THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

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  • #312066
    journey42
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    Ed wrote:

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    Hi Georgie,

                                   

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    Pentecost“=117      
                                  Former Rain=117
                           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
                     63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
                  +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
                   117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

    NOT SCRIPTURAL
    YOU CANNOT PROVE YOUR NUMBERS WITH SCRIPTURE
    GOD GAVE US HIS WORDS, NOT NUMBERS TO LEARN BY

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    “God The Father”(117) raised Jesus from the dead. (Gal.1:1)
    Pentecost: in Greek means “Fifty”, fifty days later was “Pentecost”.


    FIFTY DAYS AFTER WHAT?  AFTER DEATH?
    IF SO THEN THIS MATCHES WHAT I AM SAYING

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    4 days is a fractal truth of when they saw Jesus again (in the flesh).


    SCRIPTURE PLEASE, NOT NUMBERS

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    Jesus was raised right at the end of the third day not in the middle of it as you suggest.


    WHERE DID I SAY THAT JESUS WAS RAISED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THIRD DAY?

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    JESUS RETURNED (in spirit form) 54 DAYS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION!

                 
    WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES I GAVE YOU PROVING HE HE ROSE IN THE MORNING, WENT UP TO THE FATHER, AND CAME BACK THAT SAME EVENING.
    EXPLAIN PLEASE, WHY YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES?
          

                                             

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    (The LORD JEHOVAH=151)         
                       The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
                       God's Name יהוה  translates directly into English as YHVH=63
    Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                       is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                       [“The Latter Rain“=151 and former rain“=117] unto the earth.


    THIS NEW AGE TYPE OF TEACHING IS NOT GOING TO BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT. YOU WATER DOWN THE WORD OF GOD WITH NUMBERS.  
    THE WORDS ED,
    READ THE WORDS OF GOD

    YOU ADDING TO SCRIPTURE, MAKING YOUR OWN INTERPRETATIONS.
    YOU REJECT EVERYTHING

    #312069
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,18:01)
    YOU CANNOT PROVE YOUR NUMBERS WITH SCRIPTURE


    Hi Georgie,

    You have it backwards, the numbers PROVE Scripture.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312070
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,14:08)

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       “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
        and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

        John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

        If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?


    Hi Pierre,

    The Theomatic formula of [63+54=117] helps to conclusively prove “YHVH is GOD”=117.

    “YHVH”=63 as the “Spirit [of] God” (God Spirit=117) indwells in mankind starting after
    a 54-day period which began at the crucifixion and ended at Pentecost. On day four,
    Jesus is living again, “GOD the Father”=117 raised Him back to life (Gal.1:1).
    Pentecost in Greek means fifty; which started fifty days after the resurrection.
    Pentecost brings a close to the fifty-four day period that began at Jesus’ death.
    “Pentecost”=117 therefore began 54 days after the crucifixion.

    “YHVH”=63 plus the 54 days it took prior to “Pentecost”=117 starting,
    can therefore be mathematically (Theomatically) stated as (63+54=117).
    This formula lends strong support to the claim of English Gematria
    in general and stronger evidence that “YHVH is GOD”=117.

                       The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
                       God's Name יהוה  translates directly into English as YHVH=63
    Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                       is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                       [“The Latter Rain“=151 and former rain“=117] unto the earth.


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

                The Passover“=148
                      [74+74=148]  
    Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148

                   Pentecost“=117      
                  Former Rain=117
           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
      63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
    +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
    117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

               
                 The Latter Rain=151
                Feast of Booths“=151
              (Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
               “Jesus is Lord”=151,
    because “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
         “The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
             Click Here for more


    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps to corroborate this all important “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117! (Isaiah 43:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)


    EdJ.

    The words that I speak to you ,they are spirit and they are life. NOT THE NUMBERS THAT I SHOW TO YOU,ARE LIFE.

    There are no numbers in the gospels nor the old testament, so why did you combine the two? Is this not a sin in it self? Would you dare to present your doctrine to the Lord? Would he be pleased with you?

    Would he say: Good boy,why dont the rest of the flock have that knowledge? Come my faithful servant;your numbers have made you whole.

    Woe to the leaven of the scribes and pharisees.

    wakeup.

    #312071
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,18:01)

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    “God The Father”(117) raised Jesus from the dead. (Gal.1:1)
    Pentecost: in Greek means “Fifty”, fifty days later was “Pentecost”.


    FIFTY DAYS AFTER WHAT?  AFTER DEATH?
    IF SO THEN THIS MATCHES WHAT I AM SAYING


    Hi Georgie,

    It is 50 days after his resurrection, not his crucifixion.
    Did you not even read my post where I explained this?


    The Theomatic formula of [63+54=117] helps to conclusively prove “YHVH is GOD”=117.

