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Quote (david @ Nov. 10 2012,13:14) Limjunis, can you speak plainly? Can you plainly tell us what YOUR credentials are? I am not asking for a long confounded paragraph, but a simple explanation that a 5 year old could understand:
How do we know that YOU are from God? What are YOUR credentials? (No need to explain a process or start from the beginning. Start at the end and please, just tell us what you consider YOUR credentials to be.)
Thank you in advance.
Dear David,My “divine credential” is, I heard the words of God, from the genuine messenger/ preachers sent by God. I had been with them since I have believing for what the messages of God, has been commissioned to be speak by and through them..
I am sharing with you guys, the true gospel of Christ, that I had been heard from them (messengers of God).
Since and then I have my holy and noble obligation to my neighbors to share it with them … for my compliance to one of the commandments of the Lord. “LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS THE LOVE TO YOURSELF”.
November 10, 2012 at 8:01 am#352266terrariccaParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,12:46) 19. Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “WHO ARE YOU?” 20. He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21. And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22. Then they said to him, “WHO ARE YOU”, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT YOURSELF”What?” John the Baptist answered: 23. He said: “I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Make straight the way of the LORD,”' as the prophet Isaiah said.” (John 1:19-23 NKJV).
3The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God. Isaiah 40:3
The “divine credential of the true messenger/ preacher of God. … The prophesies (testimony) and the “law” (Isaiah 8:20) … the rules of law by God.
If any of the so called preachers nowadays speak (preaching) in behalf of God, without the divine credential, … we could clearly distinguish and we can easily figure out them, the false preachers. … 'been foretold by Christ Jesus and the Apostles.
RO 15:20 And thus I aspired to preach the gospel, not where Christ was already named, so that I would not build on another man’s foundation;
1CO 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it.November 10, 2012 at 8:06 am#352267limjunusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:30) Hi limjunus, Do you believe what the bible says?
Is this not in fact what you are doing here?“we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the
LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear David,What is your point?
You are just posting the part of the Sacred Scriptures without giving your point or it did not specify what argument of your's is supporting it.?
Be specific with your post, so that I can help in figuring out.
Peace be with you.
November 10, 2012 at 8:09 am#352268terrariccaParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,13:06) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:30) Hi limjunus, Do you believe what the bible says?
Is this not in fact what you are doing here?“we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the
LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear David,What is your point?
You are just posting the part of the Sacred Scriptures without giving your point or it did not specify what argument of your's is supporting it.?
Be specific with your post, so that I can help in figuring out.
Peace be with you.
that quote is from EDJ not DavidNovember 10, 2012 at 8:39 am#352269limjunusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2012,18:01) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,12:46) 19. Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “WHO ARE YOU?” 20. He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21. And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22. Then they said to him, “WHO ARE YOU”, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT YOURSELF”What?” John the Baptist answered: 23. He said: “I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Make straight the way of the LORD,”' as the prophet Isaiah said.” (John 1:19-23 NKJV).
3The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God. Isaiah 40:3
The “divine credential of the true messenger/ preacher of God. … The prophesies (testimony) and the “law” (Isaiah 8:20) … the rules of law by God.
If any of the so called preachers nowadays speak (preaching) in behalf of God, without the divine credential, … we could clearly distinguish and we can easily figure out them, the false preachers. … 'been foretold by Christ Jesus and the Apostles.
RO 15:20 And thus I aspired to preach the gospel, not where Christ was already named, so that I would not build on another man’s foundation;
1CO 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it.
Dear Terraricca,What is your point with that Bible messages?
“RO 15:20 And thus I aspired to preach the gospel, not where Christ was already named, so that I would not build on another man’s foundation;”
20 I always want to tell the Good News in places where people have never heard of Christ. I do this because I don’t want to build on the work that someone else has already started. Roman 15:20 ERV.
Terraricca, I know you have heard the name or the gospel of Christ by your own presumable conclusions but in reality, you did not heard it from the true preachers sent by God.
