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Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 30 2012,15:58) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,17:30) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 28 2012,16:21) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:36) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31) Dear Ed J. Better to specify it here.
The “Textus Receptus” is the “Authorized Greek Scriptures”!The “Masoretic Text” is the “Authorized Hebrew Scriptures”!
The “AKJV Bible” is the “Authorized English Scriptures”!
Dear Ed J,The Bible said, the authorized preachers of the words of God, is the authentic preachers sent by Him and not the Books.
Hi linjunus,Where does the Iglesia ni Cristo get their information from, if not from “The Bible”?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,As we have aware, there are plenty of books (Bible versions) made by men. Most of the Christian religious groups have made their own versions; translating with their own motives to suit their own doctrines; without knowing that there were used by the number one enemy of God.
God, know's how to counter Satan's deeds; by making His own decrees; one of the decree of God is to set the guideline; how to distinguish the true preachers and the false preachers;Those so called preachers, spoke not according to the testimony and the law are not the true preachers of the words of God. (Isaiah 8:20); Only the preacher sent by God, can preach the gospel of Christ Jesus; (Romans 10:14-5, 17 NKJV);
God knows where in many Bible translation/ versions can be found His real words; God, shall guide the true preachers in teaching the true messages of God.
The original Sacred Scriptures and all the Bible versions would be useless without the teaching and explanation by the preacher sent by God. Here is the testimony of the Sacred Scriptures:
[/B]29. Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30. And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31. And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32. The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33. In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35. Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37. And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
.Philipp is one among the true preachers sent by God, is the one guided and explained the messages written in the Holy Scriptures to a person has been called by God.
Therefore, the Scared Scriptures or the Bibles in many versions, corrupted or not corrupted shall be useless without the true preacher sent by God.
Glory be to the merciful God, forever and ever.
Great, now will you answer my question?Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 30 2012,16:37) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 29 2012,19:42) limjunus, you are still not answering my questions
Dear Ed J,Do you mean the answer for no. 1, question?
There are many churches in this world and they hath been called after the name of Christ Jesus, right?
How do we recognized the true church of Christ among so many churches of Christ?
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, and he is not truly God.
Now, tell me Ed J, which one among so many called churches of Christ scattered around the world has the same doctrines as with us (Church of Christ 33-1914 A.D.)?
May all the glories goes into the merciful God and Father of our Lord Christ Jesus.
Amen.
im not edj boy LOLyou should take some vitamins LOL
my question is
why did manalo preach?
is he a messenger of God?Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 30 2012,16:37) Dear Ed J, The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, and he is not truly God.
Amen.
Hi linjunus, (abcde F&G)Thank you for providing us with (what you believe) a is the criteria list:
“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
That's what David asked you to provide back on page 14, when he first joined the thread.
Certainly now you have finally provided him with the criteria that he asked for – 78 pages back.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgthe true preacher of GOd is not also you eddy boy
you are part of the false teachers group. stop your illusion and believe what the bible says
TO ALL
[/B]The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01) Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?
Dear David,Yes. Many differences.
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25) Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01) Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?
Dear David,Yes. Many differences.
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
lmjthose are the biggest lies a man can preach;
this his the true church;
Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40) Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25) Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01) Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?
Dear David,Yes. Many differences.
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
lmjthose are the biggest lies a man can preach;
this his the true church;
Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times
Dear Terrarica,Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.
Quote (jammin @ Nov. 30 2012,19:33) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 30 2012,16:37) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 29 2012,19:42) limjunus, you are still not answering my questions
Dear Ed J,Do you mean the answer for no. 1, question?
There are many churches in this world and they hath been called after the name of Christ Jesus, right?
How do we recognized the true church of Christ among so many churches of Christ?
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, and he is not truly God.
Now, tell me Ed J, which one among so many called churches of Christ scattered around the world has the same doctrines as with us (Church of Christ 33-1914 A.D.)?
May all the glories goes into the merciful God and Father of our Lord Christ Jesus.
Amen.
im not edj boy LOLyou should take some vitamins LOL
my question is
why did manalo preach?
is he a messenger of God?
Dear Jammin,Just visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
All the information about the Church Of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo in Pilipino) with the website were all official and not just come out from my mind.
