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  • #352585
    limjunus
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terraricca,

    It is your sole opinion and I could not do anything about it, except tp pray for you.

    #352586
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,15:50)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.

    #352587
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 11 2012,19:39)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,14:54)

    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 06 2012,19:15)
    limjunus is posting non sense.

    manalo is not a preacher of GOD. he is a deceiver.
    in your dreams limjunus lOL


    Dear Jammin,

    I do not to make any further argument with you.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    iglesia ni cristo ni manalo believes that in order to be saved, you must enter the church.

    no verse for that boy. this proves that this organization is really a cult


    Dear Jammin,

    Can you us here that outside the church of Christ there is salvation?

    #352588
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 14 2012,20:58)

    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 11 2012,19:39)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,14:54)

    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 06 2012,19:15)
    limjunus is posting non sense.

    manalo is not a preacher of GOD. he is a deceiver.
    in your dreams limjunus lOL


    Dear Jammin,

    I do not to make any further argument with you.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    iglesia ni cristo ni manalo believes that in order to be saved, you must enter the church.

    no verse for that boy. this proves that this organization is really a cult


    Dear Jammin,

    Can you us here that outside the church of Christ there is salvation?


    Dear Jammin,

    Can you show here that outside the church of Christ nowadays (Christian era) there is salvation?

    #352589
    limjunus
    Participant

    Jesus Christ, said. “WHOEVER ENTER TO THE FOLD THROUGH ME, SHALL BE SAVED…” The fold is the church of Christ (Acts 20:28 G. Lamsa & British Version)

    If you are right Jammin, by telling that salvation could be obtained outside the church of Christ, why he said “whoever enter to the fold through me shall be saved…”???

    #352590
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 14 2012,15:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terraricca,

    It is your sole opinion and I could not do anything about it, except tp pray for you.


    it may help you to see your errors

    #352591
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 14 2012,15:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,15:50)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.


    limj

    you do not respect scriptures ,I have shown you and you have ignored the words of Christ for your messenger who his a nobody and as no truth sins those who represent him also deny the scriptures ,so you are on the deceivers side

    #352592
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 15 2012,08:54)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 14 2012,15:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,15:50)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.


    limj

    you do not respect scriptures ,I have shown you and you have ignored the words of Christ for your messenger who his a nobody and as no truth sins those who represent him also deny the scriptures ,so you are on the deceivers side


    Dear Terraricca,

    Now, you are spoken just come from your own “language” (your own ideas and not the plain words of God).

    Listen to what our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus said about it.

    44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
    (John 8:44 KJV)

    Terraricca you must speaketh the words of God, and you must not says your's alone.

    #352593
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 14 2012,20:58)

    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 11 2012,19:39)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,14:54)

    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 06 2012,19:15)
    limjunus is posting non sense.

    manalo is not a preacher of GOD. he is a deceiver.
    in your dreams limjunus lOL


    Dear Jammin,

    I do not to make any further argument with you.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    iglesia ni cristo ni manalo believes that in order to be saved, you must enter the church.

    no verse for that boy. this proves that this organization is really a cult


    Dear Jammin,

    Can you us here that outside the church of Christ there is salvation?


    im asking you for a verse. give me the verse boy. i know there is no single verse for manalo's imagination LOL

    #352594
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 19 2012,09:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 15 2012,08:54)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 14 2012,15:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,15:50)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.


    limj

    you do not respect scriptures ,I have shown you and you have ignored the words of Christ for your messenger who his a nobody and as no truth sins those who represent him also deny the scriptures ,so you are on the deceivers side


    Dear Terraricca,

    Now, you are spoken just come from your own “language” (your own ideas and not the plain words of God).

    Listen to what our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus said about it.