Read the verse 21: “21 But as the Scriptures say,
“Those who were not told about him will see, and those who have not heard about him will understand.”
The point is, going back to original pattern of God, in hearing the truth…. you need to be heard the gospel of Christ from the true preachers sent by God, and not by your own presumption alone and also not from the self proclaimed preachers of the words of God.
Here a part of your post:
“1CO 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds”
You did not also make a point about this verse. But anyway I will continue it for you to know the real point is?
10 Like an expert builder I built the foundation of that house. I used the gift that God gave me to do this. Other people are building on that foundation. But everyone should be careful how they build. 11 The foundation that has already been built is Jesus Christ, and no one can build any other foundation. (1 Cor. 3:10-11 ERV)
The messages is addressing the other builder of the church. The other Christian church was and still preaching to the people since the time of “apostasy” that their church foundation is the first Pope (Apostle Peter) and not Christ Jesus, then the successors of apostle Peter. They called him the Holy Pope.
The apostles, the believers of Christ, the administration, the evangelist and other functions has been placed inside the church of Christ. The foundation of their faith is Christ Jesus and before we could obtain the belief in Christ, we need to hear the gospel of Christ, because “faith comes from hearing the words of God, by and through the preachers sent by God.
I told you many times. We could not just set aside the messengers of God. … without the true preachers sent by God, who will teach us the truth of God? … except the preachers sent by God, there is no truth to be found with another preachers in this world.
Peace be with you.
November 10, 2012 at 8:51 am#352270limjunusParticipantTO ALL CONCERN PEOPLE:
I told you many times. We could not just set aside the messengers of God. … without the true preachers sent by God, who will teach us the truth of God? … except the preachers sent by God, and to the people whom the messages has been heard and been accepted, …there is no truth to be found with another self proclaimed preachers in this world.
Now, the spiritual knowledge from God, to distinguish the true preachers and to determine the false preachers has been revealed before you. It is the right time for you to accept and believe with the truth of God, and not to your self-proclaimed preachers but from the man has a divine link to the true messengers of God, nowadays..
November 10, 2012 at 9:01 am#352271limjunusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:38) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,17:12) Dera ED J, So, why not bring it here if you had the reliable Bible version?
If it is the truth, why you just keeping it with you?
Hi limjunus, (Link)Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,I have no problem with the quality of the words of God, and I have no problem also with another versions of the Bible.
My point is, with your AKJV …. did the Isaiah 8:20 and the Romans 10:14-15, 17 are not included?
Another point of mine is, is your preachers has the “divine credential” to preach the words of God? or they just proclaimed themselves “self appointed preachers?
November 10, 2012 at 9:04 am#352272limjunusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2012,18:09) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,13:06) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:30) Hi limjunus, Do you believe what the bible says?
Is this not in fact what you are doing here?“we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the
LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear David,What is your point?
You are just posting the part of the Sacred Scriptures without giving your point or it did not specify what argument of your's is supporting it.?
Be specific with your post, so that I can help in figuring out.
Peace be with you.
that quote is from EDJ not David
Dear Terraricca,Thanks for reminding me. Accidentally placing the name of David instead of Ed J.
Anyway we all know who is my addressing to?
November 10, 2012 at 9:07 am#352273limjunusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:36) Hi limjunus, Will you please vote and comment on my poll here. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I will go to the link and I must read the issue first before I could lay down my vote.
Thanks for inviting me.
November 10, 2012 at 9:28 am#352274Ed JParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,18:06) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:30) Hi limjunus, Do you believe what the bible says?
Is this not in fact what you are doing here?“we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the
LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear David,What is your point?
You are just posting the part of the Sacred Scriptures without giving your point or it did not specify what argument of your's is supporting it.?
Be specific with your post, so that I can help in figuring out.
Peace be with you.
I told you he's got us linked to together David, he keeps calling me you.November 10, 2012 at 9:29 am#352275limjunusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2012,17:44) lmj Quote Read it, it is not enough for you? . wen and were did I ever say that that was enough ?