Good luck and may the merciful God, guided you.
TO ALL
Letter to the Editor:
PASUGO, December 1998, p.2I HAVE BEEN reading the Bible since I was 15 years old. But since then, I have never encountered even a single verse in the Old Testament or in the New Testament that mentions the name of Felix Y Manalo whom you regard to be God's messenger. The names of messengers like Moses, Elijah, David, and the rest of the prophets are a found in the Bible; and so are the names of John the Baptist, Angel Gabriel, and the 12 apostles of Jesus Christ—but not the name of Felix Y. Manalo. So, is he a true messenger of God?
Rafael Gonzaga
Pasay City, PhilippinesEditor's reply:
Inasmuch as the Old Testament is the written Record of God’s early People, it therefore is expected that the names of God’s messengers such as Moses, David, and Elijah are mentioned therein. However, there are other messengers whose authority and right to preach rest on the fulfillment of the prophecies about them. Among them are John the Baptist, The Lord Jesus Christ, the apostles, and the messenger of God in these last days.
It must be noticed that the Old Testament prophecies about the messengers whose works were fulfilled in New Testament times do not mention the names of the messengers concerned. For instance, the prophecy of Isaiah concerning the Lord Jesus Christ says:
“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, because the LORD has anointed Me to preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound; “to proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all who mourn.” (Is. 61:1-2, NKJV)
This prophecy, fulfilled in the Lord Jesus Christ (Lk. 4:16-21) does not mention His name.
16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” (Luke 4:16-21, NKJV)
John the Baptist has a prophecy from Isaiah to prove his commission, too:
“The voice of one crying in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of the Lord’.” (Is. 40:3, NKJV)
The fulfillment of this is John the Baptist (Jn. 1:19-23). Yet, the prophecy does not mention his name.
19 Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21 And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 Then they said to him, “Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?”
23 He said: “I am ‘The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
“Make straight the way of the Lord,”’
as the prophet Isaiah said.” (John 1:19-23, NKJV)The same is true for Apostle Paul who testified that he was the fulfillment of the “light to the Gentiles” in the book of Isaiah (Is. 49:6; Acts 13:46-47).
Indeed He says,
‘It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.’” (Isaiah 49:6, NKJV)The fulfillment of this is Apostle Paul (Acts 13:46-47). Yet, the prophecy does not mention his name.
46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles, That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’” (Acts 13:46-47, NKJV)
Should you further ask why the names of these messengers are found in the New Testament, it is because the New Testament was written at a later time when the Old Testaments prophecies on these messengers had already been fulfilled.
The commission and the work of Brother Felix Y. Manalo are likewise prophesied in the Old Testament and even in the New Testament. His name can never appear in the Old Testament and the New Testament because the fulfillment of his work was to take place at the ends of the earth, a period of time when both the Old and the New Testaments had already been completed.
Through Prophet Isaiah God said that He would call His servant who is likened to a ravenous bird, who would come from a far country in the East at the time ends of the earth, and who would execute His counsel (Is. 41:9-10; 46:11).
You whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
And called from its farthest regions,
And said to you,
‘You are My servant,
I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
10 Fear not, for I am with you;
Be not dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you,
Yes, I will help you,
I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.’ (Isaiah 41:9-10, NKJV) (emphasis ours)Calling a bird of prey from the east,
The man who executes My counsel, from a far country.
Indeed I have spoken it;
I will also bring it to pass.
I have purposed it;
I will also do it. (Isaiah 46:11, NKJV) (emphasis ours)The far country where this servant of God would emerge is in the Far East (Is. 43:5, Moffatt Translation), the fulfillment of which is the Philippines (Asia and the Philippines, p.169).
“From the far east will I bring your offspring, and from the far west I will gather you”
(Isaiah 43:5, James Moffatt Translation) (emphasis ours)As a historian and Jesuit Priest Horacio dela Costa wrote in his book Asia and the Philippines:
“It cannot be without significance that the country which stands almost at the geographical center of the Far East, the Philippines, should also be that in which Christianity has taken the deepest root.” (page.169)“Ends of the earth” refers to the time when the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ is near, its beginning signified by a world war (Mt. 24:3, 33, 6-7; Is. 34:1-2).
