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HERE IS THE LINK of THE PREACHERS WITH D.I.D. (having divine identification or testimony of the prophesies).
http://www.incmedia.Go and find out.
Quote 10. “You are My witnesses,” says the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. . –lim
The places in your Bible where “LORD” appears capitalized is to signify that they have CHANGED that word, removing or hiding Gods name, and substituting it with “LORD.”
How can someone who is a MESSENGER OF GOD, not convey the accurate the basic truth that God has a personal name, one that he inspired to be recorded 7000 times in the Bible, and one which Gods enemies seek to hide, dishonour, and bring reproach on.
Limjunis, I noticed that people from the COC refer to god as “the Lord God.” My guess is, this is is because you use Bibles that dishonour Gods name by almost completely removing it.
There are in fact bibles that use “YAHWEH” or “Jehovah” instead of substituting “LORD” 7000 times.
My question is: why do you not understand that hiding Gods name puts you against God? How can we believe you represent God, as a Messenger of God, and yet, are hiding the fact that he even has a name?
I realize you would prefer to talk about how you are a true MESSENGER OF GOD, but how can. Believe that, if you constantly hide Gods name? (yes, it was not pronounced “Jehovah,” as you said. And neither was “Jesus” name pronounced “Jesus.”)
Question: what if I made a bible and took “Jesus” name out and replaced it with “Lord”? Or what if every time I see “Jesus” in scripture, I write “LORD” instead? Would you see this as highly problematic? if I said I am a Christian, and yet I hide Jesus' name, would you believe that I was a “Christian”?
So, my basic question is: why do you, a messenger of God, hide the fact that God has a name, by outing from a Bible that has almost completely removed at name?
David
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,16:19) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,11:11) Dear Terraricca, my friend. God communicated to the selected persons directly as what He had wish during the times of the Patriarch.
Our Creator, choose the persons according to His wishes and make them as His prophets during the time of the Prophets.
Since God, had appointed His own prophets, He begin to tell them to write His will through visions and dreams and instructed them to tell or read it before the nation of God (chosen people).
The main purposes of the messengers of God, celestial or human being is, to bring the news or the messages or words from God, to the concern people He wanted to be informed.
That pattern of God, in telling His messages to His people from the times of the prophet downward into our times has been implemented and has been preserved, honored and observed by God Himself.
Book of Roman 10:14-15, 17 and Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
God bless you.
LmjRo 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
Ro 10:18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:
“Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”
Ro 10:19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,
“I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding.”
Ro 10:20 And Isaiah boldly says,
“I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”
Ro 10:21 But concerning Israel he says,
“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”IT IS THE MESSAGE ,AND WITHIN THEIR HIS THE LIVING WORDS ,IF YOUR HEART IS NOT SET TO HEAR IT YOU WILL HEAR IT BUT IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR YOU,JUST AS IN JESUS TIME AND PREACHINGS
Dear Terraricca,Here is the link of other nation as the replacement of the former Nation. Go and finding it out:
Dear Terraricca,
These verse were true: “Ro 10:19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,
“I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding.”
Ro 10:20 And Isaiah boldly says,
“I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”
Ro 10:21 But concerning Israel he says,
“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”Here is the link of the new Nation of God, go and finding it out.
God bless you.
Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,06:05) Quote The preacher to be of the gospel of Christ, must be having the authentication, certification and truly sent by God, (through the divine identification duly and specially made by God). And how do we know someone is truly sent by God?
How do we know you are sent by God?
David.That is exactly it,where is that preacher that preach the truth?
How can we decern if a preacher is telling the truth?
We can tell by comparing his sermon with the scriptures.
As I have said; they have all gone astray.wakeup.
Quote
Is there preachers nowadays with the D.I.D.? Yes.Here is the D.I.D. Book of Isaiah 43:5-7, 10 J. Moffat.
5. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the far east, And gather you from the far west; 6. I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth.
Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth 7. Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
10. “You are My witnesses,” says the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. .
If this scripture is speaking of some sort of divine identification, I would say that I know of a group at also uses this scripture as identification.