    44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
     (John 8:44 KJV)

    Terraricca you must speaketh the words of God, and you must not says your's alone.


    lmj

    ECC 12:11 The words of wise men are like goads, and masters of these collections are like well-driven nails; they are given by one Shepherd.
    EZE 34:23 “Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David, and he will feed them; he will feed them himself and be their shepherd.
    EZE 37:24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd; and they will walk in My ordinances and keep My statutes and observe them.
    JN 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shep
    herd.

    see those scriptures ONE SHEPHERS not two not three just one and it is his words and voice that any true believer has to follow ;follow any other one would also modified the end .

    1TI 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

    now see what scriptures are saying ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN LOOK AT THE NAME “CHRIST JESUS ” IS THAT THE NAME OF YOUR PREACHER ???? IF NOT HE IS A FAKE .

    1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    1Jn 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
    1Jn 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
    1Jn 4:4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
    1Jn 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    DO YOU KNOW WHO JOHN MENTION AS “US” LAST WORD OF 1JHN 4;6 ;….DO YOU SEE TO WHOM WE HAVE TO LISTEN IF WE ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST ??? READ IT AGAIN;;We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    IT IS NOW OBVIOUS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THE WAY OF TRUTH WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURES ,SO THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU .

    #352595
    terraricca
    Participant

    lmj

    Lk 1:69 He has raised up a horn of salvation for us
    in the house of his servant David
    Lk 1:71 salvation from our enemies
    and from the hand of all who hate us—
    Lk 1:77 to give his people the knowledge of salvation
    through the forgiveness of their sins,
    Lk 2:30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
    Lk 3:6 And all mankind will see God’s salvation.’ ”
    Lk 19:9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Ac 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
    Ac 13:26 “Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.
    Ac 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
    “ ‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles,
    that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’’”
    Ac 28:28 “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”

    read the last line ,and the ones that have been send ad all but one GOSPEL THE ONE OF THEIR SHEPHERD CHRIST JESUS , ….WAKE UP ,YOUR CHURCH AND PREACHER ARE FAKE ONES ,IMPOSTORS ,

    #352596
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2012,15:14)
    lmj

    Lk 1:69 He has raised up a horn of salvation for us
    in the house of his servant David
    Lk 1:71 salvation from our enemies
    and from the hand of all who hate us—
    Lk 1:77 to give his people the knowledge of salvation
    through the forgiveness of their sins,
    Lk 2:30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
    Lk 3:6 And all mankind will see God’s salvation.’ ”
    Lk 19:9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Ac 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
    Ac 13:26 “Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.
    Ac 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
    “ ‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles,
    that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’’”
    Ac 28:28 “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”

    read the last line ,and the ones that have been send ad all but one GOSPEL THE ONE OF THEIR SHEPHERD CHRIST JESUS , ….WAKE UP ,YOUR CHURCH AND PREACHER ARE FAKE ONES ,IMPOSTORS ,


    Dear Terraricca,

    Ac 28:28 “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”

    Who are the Gentiles? … the answer is, those people not belong to the Israel (Jews).

    The Gentiles will listen! meaning there is a preacher sent by God. (Romans 10:14-15, 17 KJV).

    Terraricca, you can not just drop your conclusion that our church is fake or impostor. You need to be prove it without reasonable doubt. Bring the verses from the Bible to prove that our church and our preachers are truly fake.

    We the church of Christ in these latter day were believing that Jesus Christ is not only just our Shepherd, but our Lord and Savior made by God, his Father.

    #352597
    limjunus
    Participant

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    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.


    limj

    you do not respect scriptures ,I have shown you and you have ignored the words of Christ for your messenger who his a nobody and as no truth sins those who represent him also deny the scriptures ,so you are on the deceivers side


    Dear Terraricca,

    Now, you are spoken just come from your own “language” (your own ideas and not the plain words of God).

    Listen to what our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus said about it.