3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors!
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Mt. 24:3, 33, 6-7; Is. 34:1-2, NKJV). (emphasis ours)
In July 27, 1914, the First World War broke out (The Nations at War, p. 8). This was also the date the Iglesia Ni Cristo was registered by Brother Felix Y. Manalo with the Philippine government.
The works that Brother Felix Y. Manalo had performed are the very proofs of his commissioning as a messenger of God
Note: all emphasis ours.
Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40) Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25) Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01) Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?
Dear David,Yes. Many differences.
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
lmjthose are the biggest lies a man can preach;
this his the true church;
Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times
Dear Terrarica,Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.
lmjyou are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,
you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,
yes you betray Christ and the truth of God
limjunus is posting non sense.
manalo is not a preacher of GOD. he is a deceiver.
in your dreams limjunus lOLQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29) Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40) Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25) Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01) Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?
Dear David,Yes. Many differences.
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
lmjthose are the biggest lies a man can preach;
this his the true church;
Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times
Dear Terrarica,Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.
lmjyou are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,
you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,
yes you betray Christ and the truth of God
Dear Terrarica,We do not need here a plain words from men like you.
Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called a preacher of the words of God.
I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
Quote (jammin @ Dec. 06 2012,19:15) limjunus is posting non sense. manalo is not a preacher of GOD. he is a deceiver.
in your dreams limjunus lOL
Dear Jammin,I do not to make any further argument with you.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
TO ALL
I am just a plain member of the body of Christ; the branches of the plant by God.
For official and further inquiries. Visit this website:
http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
You can get the official teaching of the Church Of Christ (The spiritual body of Christ;thekingdom of God here on earth)
Be all the glories to the merciful and Almighty God, .. the God and Father of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.
NATURE OF THE ORGANIZATION:
CHRISTIAN
The Church of Christ adheres to the unadulterated teachings of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ written in the Bible. The faithful firmly believe that this Church is the fulfillment of biblical prophecies that the Church established by Christ would re-emerge in these last days for the salvation of humankind.INDEPENDENT
The Iglesia ni Cristo is not a denomination or sect. It is neither affiliated to any federation of religious bodies nor itself an assembly of smaller religious organizations. The Iglesia ni Cristo is Christ's one true Church today. The Iglesia ni Cristo is the largest independent Christian Church in Asia. Due to a number of similarities, some Protestant writers describe the INC's doctrines as restorationist in outlook and theme. INC, however, does not formally consider itself to be part of the Restoration Movement.RELIGIOUS
The Church's major activities include worship service, missionary works, and edification.Worship service. This solemn gathering of the faithful is usually held on Thursdays and Sundays by every local congregation inside the house of worship. It consists of hymn singing, prayers, and study of God's words for proper applications in daily living.
Missionary Works. The members gladly fulfill their duty to share the faith. They invite all people to attend Bible study sessions and worship services. The Church also uses mass media in spreading its message of hope to a broader audience.
The Pasugo: God's Message, the monthly official magazine of the Church, carries mainly religious articles and Church news and features.
DZEM (954 kHz) broadcasts programs that discuss Bible teachings. These programs are aired by about 60 other radio stations all over the Philippines and several more in the US and Australia.
GEM TV-49, as well as major cable stations in the Philippines and some channels in the US, telecast the Church's religious programs featuring biblical teachings.
GEM TV is featured on DIRECT TV Channel 2068 and available internationally by subscribing to DIRECTV BASIC international package plus any WorldDirect Package such as TFCDirect, VietnameseDirect, Greek, Italian, Carribean, etc, which include GEM as a bonus channel.
Edification. For the spiritual welfare of the members, prayer meetings are held weekly by each group of neighboring households for further instructions in the faith and announcements about Church projects and activities.
Pastoral visitations to the brethren are conducted regularly by the Church officers for prayer and spiritual counseling.
