THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

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Terra.

Mat.24:27. For as the lightning comes out of the east,and shineth even to the west: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

30. And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

As you can see; the coming Will not be gradual;it will be in an instant,like the lightning.

wakeup.

like lightning ;does not mean in speed ,in that scripture it mean that it will be seen all over the globe,not only in one place ,I am surprised that you do not know this

Terra.

Then shall appear the son of man in heaven.

His appearing will not be gradual,it will be in an instant.

wakeup.

Wup

His appearance his in heaven ,this means that we will understand his presence through the words he spooked to his disciples,and the fulfillement of those words

Terra.

You are putting your own words into the interpretation,which does not make sense.You must have another bible.

The sriptures are clear;you will see the son of man in the –CLOUDS– of heaven with power and gtreat glory.
( IN THE SKY).

There are no clouds in heaven where God is.

Lightning= a flash of light; in an instant.

August 22, 2012 at 4:30 pm#310167

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Terra.

Mat.24:27. For as the lightning comes out of the east,and shineth even to the west: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

As you can see; the coming Will not be gradual;it will be in an instant,like the lightning.

wakeup.

like lightning ;does not mean in speed ,in that scripture it mean that it will be seen all over the globe,not only in one place ,I am surprised that you do not know this

Terra.

Then shall appear the son of man in heaven.

His appearing will not be gradual,it will be in an instant.

wakeup.

Wup

His appearance his in heaven ,this means that we will understand his presence through the words he spooked to his disciples,and the fulfillment of those words

Terra.

You are putting your own words into the interpretation,which does not make sense.You must have another bible.

The scriptures are clear;you will see the son of man in the –CLOUDS– of heaven with power and great glory.
( IN THE SKY).

There are no clouds in heaven where God is.

Lightning= a flash of light; in an instant.

wup

like ,like, like ,,,,,lightening

the clouds took him away ,he comes back the same way so we will not see him with our physical eyes, but with the eyes of understanding

August 22, 2012 at 9:27 pm#310184

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Terra.

Mat.24:27. For as the lightning comes out of the east,and shineth even to the west: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

As you can see; the coming Will not be gradual;it will be in an instant,like the lightning.

wakeup.

like lightning ;does not mean in speed ,in that scripture it mean that it will be seen all over the globe,not only in one place ,I am surprised that you do not know this

Terra.

Then shall appear the son of man in heaven.

His appearing will not be gradual,it will be in an instant.

wakeup.

Wup

His appearance his in heaven ,this means that we will understand his presence through the words he spooked to his disciples,and the fulfillment of those words

Terra.

You are putting your own words into the interpretation,which does not make sense.You must have another bible.

The scriptures are clear;you will see the son of man in the –CLOUDS– of heaven with power and great glory.
( IN THE SKY).

There are no clouds in heaven where God is.

Lightning= a flash of light; in an instant.

wup

like ,like, like ,,,,,lightening

the clouds took him away ,he comes back the same way so we will not see him with our physical eyes, but with the eyes of understanding

Terra.

Yes; as lightning, And how quick does lightning go?
Very quick;not gradual,not step by step slowly.

Every eye shall see; this means EVERY EYE, even the non believers will see him coming also.
So it is not with the spiritual eye. You are wrong again.

So you are putting your own words to the scriptures.

wakeup.

August 22, 2012 at 11:11 pm#310202

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Terra.

Mat.24:27. For as the lightning comes out of the east,and shineth even to the west: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

As you can see; the coming Will not be gradual;it will be in an instant,like the lightning.

wakeup.

like lightning ;does not mean in speed ,in that scripture it mean that it will be seen all over the globe,not only in one place ,I am surprised that you do not know this

Terra.

Then shall appear the son of man in heaven.

His appearing will not be gradual,it will be in an instant.

wakeup.

Wup

His appearance his in heaven ,this means that we will understand his presence through the words he spooked to his disciples,and the fulfillment of those words

Terra.

You are putting your own words into the interpretation,which does not make sense.You must have another bible.

The scriptures are clear;you will see the son of man in the –CLOUDS– of heaven with power and great glory.
( IN THE SKY).

There are no clouds in heaven where God is.

Lightning= a flash of light; in an instant.

wup

like ,like, like ,,,,,lightening

the clouds took him away ,he comes back the same way so we will not see him with our physical eyes, but with the eyes of understanding

Terra.

Yes; as lightning, And how quick does lightning go?
Very quick;not gradual,not step by step slowly.

Every eye shall see; this means EVERY EYE, even the non believers will see him coming also.
So it is not with the spiritual eye. You are wrong again.

So you are putting your own words to the scriptures.

wakeup.

wup

you still do not getting it ;

Mat.24:27. For- AS- the lightning comes out of the -EAST-,and shineth even to the -WEST-: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

SEE IT TELLS YOU HOW BIG IT WILL BE –

NOT HOW FAST IT WILL BE

August 23, 2012 at 12:56 am#310210

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Terra.