    44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
     (John 8:44 KJV)

    Terraricca you must speaketh the words of God, and you must not says your's alone.


    lmj

    ECC 12:11 The words of wise men are like goads, and masters of these collections are like well-driven nails; they are given by one Shepherd.
    EZE 34:23 “Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David, and he will feed them; he will feed them himself and be their shepherd.
    EZE 37:24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd; and they will walk in My ordinances an
    d keep My statutes and observe them.
    JN 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.

    see those scriptures ONE SHEPHERS not two not three just one and it is his words and voice that any true believer has to follow ;follow any other one would also modified the end .

    1TI 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

    now see what scriptures are saying ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN LOOK AT THE NAME  “CHRIST JESUS ” IS THAT THE NAME OF YOUR PREACHER ???? IF NOT HE IS A FAKE .

    1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    1Jn 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
    1Jn 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
    1Jn 4:4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
    1Jn 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    DO YOU KNOW WHO JOHN MENTION AS “US” LAST WORD OF 1JHN 4;6 ;….DO YOU SEE TO WHOM WE HAVE TO LISTEN IF WE ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST ??? READ IT AGAIN;;We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    IT IS NOW OBVIOUS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THE WAY OF TRUTH WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURES ,SO THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU .


    Dear Terrraricca,

    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;.

    Whose apostles are you talking about in these last days? They were all gone and Christ Jesus is in heaven sitting at the right of God.

    Jesus is the one spoken; “… John 10:16 Expanded Bible (EXB)

    16. I have other sheep that are not in this ·flock [fold; pen; C a reference to future Gentile followers of Christ], and I must bring them also. They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

    John 10:16 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
    16 I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future there will be one flock and one shepherd.[a]

    Footnotes:
    John 10:16 I have other sheep … shepherd Jesus means he has followers who are not Jews. See Jn. 11:52.

    The 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized (empty of the true followers & the truth of God has been changed by perverse things). The reason why Christ Jesus prophesied the restoration of his church in the future (1914).

    May the lord God, give you clear understanding about it.

    #352598
    terraricca
    Participant

    lmj

    Quote
    Dear Terrraricca,

    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;.

    Whose apostles are you talking about in these last days? They were all gone and Christ Jesus is in heaven sitting at the right of God.

    Jesus is the one spoken; “… John 10:16 Expanded Bible (EXB)

    16. I have other sheep that are not in this ·flock [fold; pen; C a reference to future Gentile followers of Christ], and I must bring them also. They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

    John 10:16 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
    16 I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future there will be one flock and one shepherd.[a]

    Footnotes:
    John 10:16 I have other sheep … shepherd Jesus means he has followers who are not Jews. See Jn. 11:52.

    The 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized (empty of the true followers & the truth of God has been changed by perverse things). The reason why Christ Jesus prophesied the restoration of his church in the future (1914).

    May the lord God, give you clear understanding about it.

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
    Jn 17:22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one:

    3Jn 1:3 It gave me great joy to have some brothers come and tell about your faithfulness to the truth and how you continue to walk in the truth.
    3Jn 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth

    To the chosen lady and her children, whom I love in the truth—and not I only, but also all who know the truth—
    2Jn 1:2 because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

    2Jn 1:4 It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us.

    2Jn 1:9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
    2Jn 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

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    The 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized (empty of the true followers & the truth of God has been changed by perverse things). The reason why Christ Jesus prophesied the restoration of his church in the future (1914).

    as Gods message changed after the dead of the apostles ??? if yes ,show me

    #352599
    jammin
    Participant

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    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.


    limj

    you do not respect scriptures ,I have shown you and you have ignored the words of Christ for your messenger who his a nobody and as no truth sins those who represent him also deny the scriptures ,so you are on the deceivers side


    Dear Terraricca,

    Now, you are spoken just come from your own “language” (your own ideas and not the plain words of God).

    Listen to what our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus said about it.

