THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 12 2012,15:04)

Quote Can you just tell me who the Holy ghost is? Can you anwer with scripture if possible. Was Jesus born again? and when. Just these few questions if you dont mind. Who is the Holy Ghost? I will show you and all by the scripture,  Jesus said that His Father is in heaven.  Mat 7:21, Mat 10:32, Mat 10:33, Mat 12:50.   OK Jesus said His Father is in heaven. Now Mat 1:20 says that Jesus Father is the Holy Ghost. Jesus only has one Father, not two, so the the Father and the Holy Ghost are one and the same God. 2nd Question. Was Jesus Born Again? Jesus was born the Christ. God Bless Marlin

Marlin1.

You said the father IS THE HOLY GHOST:

John 15:26. But when the comforter is come, WHOM I WILL SEND unto you,FROM THE FATHER(not the father him self,but from the father).
even the spirit of TRUTH, –which proceedeth –FROM THE FATHER–,he shall testify of me.

Jesus was born -OF- the Holy spirit: (which proceeded FROM GOD.) (the holy spirit is from God.)

15:7.—I WILL SEND HIM TO YOU.(Jesus is sending the father??) should it not be the other way around??

!6:14. HE SHALL GLORIFY ME: FOR HE SHALL RECEIVE OF –MINE–.
(the father receive of Jesus???).
We must read sriptures very carefully.

BORN AGAIN:

You believe that one is born again; when baptised in water.
And once born again always born again.
Most Christians are babtised;(born again)they say.

But christ said:–many will come to me saying,Lord,Lord—-
And he will say I dont know you.( But you say once born again always born again)??

JESUS WAS BAPTISED IN WATER; WAS HE BORN AGAIN?
You said; “he was born the christ” (true he was born the mesiah). But was he born again?

kind regards.

wakeup.

[Marlin1]

Hi T,

Jesus had no sin and needed not to repent.

Can any of us say the same?

God Bless
Marlin

[Wakeup]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 13 2012,01:34)

Hi T, Jesus had no sin and needed not to repent. Can any of us say the same? God Bless Marlin

Marlin.

Will you answer my qestion?
Is THE FATHER THE HOLY GHOST?

wakeup.

[Marlin1]

Yes Wakeup,

God is the Holy Ghost and that same God is the Father.
And God is a Spirit.

God Bless
Marlin

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m1

Mt 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

explain how you com to that conclution that God IS the holy spirit ???

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 13 2012,08:34)

Hi T, Jesus had no sin and needed not to repent. Can any of us say the same? God Bless Marlin

M1

you still to not get it ,

the baptism of Christ is not the same , the others because they were sinners he was not

[Marlin1]

Hi T,

MAT 3:14 †  But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 † And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 † And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Jesus' baptism represented the washing of the Lamb of Sacrifice.

JOHN 4:2 † (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

Before the Lamb had been slain and resurrected, He baptized His disciples.
It was just as much of a ordnance then as now.

God Bless
Marlin

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 13 2012,15:19)

Hi T, MAT 3:14 †  But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 † And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 † And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Jesus' baptism represented the washing of the Lamb of Sacrifice. JOHN 4:2 † (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) Before the Lamb had been slain and resurrected, He baptized His disciples. It was just as much of a ordnance then as now. God Bless Marlin

M1

wen John says that he would be the one that should be baptized by Jesus would this mean that the baptism of Christ is not the same as the one of John ?

[Pastry]

JESUS WAS BAPTISED IN WATER; WAS HE BORN AGAIN?
You said; “he was born the christ” (true he was born the mesiah). But was he born again?

kind regards.

wakeup.

Jesus was born the son of God; at baptism he was anointed with the Holy Spirit, that is when his ministry as the Messiah/Christ began.

Yes, Jesus was born again, he died did he not? he was born again at his resurrection.

Georg

Ps. how did we get from “the Man of perdition” to this?

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Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 13 2012,17:53)

JESUS WAS BAPTISED IN WATER; WAS HE BORN AGAIN? You said; “he was born the christ” (true he was born the mesiah). But was he born again? kind regards. wakeup. Jesus was born the son of God; at baptism he was anointed with the Holy Spirit, that is when his ministry as the Messiah/Christ began. Yes, Jesus was born again, he died did he not? he was born again at his resurrection. Georg Ps. how did we get from “the Man of perdition” to this?

[Marlin1]

Hi T,

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wen John says that he would be the one that should be baptized by Jesus would this mean that the baptism of Christ is not the same as the one of John

John was the greatest of the prophets, He new who Jesus was and that is why he said it.

