THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 21 2012,04:51)

Hi Wakeup, Quote The woman is zion; Look it up my friend,  Zion is a place.  Another name for Jerusalem. It is not a people as you understand. Jesus was born for the people of Israel. Did He not say, MATTHEW 15:24 †  But he answered and said, I am not sent BUT unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He came for them and they rejected Him.   God's true Christian people (Bride)(wise virgin) will come out of all the world, as a bride adorned for her husband. God Bless Marlin

Marlin1.

Can you explain rev.21:2 then?

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 21 2012,07:43)

Can you explain rev.21:2?

Hi Wakeup, I can…

                         Rev.21:2-3 is a reference to to God's “Feast of Tabernacles”

Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
                                                                                (86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[Marlin1]

Quote

Rev.21:2-3 is a reference to to God's “Feast of Tabernacles”

Hi Ed J,

I believe the Feast of Tabernacles is the 7th day, during the Millennium.

Rev 21:2-3 is speaking of the 8th day.  Holy Convocation..
Eternity…..

The Gentile Bride will be with their Lord for eternity.

God Bless
Marlin

[Wakeup]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 21 2012,16:20)

Quote Rev.21:2-3 is a reference to to God's “Feast of Tabernacles” Hi Ed J, I believe the Feast of Tabernacles is the 7th day, during the Millennium. Rev 21:2-3 is speaking of the 8th day.  Holy Convocation.. Eternity….. The Gentile Bride will be with their Lord for eternity. God Bless Marlin

Marlin1.

Is holy jerusalem,coming–DOWN–from heaven the bride of christ.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Marlin,

    …It's nice to see that we are all learning here!
The son of perdition is Lucifer. (see Isaiah 14:12-20)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,00:55)

Hi Marlin,     …It's nice to see that we are all learning here! The son of perdition is Lucifer. (see Isaiah 14:12-20) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

The son of perdition is not lucifer; for he is the father of the son of perdition.Lucifer is his father.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,02:41)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,00:55) Hi Marlin, The son of perdition is Lucifer. (see Isaiah 14:12-20) God bless Ed J EDJ. The son of perdition is not lucifer; for he is the father of the son of perdition.Lucifer is his father. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Please tell me you are really a sane person,
because this is not what you said yesterday.

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 21 2012,01:37)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,01:20) Hi Wakeup. The 'son of perdition' is Lucifer. (see Isaiah 14:12-20) God bless Ed J EDJ. Yes I agree with you in this, but he always uses a person(flesh) to do his work. He used a snake in the garden,because there were no other humans but adam and eve. He uses the king of babylon in isiah14:4—22. And in EZekiel 28:12 –19. he uses the king of tyre. He is called the dragon now. And after the 1000yrs he will be called gog,the chief prince of magog,and meshech and tubal.ez.38. I know you dont agree with this. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Have you changed your mind already in only 10 posts?

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,03:11)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 21 2012,01:37) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,01:20) Hi Wakeup. The 'son of perdition' is Lucifer. (see Isaiah 14:12-20) God bless Ed J EDJ. Yes I agree with you in this, but he always uses a person(flesh) to do his work. He used a snake in the garden,because there were no other humans but adam and eve. He uses the king of babylon in isiah14:4—22. And in EZekiel 28:12 –19. he uses the king of tyre. He is called the dragon now. And after the 1000yrs he will be called gog,the chief prince of magog,and meshech and tubal.ez.38. I know you dont agree with this. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Have you changed your mind already in only 10 posts? עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

EDJ.

I dont change my mind.

The king of tyre is just a man,but satan is in him.
and so will be the son of perdition,he is just a man ,but satan in him.See EZ.28:12—
ISIAH 14:4. The king of babylon.
satan in all of them,and also the false prophet.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

The bible says Isaiah 14:11-20 is about Lucifer (MYSTERY BABYLON), do you agree?

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev 17:5)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

[Marlin1]

Quote

Is holy jerusalem,coming–DOWN–from heaven the bride of christ. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

New Jerusalem is the Gentile Bride of Christ.

God Bless
Marlin

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:03)

Hi Wakeup, The bible says Isaiah 14:11-20 is about Lucifer (MYSTERY BABYLON), do you agree? “And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev 17:5) Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDJ.

yes the king of babylon is indeed satan but he always uses a person of his choice,a person that can be looked upon.(flesh)

So is the ASSYRIAN,he is also satan in a person,all evil kings are manipulated by statan.
If a person lives an evil life,he is the child of the devil.
Jesus said it himself; ''he said ,you are of your father the devil.''