    44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
     (John 8:44 KJV)

    Terraricca you must speaketh the words of God, and you must not says your's alone.


    lmj

    ECC 12:11 The words of wise men are like goads, and masters of these collections are like well-driven nails; they are given by one Shepherd.
    EZE 34:23 “Then I will set over them one shepherd, M
    y servant David, and he will feed them; he will feed them himself and be their shepherd.
    EZE 37:24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd; and they will walk in My ordinances and keep My statutes and observe them.
    JN 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.

    see those scriptures ONE SHEPHERS not two not three just one and it is his words and voice that any true believer has to follow ;follow any other one would also modified the end .

    1TI 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

    now see what scriptures are saying ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN LOOK AT THE NAME  “CHRIST JESUS ” IS THAT THE NAME OF YOUR PREACHER ???? IF NOT HE IS A FAKE .

    1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    1Jn 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
    1Jn 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
    1Jn 4:4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
    1Jn 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    DO YOU KNOW WHO JOHN MENTION AS “US” LAST WORD OF 1JHN 4;6 ;….DO YOU SEE TO WHOM WE HAVE TO LISTEN IF WE ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST ??? READ IT AGAIN;;We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    IT IS NOW OBVIOUS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THE WAY OF TRUTH WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURES ,SO THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU .


    Dear Terrraricca,

    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;.

    Whose apostles are you talking about in these last days? They were all gone and Christ Jesus is in heaven sitting at the right of God.

    Jesus is the one spoken; “… John 10:16 Expanded Bible (EXB)

    16. I have other sheep that are not in this ·flock [fold; pen; C a reference to future Gentile followers of Christ], and I must bring them also. They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

    John 10:16 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
    16 I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future there will be one flock and one shepherd.[a]

    Footnotes:
    John 10:16 I have other sheep … shepherd Jesus means he has followers who are not Jews. See Jn. 11:52.

    The 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized (empty of the true followers & the truth of God has been changed by perverse things). The reason why Christ Jesus prophesied the restoration of his church in the future (1914).

    May the lord God, give you clear understanding about it.


    manalo is not an apostle. you claim that manalo is the bird of prey in IS46.11

    GOD did not put bird of prey in his church. GOD has placed first of all apostles. 1 cor 12.28 not a bird of prey boy LOL

    that bird of prey in IS46.11 is not manalo. the verse talks about king cyrus

    make your own bible and put the name of manalo in IS46.11 LOL
    so that you can support your imagination LOL

    #351622
    limjunus
    Participant

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    Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01)
    Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?


    Dear David,

    Yes.  Many differences.

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)

    Amen.


    lmj

    those are the biggest lies a man can preach;

    this his the true church;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times


    Dear Terrarica,

    Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/

    What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.


    lmj

    you are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,

    you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,

    yes you betray Christ and the truth of God


    Dear Terrarica,

    We do not need here a plain words from men like you.

    Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called  a preacher of the words of God.

    I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/


    lmj

    are you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith


    Dear Terraricca,

    With all my posts, you can find if I am posting phrases that's purely came from my own. We the church of Christ has a big respect to the Holy Scriptures and it is the bases of our beliefs.


    limj

    you do not respect scriptures ,I have shown you and you have ignored the words of Christ for your messenger who his a nobody and as no truth sins those who represent him also deny the scriptures ,so you are on the deceivers side


    Dear Terraricca,

    Now, you are spoken just come from your own “language” (your own ideas and not the plain words of God).

    Listen to what our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus said about it.

    44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
     (John 8:44 KJV)

    Terraricca you must speaketh the words of God, and you must not says your's alone.


    lmj

    ECC 12:11 The words of wise men are like goads, and masters of these collections are like well-driven nails; they are given by one Shepherd.
    EZE 34:23 “Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David, and he will feed them; he will feed them himself and be their shepherd.
    EZE 37:24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd; and they will walk in My ordinances an
    d keep My statutes and observe them.
    JN 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.

    see those scriptures ONE SHEPHERS not two not three just one and it is his words and voice that any true believer has to follow ;follow any other one would also modified the end .