God Bless
Marlin

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 13 2012,18:14)

Hi T, Quote wen John says that he would be the one that should be baptized by Jesus would this mean that the baptism of Christ is not the same as the one of John John was the greatest of the prophets, He new who Jesus was and that is why he said it. God Bless Marlin

m1

your answer shows your knowledge please keep reading the scriptures and do not add your own views to it

you have yet much to learn

[Marlin1]

Hi Georg,

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JESUS WAS BAPTISED IN WATER; WAS HE BORN AGAIN? You said; “he was born the christ” (true he was born the mesiah). But was he born again? kind regards.

I believe I answered this question,

Yes He was filled with the Spirit of God that day, without measure, at the Jordan, BORN AGAIN.  And John saw it.

Just like we have to be Filled with the Spirit of God, except we only receive a measure of God.

God Bless
Marlin

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georg

even wen you give them the answer they will not understand it so much ego and religion in their brain

[Marlin1]

Hi T,

I know what you are referring to.  Jesus said you can NOT receive the WORD unless you be BORN AGAIN.  And Georg just said He DIED and was BORN AGAIN.  Then tell me please,  How a dead man will receive the WORD in this LIFE.  If it was to be in the next life then we would not need to worry about it in this life, would we.

You always want to say we have to much religion,
YOU WORDS ARE EMPTY WORDS,  BeCAUSE you won't put forth your scriptures.

Put your scriptures where you have been putting your CONDESCENDING WORDS.

God Bless
Marlin

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 13 2012,19:01)

Hi T, I know what you are referring to.  Jesus said you can NOT receive the WORD unless you be BORN AGAIN.  And Georg just said He DIED and was BORN AGAIN.  Then tell me please,  How a dead man will receive the WORD in this LIFE.  If it was to be in the next life then we would not need to worry about it in this life, would we. You always want to say we have to much religion, YOU WORDS ARE EMPTY WORDS,  BeCAUSE you won't put forth your scriptures. Put your scriptures where you have been putting your CONDESCENDING WORDS. God Bless Marlin

M1

first now you understood some thing ,so lets go from here ;

I tell you what scriptures are saying and you try to undo what i say ok,

Jn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’”

this is what you say;

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Jesus said you can NOT receive the WORD unless you be BORN AGAIN.

Put your scriptures where you have been putting your CONDESCENDING WORDS.
is this the same not to me ,what make you say this

[Marlin1]

Hi T,

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Put your scriptures where you have been putting your CONDESCENDING WORDS. is this the same not to me ,what make you say this

Remarks like this T,

you said, they will not understand it so much ego and religion in their brain

God Bless
Marlin

[Marlin1]

Hi T,

The question was this,

Then tell me please,  How a dead man will receive the WORD in this LIFE?  

Why waist your Time now, if you will receive the word after you die?

God Bless
Marlin

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 13 2012,19:24)

Hi T, The question was this, Then tell me please,  How a dead man will receive the WORD in this LIFE?   Why waist your Time now, if you will receive the word after you die? God Bless Marlin

M1

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Then tell me please,  How a dead man will receive the WORD in this LIFE?

I do not know that scriptures so I can not answer it

Jn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’”

[Wakeup]

Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 13 2012,10:53)

JESUS WAS BAPTISED IN WATER; WAS HE BORN AGAIN? You said; “he was born the christ” (true he was born the mesiah). But was he born again? kind regards. wakeup. Jesus was born the son of God; at baptism he was anointed with the Holy Spirit, that is when his ministry as the Messiah/Christ began. Yes, Jesus was born again, he died did he not? he was born again at his resurrection. Georg Ps. how did we get from “the Man of perdition” to this?

Pastry.

I agree with you in this(the babt. of Jesus).Lets go back to the man of perdition.

The two legs was east,and west roman empire(agree?).
The two feet,you said is the league of nations,and the 10 toes is the U.N.am I right?

The league of nations(the feet) only started in 1919.
My question: What kingdom was before the league of nations?(the feet)?

Did the old roman Emp.ended in 1919?

You said the toes,is the beast that came out of the b.pit.
I agree with you on this one.(the last beast).

The man of perdition will come after the 10 horns has come together.
But you said that the POPE is the man of perdition; this has to be the last POPE,or he is coming.

My question: the 10 kings are not established yet,but the POPE is here today; Must there be another one?

I also have noticed,that all the POPES never claimed to be God;
but the vicar of Christ.(representatives only).In Dan11:36.he was named THE KING.Will he be the king of the world?

As he comes up, he will uproot 3 kings; will he;the POPE(king) uproot 3 kings?

The man of perdition is going to introduce the mark,(number),to the whole world,not only Christians.
What is this number or mark?

Thank you georg.

wakeup.

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