” Everyone who is called by My name….”You are My witnesses,” says the LORD,”
If being a witness (someone who tells the truth about what they know) of “the LORD,” is divine identification, then I know of this other group, that also likes to preach a bit.
The thing that seem to differentiate you, is your intolerance of musical instruments. 🙂
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,11:51) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,16:12) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,11:10) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,15:46) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,10:19) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,02:34) it is not the preacher that his important IT IS THE MESSAGE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN THAT GOES IN THE MIND AND HEART OF THOSE WHO HEAR IT ,IT IS CALLED “THE LIVING WORD “IT DOES SOMETHING TO THOSE WHO ARE OF THE RIGHT GROUND( THE HEARER) WERE THE SEED(THE MESSAGE) FALLS ON, SO THAT IT IS NOT THE PREACHER OR THE TEACHER MESSAGE BUT GODS MESSAGE THAT DOES THE WORK ,
THE PREACHERS IS ONLY A PART OF THE WORK THAT GOD WANT HIM TO DO ,TO SHOW LOVE FOR THE TRUTH OF HIS GOD AND FATHER ,SO ALSO IT IS FOR THE TEACHERS
GOD SPIRIT DOES THE REAL WORK.
Dear Terraricca,By posting that the Preacher is not important,.. You are at war with God, opposing the words of God, is making war with God.
The words of God, has given not directly to the listeners but through the preacher sent by God.
As per the written testimony: How they can be heard without the preacher? Meant, the preacher is the one to be used by God to tell His living words.
After the people had listened with the living words of God, faith comes among the listeners.
The Holy Scriptures is very much silent to the claims of the other so called christian believers that “we do not need the preachers from God, just read the Bible,.. Presto and we had got the living words of God, and live with it based wit our own individual interpretations..
That method is too dangerous and it could bring all of us to the verge of condemnation. Why? imagine, everyone of from us have each own interpretations to the words of God, and the worst is, we are not in conformity to what we have believing for. The other shall says: This is the right one for me and the other will said: No! this the right ways.
Where is the unity? God, is not God of confusions.
lmjread this ;
1CO 9:16 For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for I am under compulsion; for woe is me if I do not preach the gospel.
2CO 4:5 For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake1CO 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void.
Phil 1:17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
Phil 1:18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.before saying things to fast make some inquiries first
Dear Terraricca,You did not place your point or conclusion.
So, what is your point or conclusion to the verse you have post?
You still with your stand that by obtaining the messages of God, we really do not need the true preachers from God?
I could not find the verses that could be used to support your stand, where is it?
Peace.
LMJQuote By posting that the Preacher is not important,.. You are at war with God, opposing the words of God, is making war with God. THIS IS WHAT YOU ACCUSE ME OF ;
and so I quoted you those scriptures do you understand them
Dear Terraricca,I did not.
There are no verses from the Bible that it says” THE PREACHERS SENT BY GOD ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT”
Where the words “it is not the preacher that his important” came from?
The Bible is shouting very loudly that the Preachers from God, is very much essential in propagating the gospel of Christ.
It is common to us everyone that the words of God is very much important for the salvation of our souls but it is not common that there is another important in regards with listening to the words of God. The preachers sent by God, or the messenger of God, in human kind.
I am very sorry if I have offended, I do not mean it.
Peace bee with us.
LmjYou have not shown an objection to the scriptures I have quoted you
And only give me your opinion,why???
You say that I need light and guidance from your preachers ,I went to that site ,and listen to what they say,
But to tell you the truth ,I am totally commited mind,heart and soul to God and his son ,so there is no room in me for any other things,
Your site that you promote his a religious organization with a different approach but the end result remains the same,
Deceit ,
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,17:04) HERE IS THE LINK of THE PREACHERS WITH D.I.D. (having divine identification or testimony of the prophesies). http://www.incmedia.Go and find out.
Limjunus.You have ignored my question.
Regarding Isiah 11:6–11. 65:17–25.Zech.14:11—21.