    1TI 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

    now see what scriptures are saying ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN LOOK AT THE NAME  “CHRIST JESUS ” IS THAT THE NAME OF YOUR PREACHER ???? IF NOT HE IS A FAKE .

    1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    1Jn 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
    1Jn 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
    1Jn 4:4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
    1Jn 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
    1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    DO YOU KNOW WHO JOHN MENTION AS “US” LAST WORD OF 1JHN 4;6 ;….DO YOU SEE TO WHOM WE HAVE TO LISTEN IF WE ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST ??? READ IT AGAIN;;We(THE APOSTLES) are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;

    IT IS NOW OBVIOUS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THE WAY OF TRUTH WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURES ,SO THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU .


    Dear Terrarica,

    How we could hear the words of God, from apostles, they were all gone?

    and the 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized. Atcs. 20:29-30 NKJV)

    Christ Jesus already told long time ago that there will be a church in the future..” (John 10:16 ERV)

    Find the church foretold by our Lord and Savior and join.

    #351632
    terraricca
    Participant

    Limj

    Do you know that if it was not for the scriptures your church would never come to existence ,

    And I would not have the power to understand them,but now the scriptures are here from God through his apostles and his son make sure that only those that are worty to him will called ,on an individual base,not in group churches like organized religion ,

    It seems to me you have not yet understood that we render account to Christ and to God ,not to men and his churches masquerade , God his spirit and we have to worship him in truth and spirit and by our actions,

    I have given you many scriptures but you are stuck on your religion dogma

    #351630
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2012,15:14)
    lmj

    Lk 1:69 He has raised up a horn of salvation for us
    in the house of his servant David
    Lk 1:71 salvation from our enemies
    and from the hand of all who hate us—
    Lk 1:77 to give his people the knowledge of salvation
    through the forgiveness of their sins,
    Lk 2:30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
    Lk 3:6 And all mankind will see God’s salvation.’ ”
    Lk 19:9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Ac 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
    Ac 13:26 “Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.
    Ac 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
    “ ‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles,
    that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’’”
    Ac 28:28 “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”

    read the last line ,and the ones that have been send ad all but one GOSPEL THE ONE OF THEIR SHEPHERD CHRIST JESUS , ….WAKE UP ,YOUR CHURCH AND PREACHER ARE FAKE ONES ,IMPOSTORS ,


    Dear Jammin,

    Ac 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
    “ ‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles,
    that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’’”
    Ac 28:28 “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”

    How we could listen to the apostles? They were all gone, and the 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized by their successors. (Acts 20:29-30 NKJV).

    Our Lord and Savior foretold long time ago in his ministry that there shall be one flock (church) in the future and one shepherd . He knows in the first place what will be happened with his 1st century church and he is the one given the instruction to apostle Paul about the written prophecies in Acts 20:29-30.

    The Lord and Savior foretold:

    John 10:16
    Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
    16 I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future there will be one flock and one shepherd.[a]

    Footnotes:
    John 10:16 I have other sheep … shepherd Jesus means he has followers who are not Jews. See Jn. 11:52.

    If the first century church of Christ would not be apostatized, Christ Jesus shall not prophesied that there will be “another” church of Christ in the future. But the truth is, the 1st century church of Christ will not be preached and shall not be introduced to the whole world, instead the successors of the apostles shall be brought out a very different church, including it's different doctrines compare to the church built by our Lord Christ Jesus.

    Check it out by yourself with an open minded without self preservation; check the doctrines of the Catholic Roman Church and compare it with the Biblical teaching of the apostles and Christ Jesus teachings.

    Here is one among the very doctrines of Christ Jesus.

    Matthew 23:9 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
    9 And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven.

    John 17:25 (GW)
    25 Righteous Father, the world didn’t know you. Yet, I knew you, and these disciples have known that you sent me.

