitted the word “outsiders” to be written so that there is a different between insiders and the outsiders. Outsiders are the people not belong to God.
Do not blaming me. I am just reading what it was written in the Bible.
Hi linjunus,I'm not blaming you for not discerning God's word.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,16:40) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) Dear Ed J, Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph 4:3-6
Hi linjunus,Yes, but what does that have to do with your group?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Dd J,It means to our group …. “a unity in all in what we have believes.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,16:41) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) one SPIRIT (one doctrines)
Hi linjunus,That's not what “Spirit” means?
Back to the drawing board.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,Yes, one Spirit not the doctrines it should be “one faith. Spirit means Spirit of Christ.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,16:44) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:29) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,15:59) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,15:55) TO ALL: 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
Hi linjunus,I realize you would like “The Bible” to say that, but it clearly does NOT!
“But them that are without God judgeth.” (1 Cor 5:13)
Is the New Living Version is not a Bible? There are plenty of Bible versions in this world and we must find which one is the telling the truth of God.
God, permitted the word “outsiders” to be written so that there is a different between insiders and the outsiders. Outsiders are the people not belong to God.
Do not blaming me. I am just reading what it was written in the Bible.[/quote]
Hi linjunus,I'm not blaming you for not discerning God's word.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,That's your own opinion.
But the Sacred Scriptures is not an opinion. It is the fundation of what we have believes on.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:49) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,16:40) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) Dear Ed J, Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph 4:3-6
Hi linjunus,Yes, but what does that have to do with your group?
God bless
Ed J
Dear Dd J,It means to our group …. “a unity in all in what we have believes.
Hi linjunus,All of Christ's body believes that Jesus died
for our sins and will resurrect us the last day.
Is that not unity? (<– Please answer)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDear ED J,
Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. Hebrews 13:17 21st KJV.
There must be one administration that we should be accountable, because they are the one looking after our souls. Let them do their jobs with joy and not with grief for it is not good for us.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:59) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,16:41) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) one SPIRIT (one doctrines)
Hi linjunus,That's not what “Spirit” means?
Back to the drawing board.God bless
Ed J
Dear ED J,(1)Yes, one Spirit not the doctrines it should be “one faith. (2)Spirit means Spirit of Christ.
Hi linjunus,1) Thank you for admitting your mistake!
2) NO, “one Spirit” means Holy Spirit,
which is the spirit of Christ's (Jesus') father.“Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected
us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be
in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? (Heb 12:9)Who is the father of spirits Limjunnus? Jesus or Jesus' Father?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:04) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:49) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,16:40) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,16:07) Dear Ed J, Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One
LORD, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph 4:3-6
Hi linjunus,Yes, but what does that have to do with your group?
God bless
Ed J
Dear Dd J,It means to our group …. “a unity in all in what we have believes.
Hi linjunus,All of Christ's body believes that Jesus died
for our sins and will resurrect us the last day.
Is that not unity? (<– Please answer)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I have no problem about it.
The problem is, “you must not belong to the so called by the Bible “outsiders”. It means, you are not part of the body of Christ.
Every one professing christian was believing that the Lord Jesus Christ died, but not everyone believing that he died for his church. The salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ is open to everyone in this world but it is accompany by the rules and regulations; one of the regulation among the rules is to be part of his body and be members in particular. 1 Cor. 12:27.
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