Where can you fit in those scriptures in your picture?
Can you answer please. This includes all of you brothers.
wakeup.
Lmj
The tuffest work in this world is for a sales person to make you believe one lie,the only lie that his important for his success ,this was and still his true today ,this his the deceit of the devil,
The lie that as to be believed his that HE HIS TELLING THE TRUTH.
Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,17:12) Quote 10. “You are My witnesses,” says the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. . –lim
The places in your Bible where “LORD” appears capitalized is to signify that they have CHANGED that word, removing or hiding Gods name, and substituting it with “LORD.”
How can someone who is a MESSENGER OF GOD, not convey the accurate the basic truth that God has a personal name, one that he inspired to be recorded 7000 times in the Bible, and one which Gods enemies seek to hide, dishonour, and bring reproach on.
Limjunis, I noticed that people from the COC refer to god as “the Lord God.” My guess is, this is is because you use Bibles that dishonour Gods name by almost completely removing it.
There are in fact bibles that use “YAHWEH” or “Jehovah” instead of substituting “LORD” 7000 times.
My question is: why do you not understand that hiding Gods name puts you against God? How can we believe you represent God, as a Messenger of God, and yet, are hiding the fact that he even has a name?
I realize you would prefer to talk about how you are a true MESSENGER OF GOD, but how can. Believe that, if you constantly hide Gods name? (yes, it was not pronounced “Jehovah,” as you said. And neither was “Jesus” name pronounced “Jesus.”)
Question: what if I made a bible and took “Jesus” name out and replaced it with “Lord”? Or what if every time I see “Jesus” in scripture, I write “LORD” instead? Would you see this as highly problematic? if I said I am a Christian, and yet I hide Jesus' name, would you believe that I was a “Christian”?
So, my basic question is: why do you, a messenger of God, hide the fact that God has a name, by outing from a Bible that has almost completely removed at name?
David
David,Relax and do not walk very fast.
Where is your very strong evidence that the messenger of God at the ends of the earth is hiding the name of God?
Did you have tried hearing the gospel from the true messenger of God?
Did you heard personally from him (messenger of God, at the ends of the earth) that he is hiding the name of the Lord God?
You can not have the true meaning of the words of God, specially the difficult phrases and you can not have the given knowledge by God, to know the deepest mystery about of God, if you are not the right person He had prophesied to be His authenticated preacher to preach His words.
Where is the Biblical evidences of your preacher/s? can you show it to me here?
If your so called preachers with your congregation is having not the testimony of the Biblical prophesies for them. Therefore you are in the hands of the darkness and not in the hands of light. ( Book of Isaiah 8:20 NKJV)
Sorry to say the above quotations but it must be said fro the sake of the truth about.
God bless you my dear friend David.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2012,17:39) Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,06:05) Quote The preacher to be of the gospel of Christ, must be having the authentication, certification and truly sent by God, (through the divine identification duly and specially made by God). And how do we know someone is truly sent by God?
How do we know you are sent by God?
David.That is exactly it,where is that preacher that preach the truth?
How can we decern if a preacher is telling the truth?
We can tell by comparing his sermon with the scriptures.
As I have said; they have all gone astray.wakeup.
David and wakeup,That is why I am very eagerly of inviting you to come forward with this link: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi
Forum:The Hot Seat
Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y371909
Then you will know how we can be sure that the preacher teaching the words of God, is really sent by God.
You are welcome Wakeup.
And David, even though he is already with the link but have failed to read the pots from the beginning to the last, that's why he had still have the questions.
Peace.
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:09) Romans 10:13-15 King James Version (KJV) 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent?
Limjunus.This why the gospel is preached in all the world FOR A WITNESS.
To proclaim the name of the Lord,but now also we can have the word of God in our homes.Only in the 1000yr reign with Christ as King of kings,will knowledge cover the earth, as the sea cover the earth.
As for today; the land is desolate.We seek and we find. The URGE to find the truth is the KEY.