    “YHVH”=63 as the “Spirit [of] God” (God Spirit=117) indwells in mankind starting after
    a 54-day period which began at the crucifixion and ended at Pentecost. On day four,
    Jesus is living again, “GOD the Father”=117 raised Him back to life (Gal.1:1).
    Pentecost in Greek means fifty; which started fifty days after the resurrection.

    Pentecost brings a close to the fifty-four day period that began at Jesus’ death.
    “Pentecost”=117 therefore began 54 days after the crucifixion.

    “YHVH”=63 plus the 54 days it took prior to “Pentecost”=117 starting,
    can therefore be mathematically (Theomatically) stated as (63+54=117).
    Seen physically again on day 4, and spiritually 50 days later; 54 days total.


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312072
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,18:01)

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    Jesus was raised right at the end of the third day not in the middle of it as you suggest.


    WHERE DID I SAY THAT JESUS WAS RAISED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THIRD DAY?


    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,16:12)
    Christ died, then rose 3 1/2 days later.


    Knowest not what we say?

    ?

    #312074
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,18:01)

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    JESUS RETURNED (in spirit form) 54 DAYS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION!

                 
    WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES I GAVE YOU PROVING HE HE ROSE IN THE MORNING, WENT UP TO THE FATHER, AND CAME BACK THAT SAME EVENING.


    Hi Georgie,

    “And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James,
    and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early
    in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.” (Mark 16:1-2)
    Mark 16:1-2 speaks of when the two Mary's went together to the tomb, NOT when the resurrection of Jesus Christ occurred.

    But this one does…

    “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
    so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
    The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because
    they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and, behold, a greater than Jonah is here.” (Matt 12:40-41)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312075
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,18:01)
    YOU REJECT EVERYTHING


    I don't reject “all” your interpretations. ???

    #312077
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,18:28)
    EdJ.

    (1)There are no numbers in the gospels nor the old testament, (2)so why did you combine the two? (3)Is this not a sin in it self? (4)Would you dare to present your doctrine to the Lord? (5)Would he be pleased with you?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    1) FALSE!   –   Gen.1:1 In the beginning God created…   –   “the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” (Matt.12:40)
    2) To show you God's Signature, which is proof he exists.
    3) Are you now making yourself my judge?
    4) I believe he already knows.
    5) He is the image of his father is he not? (See Joshua 22:34)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312081
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,19:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,18:28)
    EdJ.

    (1)There are no numbers in the gospels nor the old testament, (2)so why did you combine the two? (3)Is this not a sin in it self? (4)Would you dare to present your doctrine to the Lord? (5)Would he be pleased with you?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    1) FALSE!   –   Gen.1:1 In the beginning God created…   –   “the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” (Matt.12:40)
    2) To show you God's Signature, which is proof he exists.
    3) Are you now making yourself my judge?
    4) I believe he already knows.
    5) He is the image of his father is he not? (See Joshua 22:34)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    Seek the scriptures and you will find God,not in numbers.

    I am no judge,but the word does the judging.

    The words that I speak will judge(Jesus words).

    wakeup.

    #312085
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:22)
    The words that I speak will judge(Jesus words).


    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit(Jesus' words)

    #312086
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:22)
    I am no judge


    Agreed!

    #312090
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,19:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:22)
    The words that I speak will judge(Jesus words).


    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit(Jesus' words)


    Yes Ed. the words that I speak to you; not the numbers that I gave to you.

    Jesus never gave us numbers of anykind to study.
    But the world does numbers.

    wakeup.

    #312092
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,19:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:22)
    The words that I speak will judge(Jesus words).


    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit(Jesus' words)


    Yes Ed. the words that I speak to you; not the numbers that I gave to you.

    Jesus never gave us numbers of anykind to study.
    But the world does numbers.

    wakeup.


    Why do you keep repeating what is false?

    “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
    so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
    The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it:
    because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and, behold, a greater than Jonah is here.”     (Matt 12:40-41)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312099
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,19:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,19:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,19:22)
    The words that I speak will judge(Jesus words).


    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit(Jesus' words)


    Yes Ed. the words that I speak to you; not the numbers that I gave to you.

    Jesus never gave us numbers of anykind to study.
    But the world does numbers.

    wakeup.


    Why do you keep repeating what is false?

    “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
    so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
    The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it:
    because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and, behold, a greater than Jonah is here.”     (Matt 12:40-41)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    And this great babylon will get the full dose,of the wrath of God; the wine without mixture.
    Go back to the scriptures only,time is so short,it is coming,and you will be caught in the devils trap without you even realising.

    You are now leading to that trap already, preaching that the coming has past.
    That all is past; Jesus came 2000yrs ago,and that I have missed the boat.