    The Father in heaven is the only “Holy Father”. … and Christ Jesus forbid us to call anyone here on earth a “HOLY FATHER”..

    The supreme Father of the Catholic Roman Church is called THE “HOLY FATHER”.

    #351629
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,16:30)
    Limj

    Do you know that if it was not for the scriptures your church would never come to existence ,

    And I would not have the power to understand them,but now the scriptures are here from God through his apostles and his son make sure that only those that are worty to him will called ,on an individual base,not in group churches like organized religion ,

    It seems to me you have not yet understood that we render account to Christ and to God ,not to men and his churches masquerade , God his spirit and we have to worship him in truth and spirit and by our actions,

    I have given you many scriptures but you are stuck on your religion dogma


    Dear Terraricca,

    Here the clear man made doctrine/teaching; from the mind of Ms. Teraricca: And I would not have the power to understand them,but now the scriptures are here from God through his apostles and his son make sure that only those that are worhty to him will called ,on an individual base,not in group churches like organized religion ,. The Scriptural foundation has nothing to do with Ms. Terraricca understanding and statement concerning the gospel of Christ.

    Compare Ms. Terraricca statements with the apostles statements.

    12that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    The Lord God, shall call us through the preaching and listening to the gospel so that we could obtain the glory of our Lord Christ Jesus.

    The Lord, shall bring the people to the church for the salvation of their souls.

    Acts 2:47
    21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
    47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    1 Corinthians 5:13 New Life Version (NLV)
    13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.

    Ms. Terraricca statements is very much different compare to the gospel of Christ. She want the people to believe that the church built by Christ is not very essential for the salvation of our souls. She is ignoring the commandment of Christ that we must enter to the flock through Jesus Christ. (John 10:9TEV).

    Ms. Terraricca, you are in a contrast against the truth of God.

    #351625
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 27 2012,12:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,16:30)
    Limj

    Do you know that if it was not for the scriptures your church would never come to existence ,

    And I would not have the power to understand them,but now the scriptures are here from God through his apostles and his son make sure that only those that are worty to him will called ,on an individual base,not in group churches like organized religion ,

    It seems to me you have not yet understood that we render account to Christ and to God ,not to men and his churches masquerade , God his spirit and we have to worship him in truth and spirit and by our actions,

    I have given you many scriptures but you are stuck on your religion dogma


    Dear Terraricca,

    Here the clear man made doctrine/teaching; from the mind of Ms. Teraricca: And I would not have the power to understand them,but now the scriptures are here from God through his apostles and his son make sure that only those that are worhty to him will called ,on an individual base,not in group churches like organized religion ,.    The Scriptural foundation has nothing to do with Ms. Terraricca understanding and statement concerning the gospel of Christ.

    Compare Ms. Terraricca statements with the apostles statements.

    12that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    The Lord God, shall call us through the preaching and listening to the gospel so that we could obtain the glory of our Lord Christ Jesus.

    The Lord, shall bring the people to the church for the salvation of their souls.

    Acts 2:47
    21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
    47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    1 Corinthians 5:13 New Life Version (NLV)
    13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.

    Ms. Terraricca statements is very much different compare to the gospel of Christ.   She want the people to believe that  the church built by Christ is not very essential for the salvation of our souls.  She is ignoring the commandment of Christ that we must enter to the flock through Jesus Christ. (John 10:9TEV).

    Ms. Terraricca, you are in a contrast against the truth of God.


    :D :D :D

    do you think I am that naive ???

    Quote
    1)The Lord God, shall call us through the preaching and listening to the gospel so that we could obtain the glory of our Lord Christ Jesus.

    2)The Lord, shall bring the people to the church for the salvation of their souls.

    1)who is calling us ???not your church or your preacher

    2)where is that in scriptures ???I mean “TO THE CHURCH FOR SALVATION”

    3) I have shown you that the time for worshing in close buildings is over ,Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

    only the scriptures are sufficient

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