For then the holy spirit will come and open the eyes.For 2000yrs christians have been listening to preachers and they have not gone anywhere but down the tube,things are getting worse,just read 2 Tim:1–5.
Rise up,ye women that are at EASE; hear my voice,ye careless daughters.; give ear unto my speech.
(we are saved,we are born again, God will take care of us).Many days and years shall ye be troubled,ye careless women:
For the vintage shall fail,the GATHERING shall not come.
wakeup.
Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,17:40) Quote
Is there preachers nowadays with the D.I.D.? Yes.Here is the D.I.D. Book of Isaiah 43:5-7, 10 J. Moffat.
5. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the far east, And gather you from the far west; 6. I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth.
Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth 7. Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
10. “You are My witnesses,” says the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. .
If this scripture is speaking of some sort of divine identification, I would say that I know of a group at also uses this scripture as identification.
” Everyone who is called by My name….”You are My witnesses,” says the LORD,”
If being a witness (someone who tells the truth about what they know) of “the LORD,” is divine identification, then I know of this other group, that also likes to preach a bit.
The thing that seem to differentiate you, is your intolerance of musical instruments. 🙂
David,My dear friend,
Be humble with yourself. Did your preachers show you the Biblical proofs that there were the true messengers of God, and showing to you the Biblical prophesies for them?
As we have aware, there were so many preachers nowadays. God, knows in the first hand that we need to be equipped with the truth to determine the false preachers and the true preachers?
The Biblical truths is shouting to us very loudly that if you are seriously seeking the truth of God, you must hear His words from His messenger. The divine identification was already also told in the Book of Prophet Isaiah 8:20.
They must having the proof of the prophesies written by the prophet of God, the same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles.
The concerned to be messengers of God, shall be the one to claim the said prophesies as their divine credential to be presented to the people as what John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and Apostle Paul did in their times.
If your preachers did not speak according to the law and testimony of the prophesies, there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Peace be with us.
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,18:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2012,17:39) Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,06:05) Quote The preacher to be of the gospel of Christ, must be having the authentication, certification and truly sent by God, (through the divine identification duly and specially made by God). And how do we know someone is truly sent by God?
How do we know you are sent by God?
David.That is exactly it,where is that preacher that preach the truth?
How can we decern if a preacher is telling the truth?
We can tell by comparing his sermon with the scriptures.
As I have said; they have all gone astray.wakeup.
David and wakeup,That is why I am very eagerly of inviting you to come forward with this link: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi
Forum:The Hot Seat
Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y371909
Then you will know how we can be sure that the preacher teaching the words of God, is really sent by God.
You are welcome Wakeup.
And David, even though he is already with the link but have failed to read the pots from the beginning to the last, that's why he had still have the questions.
Peace.
Limjunus.Why are you still ignoring my questions.
Why dont you ask your preacher for help,if you are having trouble with that question.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,17:58) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,11:51) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,16:12) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,11:10) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,15:46) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,10:19) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,02:34) it is not the preacher that his important IT IS THE MESSAGE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN THAT GOES IN THE MIND AND HEART OF THOSE WHO HEAR IT ,IT IS CALLED “THE LIVING WORD “IT DOES SOMETHING TO THOSE WHO ARE OF THE RIGHT GROUND( THE HEARER) WERE THE SEED(THE MESSAGE) FALLS ON, SO THAT IT IS NOT THE PREACHER OR THE TEACHER MESSAGE BUT GODS MESSAGE THAT DOES THE WORK ,
THE PREACHERS IS ONLY A PART OF THE WORK THAT GOD WANT HIM TO DO ,TO SHOW LOVE FOR THE TRUTH OF HIS GOD AND FATHER ,SO ALSO IT IS FOR THE TEACHERS
GOD SPIRIT DOES THE REAL WORK.
Dear Terraricca,By posting that the Preacher is not important,.. You are at war with God, opposing the words of God, is making war with God.
The words of God, has given not directly to the listeners but through the preacher sent by God.
As per the written testimony: How they can be heard without the preacher? Meant, the preacher is the one to be used by God to tell His living words.
After the people had listened with the living words of God, faith comes among the listeners.
