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No no I'm asking you that there is no mention of such words as you quoted above that “we will be risen with the same Spirit which was in Jesus”
Quote 1Peter3
18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:Rom8
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.Hebrews 13:5
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.Acts 2
31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.1 Peter 3 … Christ remained dead in the grave until he was quickened by the spirit of GOD 3 days later
Rom 8 … The spirit of GOD raise Christ from the dead after 3 days; likewise no matter how long someone is dead, whether years, decades, centuries, millenniums; the spirit of GOD which raised Christ from the dead, shall raise the righteous dead through Christ at his Coming.
Hebrew 13:5 GOD will never leave us.
However the dead know nothing at all; so no matter how long they have been dead, they will not even be “conscious” of the fact that they are dead. So Heb 13.5 in reality applies to the living, besides the obvious fact that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. [Matt 22.32]
To the dead, the moment they close their eyes; their next “conscious” moment will be their resurrection!Acts 2 … No! Christ was not left in the grave
(Christ is a soul, soul = person; so we are souls/persons, soul = YOU)
So, he was not left in the grave, neither did his flesh see corruption!
Why? Because after 3 days GOD raised him from the dead.All the rest of the dead, however, are still in the grave, still dead!.
Dead souls/persons remain in the grave and see corruption, e.g. Acts 2.29,13.36.
Nevertheless at Christ's Coming, all the righteous dead including David; will be raised from the dead, immortalized & given new bodies, just like Christ's.
It is then at Christ's Coming that the righteous dead will be conscious, raised by the spirit of GOD/Christ; have new tents/bodies; and not before!!The Biblical scheme is really simple.
We die i.e. sleep the sleep of death until we are awaken by resurrection.
The dead know nothing, are conscious of nothing, feel nothing.
We are souls. We are entirely mortal.
When we die, our breath returns to GOD.
“spirit” = “breath”
That is all that the Scripture means, when it speaks of the “spirit” returning to GOD.
Nothing more, nothing less!At the First Resurrection, the righteous will be “awaken out of sleep” i.e. will be raised from the dead & given new, immortal, incorruptible bodies.
The rest of the dead “sleep on” until after a 1000 years. [Rev 20.5]It is that simple. Let's not complicate things.
Hi brother AP, thanks for your post on resurrection of the dead but please answer my query that I have raisen to our brother Nick ; whether we will be risen with God's Spirit or with our own spirit which will return to God on our death ?
Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 15 2008,12:41) Hi brother AP, thanks for your post on resurrection of the dead but please answer my query that I have raisen to our brother Nick ; whether we will be risen with God's Spirit or with our own spirit which will return to God on our death ?
I will PM you now, I don't want to go off-topic.Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 15 2008,22:20) Hi brother you have not answered me what part of him 'came down from heaven' even Adam was taken from earth as it says ; is it literal coming down as a person or some portion of the man Jesus came down ?
Hi brother AP,
This is the question I have put to NH as he always like to quote 'Jesus is the man from heaven and was preexisting' what do say on this ?Hi AP,
Of course there are those who are dead as dodos
and those who yet live to God.Abraham rejoiced to see the coming of Jesus.
He explained the sad news to the rich man
He spoke with Jesus on the mountain.Jesus spoke of those who live and believe in him
who never die.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,14:39) Hi,
Jesus Christ is the man from heaven.
There have been none there before he ascended[Dan 7]
Hi NickAre you answering people that haven't been on here for 8 years or so?
Just curious.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2014,04:33) Hi J42,
We were on the subject a few days ago.
Ok, thanks Nick.
It's just that you are all over the place and I can't follow the conversation.Hi,
Rom 10
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2014,04:31) Hi,
Rom 10
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Nickwhat is your take on that scripture ,??? or it just mean what it says
but if so why saying it
Hi,
Eph 4
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
ONCE
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2014,10:14) Hi,
Eph 4
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
ONCE
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4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,But we can see that today the Word is preached in many different ways.
Therefore is called Babylon the great.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2014,05:11) Hi t,
Jesus has done these things so only a doubter would say WHO SHALL and so insult the Master.
NickRight agree
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2014,05:14) Hi,
Eph 4
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
ONCE
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All of those scriptures confirm all of what Paul as ever preached in Colossians 1:15-21
And that is that Christ came
from heaven and return to heaven
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