Quote Do not branded me with your negatives thoughts. you are branding yourself ;you have quoted 5 or 6 scriptures all the rest of your speach is wind making dust,
Quote You really do not know the truth Terraricca. well I have about 16000 quotes in many topics even under my name (means I started )COULD YOU PICK ONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHOW ME HOW FAR FROM TRUTH THAT i AM
then we can look at your 700 and see what you realy saying of truth .
if you do not take this challenge you could always take your words back about me not knowing the truth of God ,
right now I have quoted more scriptures than you have quotes on this site.
Dear Terraricca,a.) My question is waiting for the proper answer and not another question from you.
b.) Prove your accusation on me and not by fast judgement of yours.
c.) You have missed the point. Even though you had made millions posts but you haven't the divine credential from God, you have no truth to be shared in this forum, but instead are darkness (Isaiah 8:20)
d.) I have 700 posts but it is not the number of posts we were discussing about. The point is, who shall be the true preachers is and who is the false preacher is according to the unique pattern of God, by distinguishing who's having the light?
d.) I was already been in the challenge mode since my beginning.
e.) I have told already, it is not how many we have post concerning the Sacred Scriptures. The real point here is “Who is the rightful preachers from God, the self proclaimed preachers or the one has the gifted divine credential as the true preachers before they could be born?
Do you still know what is the issue here in this thread Terraricca?
Please, do not dragging it away.
November 10, 2012 at 9:37 am#352276Ed JParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,18:06) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:30) Hi limjunus, Do you believe what the bible says?
Is this not in fact what you are doing here?“we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the
LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear David,What is your point?
You are just posting the part of the Sacred Scriptures without giving your point or it did not specify what argument of your's is supporting it.?
Be specific with your post, so that I can help in figuring out.
Peace be with you.
Here is a refresher course on YOUR words:Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47)
Dear Mr. Ed J,You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.
Got the point.
Peace.
November 10, 2012 at 9:39 am#352277Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2012,14:35) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,23:44) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,16:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,09:53) Hi David, Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
I would say these are two different things, what say you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us. Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.
God bless you.
Hi limjunus,Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
“he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:38) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,21:46) Hi limjunus, Many here still do not yet realize that we are in “The Day of The LORD”.
What you're describing is the burning up of the rudiments. Good post!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
Ed j,Yeah. Sharing the true knowledge about what the truth about the present day.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Mr. Ed J,You have missed the point again. I stop calling you my brother in Christ not because of John reporting to Jesus, but instead because you have asked me “who are my brothers in Christ, David, Ed J,?
Therefore, to avoid confusion, I decided not to call you my brother in Christ anymore.
You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.
Got the point.
Peace.
Hi limjunus,You have just proved my point, of why I made the comparison of you to Mark 9:38.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Here is another reminder for you.November 10, 2012 at 6:03 pm#352278davidParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,15:39) Quote (david @ Nov. 10 2012,12:53) Limjunis would like to add this one to the list: “The basic and the fundamental knowledge that we can be sure it came truly from God, is to hear or listen first His words from the preachers He hath been sent; Believed and be baptized, then the believers can do the commandments/laws of God.”
Dear David,What do you mean?
Sorry, meant to say: terrarica would like to add this one to the list.November 10, 2012 at 6:09 pm#352279davidParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,17:59) Quote (david @ Nov. 10 2012,13:14) Limjunis, can you speak plainly? Can you plainly tell us what YOUR credentials are? I am not asking for a long confounded paragraph, but a simple explanation that a 5 year old could understand:
How do we know that YOU are from God? What are YOUR credentials? (No need to explain a process or start from the beginning. Start at the end and please, just tell us what you consider YOUR credentials to be.)
Thank you in advance.
Dear David,My “divine credential” is, I heard the words of God, from the genuine messenger/ preachers sent by God. I had been with them since I have believing for what the messages of God, has been commissioned to be speak by and through them..
I am sharing with you guys, the true gospel of Christ, that I had been heard from them (messengers of God).