The Holy Scriptures is very much silent to the claims of the other so called christian believers that “we do not need the preachers from God, just read the Bible,.. Presto and we had got the living words of God, and live with it based wit our own individual interpretations..
That method is too dangerous and it could bring all of us to the verge of condemnation. Why? imagine, everyone of from us have each own interpretations to the words of God, and the worst is, we are not in conformity to what we have believing for. The other shall says: This is the right one for me and the other will said: No! this the right ways.
Where is the unity? God, is not God of confusions.
lmjread this ;
1CO 9:16 For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for I am under compulsion; for woe is me if I do not preach the gospel.
2CO 4:5 For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake1CO 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void.
Phil 1:17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
Phil 1:18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.before saying things to fast make some inquiries first
Dear Terraricca,You did not place your point or conclusion.
So, what is your point or conclusion to the verse you have post?
You still with your stand that by obtaining the messages of God, we really do not need the true preachers from God?
I could not find the verses that could be used to support your stand, where is it?
Peace.
LMJQuote By posting that the Preacher is not important,.. You are at war with God, opposing the words of God, is making war with God. THIS IS WHAT YOU ACCUSE ME OF ;
and so I quoted you those scriptures do you understand them
Dear Terraricca,I did not.
There are no verses from the Bible that it says” THE PREACHERS SENT BY GOD ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT”
Where the words “it is not the preacher that his important” came from?
The Bible is shouting very loudly that the Preachers from God, is very much essential in propagating the gospel of Christ.
It is common to us everyone that the words of God is very much important for the salvation of our souls but it is not common that there is another important in regards with listening to the words of God. The preachers sent by God, or the messenger of God, in human kind.
I am very sorry if I have offended, I do not mean it.
Peace bee with us.
LmjYou have not shown an objection to the scriptures I have quoted you
And only give me your opinion,why???
You say that I need light and guidance from your preachers ,I went to that site ,and listen to what they say,
But to tell you the truth ,I am totally commited mind,heart and soul to God and his son ,so there is no room in me for any other things,
Your site that you promote his a religious organization with a different approach but the end result remains the same,
Deceit ,
Dear Terraricca,How could I post my objection, you did not include your understanding the verses you have quoted and you have no clear conclusion of your own with the verses.
Post your conclusion specifically in relation the verses you had quoted, likening the way I had did.
One verse or more but you must be given your own understanding so that I could object or not.
You have visited already the link I had given or posting here and you are not happy with it and gave your conclusion straightly without any hesitation that they just doing the cheating, deceptions?
Why they have different approach compare's to mine? but at the end you are saying that we were in deceptions style?
So, it is beyond with my conceptions and you have the full freedom to judge for yourself in terms of seeking the truth.
Objection with your phrases:
How you could commit your heart and mind to God and to Christ Jesus, if you are not accepting the truth of God, that you must hear His words from His authent
icated messengers with D.I.D.?You are just relying with yourself and ignoring the good news brought to you by someone already heard the gospel from the true preachers of God.
Do not let the words of God, will works against you. Like what God, said in the Book of Romans 10:3 NKJV.
“For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.”
Peace my dear Terraricca.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2012,19:05) getting worse,just read 2 Tim:1–5. Rise up,ye women that are at EASE; hear my voice,ye careless daughters.; give ear unto my speech.
(we are saved,we are born again, God will take care of us).
Wakeup,See the messages?
Rise up,ye women that are at EASE; hear my voice,ye careless daughters.; give ear unto my speech.
In common of Romans 10:14-15, 17 and Isaiah 8:20.
Relatively and in connections: HEAR MY VOICE … GIVE EAR unto my speech.
You need a true preacher, then listen to the words of God,… if believe you will follow but if you did not believe for what they have preached you shall be in vain.
“THE MESSENGER OF GOD”
1. After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. 2. Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3. saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”
Ref: Revelation 7:1-3 NKJV.
Can you comprehend this prophesies?
Do you agree with me that the other word for “messenger” is “angel”?