Mat.24:27. For as the lightning comes out of the east,and shineth even to the west: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

As you can see; the coming Will not be gradual;it will be in an instant,like the lightning.

wakeup.

like lightning ;does not mean in speed ,in that scripture it mean that it will be seen all over the globe,not only in one place ,I am surprised that you do not know this

Terra.

Then shall appear the son of man in heaven.

His appearing will not be gradual,it will be in an instant.

wakeup.

Wup

His appearance his in heaven ,this means that we will understand his presence through the words he spooked to his disciples,and the fulfillment of those words

Terra.

You are putting your own words into the interpretation,which does not make sense.You must have another bible.

The scriptures are clear;you will see the son of man in the –CLOUDS– of heaven with power and great glory.
( IN THE SKY).

There are no clouds in heaven where God is.

Lightning= a flash of light; in an instant.

wup

like ,like, like ,,,,,lightening

the clouds took him away ,he comes back the same way so we will not see him with our physical eyes, but with the eyes of understanding

Terra.

Yes; as lightning, And how quick does lightning go?
Very quick;not gradual,not step by step slowly.

Every eye shall see; this means EVERY EYE, even the non believers will see him coming also.
So it is not with the spiritual eye. You are wrong again.

So you are putting your own words to the scriptures.

wakeup.

wup

you still do not getting it ;

Mat.24:27. For- AS- the lightning comes out of the -EAST-,and shineth even to the -WEST-: So shall also the coming of the son of man be.

SEE IT TELLS YOU HOW BIG IT WILL BE –

NOT HOW FAST IT WILL BE

Terra.

Oh boy; Rev.1:7.

Behold,HE COME WITH COUDS,AND EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM,AND THEY ALSO WHICH PIERCED HIM: AND ALL KINDREDS OF THE EARTH SHALL WAIL BECAUSE OF HIM. EVEN SO AMEN.

So not only seen with the eye of understanding; as you say it will be. You are wrong.

He will come as the lightning from the east to the west.
Quick and in an instant.
It does not –only– mean it will be seen all over the earth,because it said that already.(every eye shall see).
(seen all over the earth).

It does not mean how big it will be;it says that already.(every eyes shall see;this is how big it will be).

You are putting your words into scripture,and you are judging me.

wakeup.

August 23, 2012 at 1:29 am#310217

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Terra.

Oh boy; Rev.1:7.

Behold,HE COME WITH COUDS,AND EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM,AND THEY ALSO WHICH PIERCED HIM: AND ALL KINDREDS OF THE EARTH SHALL WAIL BECAUSE OF HIM. EVEN SO AMEN.

So not only seen with the eye of understanding; as you say it will be. You are wrong.

It does not mean how big it will be;it says that already.(every eyes shall see;this is how big it will be).

You are putting your words into scripture,and you are judging me.

wakeup.

yeah ,I can see ,all the things you are missing in your understanding ,but it is not for me to make it you to believe ,

we have nothing more to say from here on , just keep reading ,

August 23, 2012 at 1:57 am#310220

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Terra.

Oh boy; Rev.1:7.

Behold,HE COME WITH COUDS,AND EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM,AND THEY ALSO WHICH PIERCED HIM: AND ALL KINDREDS OF THE EARTH SHALL WAIL BECAUSE OF HIM. EVEN SO AMEN.

So not only seen with the eye of understanding; as you say it will be. You are wrong.

It does not mean how big it will be;it says that already.(every eyes shall see;this is how big it will be).

You are putting your words into scripture,and you are judging me.

wakeup.

yeah ,I can see ,all the things you are missing in your understanding ,but it is not for me to make it you to believe ,

we have nothing more to say from here on , just keep reading ,

Terra.

You just can not admit that you were wrong.
Your pride is in the way. How can you ever get knowledge?

wakeup.

August 23, 2012 at 2:13 am#310222

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8 > And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His COMING

what his the SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH ,means
and what is THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING means

please answer those questions for me

Terra.

The spirit of his mouth means that he created everything with his word.
He commands and it is done.

The brightness of his coming means that when he appears; the sky will be like the sun.

wake up.

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Terra.

The spirit of his mouth means that he created everything with his word.
He commands and it is done.

The brightness of his coming means that when he appears; the sky will be like the sun.

wake up.

please read this following scriptures ;

2Th 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,

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Christ return will be progressive not intant ,to me any way,so his light will shine in the dark once more ,until the full clear light of the day ,wen truth will be understood without a doubt .from all believers and unbelievers alike

Can you please explain more clearly how Christ's return will be progressive? I don't understand. Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

August 23, 2012 at 2:29 am#310223

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Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Hi Georgie,

Christ returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing;” (John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

August 23, 2012 at 4:19 am#310239

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Can you please explain more clearly how Christ's return will be progressive? I don't understand. Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

can you understand that God as a plan and in no way anyone can change that plan ,the time it takes to be accomplish will be the time it takes, it is God who run all things not men.