    The false prophet will appear, and the world will not recognise him as he is,but see him as just a good leader,trying to bring peace.

    Isiah 10:6.7.(read verse 6 also).
    7. Howbeit,he meaneth not so,neither does his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off NATIONS,NOT A FEW.

    He will start persecuting christians that refuse his number,and when he is done with them ,he also will persecute the rest with, or without the number.

    Rev.6.The pale horse: He is the rider,he is death,where ever he goes is death. For satan, his master knows that he has a short time.

    The second coming is very near,it is at the door.
    Let the Lord find you seeking the scriptures whe he appears.

    Dont let him find you seeking other books.
    It is his flesh we must eat,for in his flesh only; is life everlasting. Be strong and humble enough to resist,the doctrines of this world.

    This is serious: I will even go on my knees to beg you.
    Believe me.I am not your enemy.

    wakeup.

    #312100
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,20:45)
    EdJ.

    And this great babylon will get the full dose,of the wrath of God; the wine without mixture.
    Go back to the scriptures only,time is so short,it is coming,and you will be caught in the devils trap without you even realising.

    You are now leading to that trap already, preaching that the coming has past.
    That all is past; Jesus came 2000yrs ago,and that I have missed the boat.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

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    That all is past;

          Here again is yet more evidence of you speaking what is false.       …A.K.A. bearing false witness of me.

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    and that I have missed the boat.

          I have not said this either?  ???

    Why are you bearing false witness?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312101
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,20:45)

    The false prophet will appear, and the world will not recognise him as he is,but see him as just a good leader,trying to bring peace.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    It is you who does not recognize him.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312102
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,20:45)
    Believe me.I am not your enemy.

    wakeup.


    Then don't attack me like an enemy.

    “I” for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. (Psalms 120:7)

    #312104
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,20:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,20:45)
    EdJ.

    And this great babylon will get the full dose,of the wrath of God; the wine without mixture.
    Go back to the scriptures only,time is so short,it is coming,and you will be caught in the devils trap without you even realising.

    You are now leading to that trap already, preaching that the coming has past.
    That all is past; Jesus came 2000yrs ago,and that I have missed the boat.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Quote
    That all is past;

          Here again is yet more evidence of you speaking what is false.       …A.K.A. bearing false witness of me.

    Quote
    and that I have missed the boat.

          I have not said this either?  ???

    Why are you bearing false witness?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    I still remember you saying that I am 2000yrs behind.

    In other words I have missed the boat.
    All has happened already,Christ has already come,the kingdom is here etc,etc.
    THERE IS NO TIME FOR YOU SAY THIS, I SAID THAT.

    Lets gain some knowledge.

    wakeup.

    #312106
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,21:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,20:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,20:45)
    EdJ.

    And this great babylon will get the full dose,of the wrath of God; the wine without mixture.
    Go back to the scriptures only,time is so short,it is coming,and you will be caught in the devils trap without you even realising.

    You are now leading to that trap already, preaching that the coming has past.
    That all is past; Jesus came 2000yrs ago,and that I have missed the boat.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Quote
    That all is past;

          Here again is yet more evidence of you speaking what is false.       …A.K.A. bearing false witness of me.

    Quote
    and that I have missed the boat.

          I have not said this either?  ???Why are you bearing false witness?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    I still remember you saying that I am 2000yrs behind.

    In other words I have missed the boat.
    All has happened already,Christ has already come,the kingdom is here etc,etc.
    THERE IS NO TIME FOR YOU SAY THIS, I SAID THAT.

    Lets gain some knowledge.

    wakeup.


    You didn't even read my last post to you, and yet
    you 'think' it is my duty to hang on your every word?  ???       …can you not see the hypocrisy in this?

    #312110
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,21:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,21:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,20:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2012,20:45)
    EdJ.

    And this great babylon will get the full dose,of the wrath of God; the wine without mixture.
    Go back to the scriptures only,time is so short,it is coming,and you will be caught in the devils trap without you even realising.

    You are now leading to that trap already, preaching that the coming has past.
    That all is past; Jesus came 2000yrs ago,and that I have missed the boat.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Quote
    That all is past;

          Here again is yet more evidence of you speaking what is false.       …A.K.A. bearing false witness of me.

    Quote
    and that I have missed the boat.

          I have not said this either?  ???Why are you bearing false witness?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    I still remember you saying that I am 2000yrs behind.

    In other words I have missed the boat.
    All has happened already,Christ has already come,the kingdom is here etc,etc.
    THERE IS NO TIME FOR YOU SAY THIS, I SAID THAT.

    Lets gain some knowledge.

    wakeup.


    You didn't even read my last post to you, and yet
    you 'think' it is my duty to hang on your every word?  ???       …can you not see the hypocrisy in this?


    I did read every post of you.
    But not all your links.

    wakeup.

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