Go and find it with the Dictionary.
So, there is messenger of God, ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God, the task of the messengers are to seal the servants of the Living God, to their foreheads.
Where is this east and when it shall come into pass?
I will share my spiritual views in my next post.
Good day Terraricca.
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,18:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2012,17:39) Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,06:05) Quote The preacher to be of the gospel of Christ, must be having the authentication, certification and truly sent by God, (through the divine identification duly and specially made by God). And how do we know someone is truly sent by God?
How do we know you are sent by God?
David.That is exactly it,where is that preacher that preach the truth?
How can we decern if a preacher is telling the truth?
We can tell by comparing his sermon with the scriptures.
As I have said; they have all gone astray.wakeup.
David and wakeup,That is why I am very eagerly of inviting you to come forward with this link: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi
Forum:The Hot Seat
Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y371909
Then you will know how we can be sure that the preacher teaching the words of God, is really sent by God.
You are welcome Wakeup.
And David, even though he is already with the link but have failed to read the pots from the beginning to the last, that's why he had still have the questions.
Peace.
Limjunus.I am still waiting for the answer to my questions.
wakeup.
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,17:01) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2012,15:58) LMJ And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12. for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13. till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; (Eph. 4:11-13 NKJV)
Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called—
Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Eph 4:7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it.
Eph 4:8 This is why it says:
“When he ascended on high,
he led captives in his train
and gave gifts to men.”
Eph 4:9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions ?
Eph 4:10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)
Eph 4:11 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:12 to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up
Eph 4:13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
Eph 4:14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
Eph 4:15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
Eph 4:16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.IT SEEMS THAT IT WAS CHRIST THAT APPOINTED THE APOSTLES ,BUT AS PAUL SAYS HE HAS GIVEN TO ALL TRUE BELIEVERS ACCORDING TO THEIR NEED
WE HAVE TO GO AND REACH FOR MATURITY IN OUR FAITH
Dear Terraricca,You still not seeing the very importance of the messenger of God. You still holding your own reasoning and not the righteousness of God.
Only the messenger of God, with the D.I.D. can tell the words of God to the people and not you or me; except the one who have teach the words of God with us is the true messengers of God.
Here is the salt: John 3:34 NKJV.
34For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
You need light Terraricca? You need a preacher sent by God with D.I.D (Isaiah 8:20)
Limjunus.Since you are a messenger send by God, as you confess.
Can you tell me the difference between the battle of harmageddon, and the battle of gog and magog.wakeup.
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Is there preachers nowadays with the D.I.D.? Yes.Here is the D.I.D. Book of Isaiah 43:5-7, 10 J. Moffat.
5. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the far east, And gather you from the far west; 6. I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth.
Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth 7. Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
10. “You are My witnesses,” says the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. .
If this scripture is speaking of some sort of divine identification, I would say that I know of a group at also uses this scripture as identification.
” Everyone who is called by My name….”You are My witnesses,” says the LORD,”
If being a witness (someone who tells the truth about what they know) of “the LORD,” is divine identification, then I know of this other group, that also likes to preach a bit.
The thing that seem to differentiate you, is your intolerance of musical instruments. 🙂
David,My dear friend,
Be humble with yourself. Did your preachers show you the Biblical proofs that there were the true messengers of God, and showing to you the Biblical prophesies for them?
As we have aware, there were so many preachers nowadays. God, knows in the first hand that we need to be equipped with the truth to determine the false preachers and the true preachers?
The Biblical truths is shouting to us very loudly that if you are seriously seeking the truth of God, you must hear His words from His messenger. The divine identification was already also told in the Book of Prophet Isaiah 8:20.
They must having the proof of the prophesies written by the prophet of God, the same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles.
The concerned to be messengers of God, shall be the one to claim the said prophesies as their divine credential to be presented to the people as what John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and Apostle Paul did in their times.
If your preachers did not speak according to the law and testimony of the prophesies, there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Peace be with us.
Limjunus.So far you have given us milk.
have you got some preaching with some substance,so we can advance?wakeup.
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