The false prophet is the son of the devil.
The devil will not be cast into the lake of fire at the coming,only the beast and the false prophet will be.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,04:19)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:03) Hi Wakeup, The bible says Isaiah 14:11-20 is about Lucifer (MYSTERY BABYLON), do you agree? “And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev 17:5) Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) EDJ. yes the king of babylon is indeed satan but he always uses a person… wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

GREAT, we may be getting somewhere!   …try to explain Isaiah 14:19-20 then.    …never heard even one preacher touch this one!

Isaiah 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:30)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,04:19) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:03) Hi Wakeup, The bible says Isaiah 14:11-20 is about Lucifer (MYSTERY BABYLON), do you agree? “And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev 17:5) Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) EDJ. yes the king of babylon is indeed satan but he always uses a person… wakeup. Hi Wakeup, GREAT, we may be getting somewhere!   …try to explain Isaiah 14:19-20 then.    …never heard even one preacher touch this one! Isaiah 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDJ.

Isiah 14. God is taking a lamentation against the king of babylon(satan ), and God is just telling him what his end would be,and that he was very proud;and the evil ideas he has in his heart,and that he wanted to be like God,but God says I will destroy you,and you will not even be burried with your subjects.

The king of babylon is the invisible satan,but his man at that time is flesh,can be seen.

In Ez.28. also a lamentation against the king of tyre.
in verse 9. he says I am God; but God said you are a man.

in verse 18. it looks like God is going to materialise satan so all the people can see him,than turn him into ashes.

19. And them that are familiar with him will be astonished to see him in that condition.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup, (I believe this is VERY IMPORTANT)

Let me instead ask you  “specific questions”  regarding these two verses; OK?    …if yes I will start a new thread

Isa 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,05:57)

Hi Wakeup, (I believe this is VERY IMPORTANT) Let me instead ask you  “specific questions”  regarding these two verses; OK?    …if yes I will start a new thread Isa 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. 20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.

Isiah14.
This should not be too hard to understand.
This is God telling satan(lucifer) what is going to happen to him;the ruler of nations,the oppressor that ruled the nations in anger

All will rejoice since he is put away.
And they will say; are you(satan ) also become weak as we?
Satan will be made helpless.

The grave is ready to receive him.
How is the proud one from heaven fallen so low? as low as the pit.

He is the one that made the world a wilderness.

25. That I will break the assyrian(satan)in my land,and upon my holy mountains tread him under foot:Then shall his yoke depart from of them(the oppressed)and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

26. THIS IS THE PURPOSE THAT IS PURPOSED UPON THE WHOLE EARTH: AND THIS IS THE HAND THAT IS STRETCHED
OUT UPON ALL THE NATIONS.

27. FOR THE LORD OF HOST –HATH PURPOSED–, AND WHO SHALL DISANNUL IT?AND HIS HAND IS STRETCHED OUT, WHO SHALL TURN IT BACK?

HERE IS A GOOD ONE ALSO:

29. Rejoice not thou whole palestina(muslem nations),because the rod(israel) that smote thee is broken:
FOR OUT OF THE SERPENTS ROOT (SATANS ROOT) SHALL COME FORTH A COCKATRICE,and –his– fruit(AS ONE) SHALL BE A –FLYING– SERPENT(the false prophet).

30. And the first born of the poor shall shall feed,and the needy shall lie down in safety:(in the 1000yr kingdom)
and I will kill thy –ROOT–(israel) with famine and he(flying serpent shall slay thy remnant.(with war).

The fiery flying serpent (jer.2:36.).

Isiah14:31.–palestine is dissolved: for a smoke shall come –FROM THE NORTH–.(EUROPE).

I am not fast in typing.

greetings.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,05:57)

Hi Wakeup, (I believe this is VERY IMPORTANT) Let me instead ask you  “specific questions”  regarding these two verses; OK?    …if yes I will start a new thread Isa 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. 20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

H Wakeup,

OK, I see you are not interested; perhaps I was wrong about you.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,03:16)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,05:57) Hi Wakeup, (I believe this is VERY IMPORTANT) Let me instead ask you  “specific questions”  regarding these two verses; OK?    …if yes I will start a new thread Isa 14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. 20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) H Wakeup, OK, I see you are not interested; perhaps I was wrong about you. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

I have done my best,now you should explain.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,03:21)

Ed J. I have done my best, now you should explain. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup, (Link to new thread)

I have started a thread as I have suggested,
since you did not disprove, I took that as a “YES”!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,04:08)

Quote Is holy jerusalem,coming–DOWN–from heaven the bride of christ. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, New Jerusalem is the Gentile Bride of Christ. God Bless Marlin

Marlin1.

Scripture please.

wakeup.

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