The Man from heaven

[gollamudi]

Jesus the glorified man with a spiritual body lives in heaven sitting at the right hand of God.

[NickHassan]

Hi Gm,
The man from heaven is the son of man who originally came from heaven.

[gollamudi]

This is the question I am repeatedly putting to you, how did Jesus came down from heaven if he was conceived like you and me? Can any son of man be living prior to Jesus' ascention?

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
A body was prepared for him.

Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says,” SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED,BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME;

[gollamudi]

Hi brother it talks about Jesus' human birth stating how God formed him in the womb of Mary. I don't see any difference because he was really conceived like you and me. No incarnation here which believes a preexisting soul enters a new body which bible don't say.

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
Ps 139 rather shows the soul being aware of the formation of the body.

[gollamudi]

Brother it is a prophesy by the Spirit of God about the Messiah I think I have already debated on this earlier. No soul of Jesus was talking here to prophets. Son never spoke to Israelites in the past as mentioned in Heb 1:1.

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
The Spirit of Christ spoke with and through the prophets.[1Peter1]

Psalm 22:1
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

[gollamudi]

So there you are with my understanding that the Spirit of Christ is the portion of Jesus that was received from God by coming down but not any preexisting man as you are claiming.

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
So the anointing of Christ was what came from heaven?
That anointing is the Spirit of God.

Do you believe the Spirit of God then was the Word that was with God?
Was God WITH His own Spirit?

[gollamudi]

Hi brother Nick,
You are forgetting that 'word' is an attribute or an expression of God. I beleive Jesus is the fulfillment of Is 55:11

“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it”.

God's word had dwelled in person Jesus and is permanently living in him that's why he is called as 'the word of God' now. He is a separate person apart from God now. I think you accept this truth that Jesus is the vessel for that One and only God, a body for Him to live in bodily form as per Col 2:9

“For in him dwells the whole fullness of the deity 4 bodily”

Peace to you
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
That is why he is the Word ,now but it does not explain Jn1 and 1Jn1

[gollamudi]

Why not?
The 'word' is the very expression of God that was with Him is the 'word of life' explained by John in 1 Jn 1:1-2

1 “What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we looked upon and touched with our hands concerns the Word of life–
2 for the life was made visible; we have seen it and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was made visible to us”

That word of life belongs to God Himself but not any person apart from that One God which God made all this univesrse as per Ps 33:6

“By the LORD'S word the heavens were made; by the breath of his mouth all their host”.

I hope this explains fully Jn 1:1 or Jn 1 to you.
Thanks
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
So in what form was this EXPRESSION of God?
Phil 2 says of Jesus he was in the form of God.

[gollamudi]

Expression of God will be Himself not different from Him.

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
Really?
Are you your words?

[gollamudi]

So what else my brother then you make two Gods in the beginning?

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
Let scripture speak and do not stifle it.

[gollamudi]

Same think I ask all of you here.

[NickHassan]

Hi Gm,
So does Jn1 say you have two Gods?
Then relax

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