Since and then I have my holy and noble obligation to my neighbors to share it with them … for my compliance to one of the commandments of the Lord. “LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS THE LOVE TO YOURSELF”.
Limjunis, here is the Problem:What if I or someone else said the exact same thing?
“I heard the word of god from the true messengers…”
Anyone can say that. But my question is: how do you know THEY are the true messengers?
It seems the reason you say you are a true messenger of god is because you heard a message from THEM, who you say are true messengers.
So, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE THE TRUE MESSENGERS OF GOD?
If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.
How are the ones that told you the message different? Why are they true, while others are false?
November 10, 2012 at 6:10 pm#352280terrariccaParticipantlimj
Quote c.) You have missed the point. Even though you had made millions posts but you haven't the divine credential from God, you have no truth to be shared in this forum, but instead are darkness (Isaiah 8:20) you are a fake ,an impersonator, a liar by miss representing scriptures and take away Jesus Christ tittle of being THE TRUE MESSENGER THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE FATHER ,
in your quotes you prove all that ,you are a religion freek sold to the god of this world because you deny the son of God almighty Jehovah
November 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm#352281Ed JParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 11 2012,04:09) Limjunis, here is the Problem: What if I or someone else said the exact same thing?
“I heard the word of god from the true messengers…”
Anyone can say that. But my question is: how do you know THEY are the true messengers?
It seems the reason you say you are a true messenger of god is because you heard a message from THEM, who you say are true messengers.
So, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE THE TRUE MESSENGERS OF GOD?
If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.
How are the ones that told you the message different? Why are they true, while others are false?
Hi David,That is the question we are all waiting to here the answer to!!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 10, 2012 at 6:32 pm#352282davidParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,04:30) Quote (david @ Nov. 11 2012,04:09) Limjunis, here is the Problem: What if I or someone else said the exact same thing?
“I heard the word of god from the true messengers…”
Anyone can say that. But my question is: how do you know THEY are the true messengers?
It seems the reason you say you are a true messenger of god is because you heard a message from THEM, who you say are true messengers.
So, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE THE TRUE MESSENGERS OF GOD?
If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.
How are the ones that told you the message different? Why are they true, while others are false?
Hi David,That is the question we are all waiting to here the answer to!!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I have been working on getting the answer for a while. I think I am close.November 10, 2012 at 6:33 pm#352283Ed JParticipantNow we just got to hope he doesn't start calling you me.
November 10, 2012 at 6:38 pm#352284terrariccaParticipantlimj
Quote Do you still know what is the issue here in this thread Terraricca? YES ,I DO ;JN 15:1 “ I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser
MT 21:32 “For John came to you in the way of righteousness and you did not believe him; but the tax collectors and prostitutes did believe him; and you, seeing this, did not even feel remorse afterward so as to believe him.
MT 3:3 For this is the one referred to by Isaiah the prophet when he said,
“THE VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS,
‘MAKE READY THE WAY OF THE LORD,
MAKE HIS PATHS STRAIGHT!’MK 12:14 They *came and *said to Him, “Teacher, we know that You are truthful and defer to no one; for You are not partial to any, but teach the way of God in truth
LK 20:21 They questioned Him, saying, “Teacher, we know that You speak and teach correctly, and You are not partial to any, but teach the way of God in truth.
JN 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Rev 2:9 I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews(believers) and are not, but are a synagogue (Church)of Satan.
Rev 2:14 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: You have people there who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality.
Rev 2:18 “To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:
These are the words of the Son of God,(Jesus Christ)
Rev 2:27 ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter;
he will dash them to pieces like pottery’—just as I (Christ)have received authority from my Father.
Rev 2:28 I will also give him the morning star.
Rev 2:29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead.
Rev 3:2 Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God.Rev 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.(see the two words ;RECEIVED AND HEARD )
These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.
Rev 3:8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE WRONG MESSENGER ,YOUR MESSENGER HIS A SERVANT OF THE DEVIL
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