Through its Christian family organizations (Buklod, KADIWA, and Binhi) the Church of Christ undertakes projects to strengthen the family, to guide the single members in right living and in proper conduct, and to assist the youth in their studies. The Buklod (bond) is the organization of married members. The KADIWA (acronym of a Filipino phrase meaning “Youth with a Noble Intent ) is for the single members 18 years and older, and the Binhi (seed) is composed of 13 to 17-year old members.
CORE VALUES:
BIBLE AS BASIS OF FAITH
The Iglesia ni Cristo regards the Holy Scriptures as the sole basis of its faith and practice. Some of its fundamental scriptural teachings are as follows:Absolute oneness of God the Father. The Church believes in the teaching of Christ and the apostles that the Father, the Creator, alone is the true God. (John 17:1, 3; I Cor. 8:6)
Jesus Christ the Son of God. The Iglesia ni Cristo believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God. God made Him Lord and Savior. He is the only Mediator of man to God. Jesus Christ is holy and a very special man but not God. (Matt. 3:17; Acts 2:36; 5:31; I Tim. 2:5; John 10:36; 8:40; Acts 2:22, Easy-to-Read Version)
The Church of Christ. The faithful firmly believe that the Church of Christ is the one Christ established for the salvation of mankind. It is for the Church that Christ gave His life and thus, it is this Church that He will save on Judgment Day. (Matt. 16:18; Acts 20:28 Lamsa Translation; Eph. 5:23, 25)
Judgment Day. The Church of Christ believes that God appointed a day when He will judge all people through Christ. This is the day of the Second Advent of Christ, which is also the end of the world. (.Acts 17:31; Jude 1:14-15; II Pet. 3:7, 10)
Baptism. The Iglesia m Cristo observes the biblical way of baptism, which is immersion in water. Receiving baptism in the Church of Christ is necessary for one to become a disciple of Christ, to be forgiven of sin, and to have hope for salvation, (Acts 8:38; John 3:23; Rom. 6:3-5; Matt. 28:19; Acts 2:38; Mark 16:15-16)
Resurrection. The resurrection of Christ is the main proof that the dead will rise. Those in Christ will rise first to be with Him forever in the Holy City. Those who are not of Christ will rise a thousand years after the first resurrection to be cast into the lake of fire. (I Cor. 15:12-13; I Thess. 4:16-17; Rev. 20:5-10; 21:1-4)
TO ALL CONCERN PEOPLE:
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Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,09:52) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2012,13:29) Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 06 2012,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2012,04:40) Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 03 2012,17:25) Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2012,18:01) Is there a difference between the church if Christ and the “Christian church”?
Dear David,Yes. Many differences.
The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:
a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God
c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures
d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.
e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus
f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;
g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, Christ Jesus is the son of God. (Acts. 9:20 /Acts 13:33 / Acts 8:37 KJV)
Amen.
lmjthose are the biggest lies a man can preach;
this his the true church;
Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”as far that I know you do not practice verse 24 so you are part of the deceivers of the end times
Dear Terrarica,Verse 24 is another topic to be discuss.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
What you had failed to show here in this thread is, the proofs of “the preacher of the words of God, sent by Him in your group.
lmjyou are denying Christ words and place your own understanding over his words ,
you are a fake and an deceiver ,their is nothing to discuss with deceiver and people that do not accept the word of God ,but do their own and so Lie's to the people that seek the truth ,
yes you betray Christ and the truth of God
Dear Terrarica,We do not need here a plain words from men like you.
Proofs from the Bible is the best evidences to refutes any claim by the so called a preacher of the words of God.
I had posts many proofs from the Bible that the so called preacher of the words of God must be sent by Him with the supporting prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
lmjare you blind ,I showed you scriptures and deny them and you call your preacher the true one ,think again he can not be falser than he his ,reject scriptures and their his no faith
Quote (limjunus @ Dec. 08 2012,14:54) Quote (jammin @ Dec. 06 2012,19:15) limjunus is posting non sense. manalo is not a preacher of GOD. he is a deceiver.
in your dreams limjunus lOL
Dear Jammin,I do not to make any further argument with you.
For more information you can visit this website: http://www.iglesianicristowebsite.com/
iglesia ni cristo ni manalo believes that in order to be saved, you must enter the church.no verse for that boy. this proves that this organization is really a cult
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