the coming of Christ was announced century's before he came in the flesh ,and it was called the day,on that day; yet we all know now that that day was 3.5 years ,Christ talked about the end of the age ;what it means is all times are divided by ages

the time that God took to finalising the punishment on the nation of Israel and there corrupted priesthood took 37 years after God son , announce it ,

Christ talks about the light that shines in the dark ,but he also said that the time comes when it will be out ,we now know it went out with the last apostle John,about 100 AD but we know as well that the scriptures were there and was the light of the nation ,how is that and why

when you read scriptures why is it that you have to assume that it is that and not this ,are you not gambling on Gods word,???

let look at the two scriptures on hand here ;
2Th 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,

in verse 8;AND THE LAWLESS ONE WILL BE REVEALED; THEN ; WHOM THE LORD JESUS WILL OVERTHROW ;;THEN ;; WITH THE BREATH OF HIS MOUTH,;; THEN ;; AND DESTROY BY THE SPLENDOUR OF HIS COMING;

you assume that the lawless one will be revealed in one day 24 hours ???it does not say that .

whom Jesus overthrow ;but he did not say how long it will take to do that , right

now Jesus is said he will do it with he breath of his mouth ,right but that mean did Christ not say that his words he speaks are life

and the destruction of the lawless will be done ; by the splendour of his coming ; what is this mean???

you have to start looking at scriptures with a pure heart ,you are missing a lot.

August 23, 2012 at 5:29 am#310251

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Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Hi Georgie,

Christ returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing;” (John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No he didn't ed.

August 23, 2012 at 5:48 am#310255

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Can you please explain more clearly how Christ's return will be progressive? I don't understand. Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Pierre

Thanks for your explanation.

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can you understand that God as a plan and in no way anyone can change that plan ,the time it takes to be accomplish will be the time it takes, it is God who run all things not men.

Yes, I agree

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the coming of Christ was announced century's before he came in the flesh

Yes it was

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,and it was called the day,on that day; yet we all know now that that day was 3.5 years ,Christ talked about the end of the age ;what it means

is all times are divided by ages

This is where you have lost me.
What day was 3.5years?
and what is the end of the age according to your knowledge?
Time divided by ages? I don't know what you mean?

August 23, 2012 at 5:50 am#310256

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Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Hi Georgie,

Christ returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing;” (John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No he didn't ed.

Edj

Christ said when he leaves, he will send the comforter, the holy spirit.

August 23, 2012 at 5:58 am#310260

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Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Hi Georgie,

Christ returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing;” (John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J

No he didn't ed.

Edj

Christ said when he leaves, he will send the comforter, the holy spirit.

Hi Georgie; Jesus also said…

“If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

August 23, 2012 at 7:47 am#310267

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This is where you have lost me.
What day was 3.5years?
and what is the end of the age according to your knowledge?
Time divided by ages? I don't know what you mean?

What day was 3.5years? those following scriptures should answer this question ;THE DAY OF THE LORD (CHRIST)

ISA 13:6 Wail, for the day of the LORD is near!
It will come as destruction from the Almighty.
ISA 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
Cruel, with fury and burning anger,
To make the land a desolation;
And He will exterminate its sinners from it.

JOEL 2:1 Blow a trumpet in Zion,
And sound an alarm on My holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
For the day of the LORD is coming;
Surely it is near,
JOEL 2:11 The LORD utters His voice before His army;
Surely His camp is very great,
For strong is he who carries out His word.
The day of the LORD is indeed great and very awesome,
And who can endure it?
JOEL 2:31 “The sun will be turned into darkness
And the moon into blood
Before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes.
JOEL 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision!
For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
AM 5:18
Alas, you who are longing for the day of the LORD,
For what purpose will the day of the LORD be to you?

and what is the end of the age according to your knowledge? well this is my question to you

is Time divided by ages? read those scriptures and think.

1CO 2:7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
1CO 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
EPH 2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
HEB 9:26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
MT 12:32 “ Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:40 “So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age.
MT 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

MK 10:30 but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life.

I don't know what you mean? DO YOU NOW

August 23, 2012 at 7:53 am#310270

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j42

what is the end of the age according to your knowledge?

DO YOU NOW

August 23, 2012 at 5:29 pm#310319

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Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Hi Georgie,

Christ returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing;” (John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

Are you quickeneth Ed?
Can you just zoom up here and we can discus face to face; if I can see you,for I can not see spirits.

So you have been quickeneth;gone through the resurrection huh? Then why still need a computer?

wakeup.

August 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm#310322

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Is there a day when Christ returns or not?

Hi Georgie,

Christ returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing;” (John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

Are you quickeneth Ed?

wakeup.

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Are you quickenened, Ed?

Yep.

“Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.” (Rom.4:25)
“You, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quick-
ened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;” (Col 2:13)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

August 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm#310331

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j42

what is the end of the age according to your knowledge?

DO YOU NOW

edj

according to your understanding I know you do not know ,

but ,I have some understanding in Gods word.

August 23, 2012 at 7:55 pm#310332