THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

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  • #311315
    Wakeup
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    Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 31 2012,18:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:19)
    Hi Georgie,

    Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Edj

    The “Son of Perdition” was only mentioned twice in the bible.

    JUDAS
    John 17:12   While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, butthe son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. (Psalm 109:8, Acts 1:20)

    THE FALSE PROPHET
    2 Thessalonians 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    2 Thessalonians 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.
    2 Thessalonians 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
    2 Thessalonians 2:9   Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders
    2 Thessalonians 2:10   And with all decievableness of uprighteousness in them that perish because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    2 Thesallonians 2:11   And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

    The Lord (Jesus Christ) does not destroy Satan at his coming, but destroys the false prophet and the beast.(rev 19:20)
    as Satan is bound for 1000 years. (rev 20:2)
    So none of the two scriptures mentioned refer to Satan.
    God is our Father,
    Satan is their Father,
    they are sons.

    John 8:44   Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


    Where does all that knowledge come from?
    Very good one Journey,keep it up. Keep on eating that flesh of life,it is free of polutions.

    wakeup.

    #311317
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi Wakeup,

    Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
    in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

    “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
    of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)


    Wakeup?

    #311327
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi Wakeup,

    Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
    in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

    “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
    of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)


    Wakeup?


    EDJ.

    I can see where you are coming from.

    Ez.28. The PRINCE of tyre is the proud prince with satan in him.(this prince is a man).with satans powers.
    The KING of tyre is satan himself.
    In verse 18. God says: and –I– will bring thee to ashes.
    God him self will deal with him.

    wakeup.

    #311330
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,19:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi Wakeup,

    Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
    in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

    God bless
    Ed J

    This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

    “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
    of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)


    Wakeup?


    EDJ.

    I can see where you are coming from.

    Ez.28. The PRINCE of tyre is the proud prince with satan in him.(this prince is a man).with satans powers.
    The KING of tyre is satan himself.
    In verse 18. God says: and –I– will bring thee to ashes.
    God him self will deal with him.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #311335
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,19:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi Wakeup,

    Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
    in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

    God bless
    Ed J

    This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

    “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
    of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)


    Wakeup?


    EDJ.

    I can see where you are coming from.

    Ez.28. The PRINCE of tyre is the proud prince with satan in him.(this prince is a man).with satans powers.
    The KING of tyre is satan himself.
    In verse 18. God says: and –I– will bring thee to ashes.
    God him self will deal with him.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    Tyre was a great city back then,all the merchandise goes through tyre.Its a type of new york today, a city of trade.
    The prince of that city tyre was a very proud man,and satan was there with his wisdom of trading.

    wakeup.

    #311337
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:21)
    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Wakeup?

    #311343
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:21)
    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Wakeup?


    Edj.

    Satan is the prince OF THIS WORLD.
    He can never be the KING OF THIS WORLD.
    That title belongs to Jesus,only he will be the king of this world in near future.To him the crown will be given.

    EZ.21:27. I WILL OVERTURN,OVERTURN,OVERTURN IT.
    And it shall be no more,UNTILL HE COMES WHOSE RIGHT IT IS.; AND I WILL GIVE IT HIM.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #311345
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,20:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:21)
    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Wakeup?


    Edj.

    Satan is the prince OF THIS WORLD.

    wakeup.


    Thank you for agreeing!

    #311350
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,20:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,20:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:21)
    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Wakeup?


    Edj.

    Satan is the prince OF THIS WORLD.

    wakeup.


    Thank you for agreeing!


    EdJ.

    Now lets go back to the prince of tyre.

    He was a man given power and wisdom of trade in the kingdom of tyre, and he was a very successful prince and very proud man.

    wakeup.

    #311371
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,03:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,20:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:21)
    Hi Wakeup; what prince is this?

    “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” (John 16:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Wakeup?


    Edj.

    Satan is the prince OF THIS WORLD.

    wakeup.


    Thank you for agreeing!


    all and edj

    2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    #311398
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,19:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi Wakeup,

    Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
    in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

    “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
    of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)


    Wakeup?


    EDJ.

    I can see where you are coming from.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Good! It takes time for the seed of truth to grow!  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #311439
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,07:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,19:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,18:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi Wakeup,

    Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
    in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

    “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
    of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)


    Wakeup?


    EDJ.

    I can see where you are coming from.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Good! It takes time for the seed of truth to grow!  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You have taken the wrong road,and you have reached the wrong place,only thing to do is to start over again.
    Its the only thing to do for you.

    wakeup.

    #311449
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I will be patiently waiting at the finish line – while you are busy running the race.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #311459
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,14:27)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I will be patiently waiting at the finish line – while you are busy running the race.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Time is short,very short.

    wakeup.

    #311468
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,20:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,14:27)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I will be patiently waiting at the finish line – while you are busy running the race.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Time is short,very short.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, you have less than 120 years to accomplish your task here.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #311474
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,21:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,20:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,14:27)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I will be patiently waiting at the finish line – while you are busy running the race.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Time is short,very short.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, you have less than 120 years to accomplish your task here.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    In just 4 years and the door will be closed,and that is when the first trumpet will sound.
    As soon as the false prophet appear,the first trumpet will sound.

    wakeup.

    #311476
    terraricca
    Participant

    I am so glade to be freed from all those religion views and dogmas,
    self minded bible interpretations ,that lead to no were ,for no purpose other then scare people ,

    Edj,thinks that is self indoctrination and conviction will be enough to bring him safely to the kingdom ,even though the scriptures never say so ,he claims that he knows but what he knows is so far from truth that he is lost in his own explanations and create new approaches to see things ,like “”spiritual,physical,symbolical,image,””others feel that if they believe what seems to them good enough to be true according to their own views will make it a true reality,if that reality does not show up they focus on a new one ,on and on again.

    don't be like those who can not understand and refuse to see truth as it is;DO NOT FOLLOW RUMORS
    Jn 21:21 When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?”
    Jn 21:22 Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.”
    Jn 21:23 Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”
    Jn 21:24 This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.

    #311523
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 03 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,21:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,20:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,14:27)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I will be patiently waiting at the finish line – while you are busy running the race.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Time is short,very short.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, you have less than 120 years to accomplish your task here.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    In just 4 years and the door will be closed,and that is when the first trumpet will sound.
    As soon as the false prophet appear,the first trumpet will sound.

    wakeup.


    Quote
    In just 4 years and the door will be closed,and that is when the first trumpet will sound.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you claiming to be a prophet now?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #311524
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,01:10)
    Edj,thinks that is self indoctrination and conviction will be enough to bring him safely to the kingdom ,even though the scriptures never say so ,he claims that he knows but what he knows is so far from truth that he is lost in his own explanations and create new approaches to see things ,like “”spiritual,physical,symbolical,image,””others feel that if they believe what seems to them good enough to be true according to their own views will make it a true reality,if that reality does not show up they focus on a new one ,on and on again.


    Where do these ideas of YOURS come from?

    #311530
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,16:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,01:10)
    Edj,thinks that is self indoctrination and conviction will be enough to bring him safely to the kingdom ,even though the scriptures never say so ,he claims that he knows but what he knows is so far from truth that he is lost in his own explanations and create new approaches to see things ,like “”spiritual,physical,symbolical,image,””others feel that if they believe what seems to them good enough to be true according to their own views will make it a true reality,if that reality does not show up they focus on a new one ,on and on again.


    Where do these ideas of YOURS come from?


    edj

    this comes by watching you in a three year period

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