The lord is with us,and no evil can

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
First rebirth

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,13:22)

Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2014,09:40) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,23:40) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,22:07) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,19:04) Yes Wakeup, We are born again by “The Word”, which is God's HolySpirit. God bless Ed J This is a long process. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Does this growth process not begin with our spiritual re-birth? God bless Ed J This question, please answer You start with the milk, and you will be guided by the spirit *a measure at the time*. As you read a little you will be given a little,untill you have been given the full dose.This does not happen overnight. It takes years of reading. It's a life time process. You have stayed on the milk for some reason.If there is no growth;it will be taken away from you. The closer you come to God;the closer God will come to you. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Is that a “Yes” answer”
          – or –
is that a “No” answer ?

I SAY “Yes” it does, what say you?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2014,14:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,13:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2014,09:40) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,23:40) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,22:07) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,19:04) Yes Wakeup, We are born again by “The Word”, which is God's HolySpirit. God bless Ed J This is a long process. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Does this growth process not begin with our spiritual re-birth? God bless Ed J This question, please answer You start with the milk, and you will be guided by the spirit *a measure at the time*. As you read a little you will be given a little,untill you have been given the full dose.This does not happen overnight. It takes years of reading. It's a life time process. You have stayed on the milk for some reason.If there is no growth;it will be taken away from you. The closer you come to God;the closer God will come to you. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Is that a “Yes” answer”           – or – is that a “No” answer ? I SAY “Yes” it does, what say you? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

If you insist,the answer is NO.
Read about the apostles,they have not the Holy Spirit
untill later;after so long with Jesus.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
So you do not have to be reborn to see the kingdom?

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,16:52)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,23:40) Hi Wakeup, Does this growth process not begin with our spiritual re-birth? God bless Ed J If you insist,the answer is NO. Read about the apostles,they have not the Holy Spirit untill later;after so long with Jesus. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Know that there were 120 in the upper room that received God's HolySpirit
on Pentecost, being Born Again, along with the Apostles. (see James 1:18)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
So gaining knowledge by being with him and listening to him did not give them the Holy Spirit?
So why do you teach that knowledge is the key?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,17:10)

Hi WU, So you do not have to be reborn to see the kingdom?

You must seek first untill you have shown your interest.
Then the Lord will make up His mind what to do with you.
The HS is not cheaply given to anybody.
As you think.Like giving lollies.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
This is new.

He said he came to save sinners and not the righteous.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2014,18:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,16:52) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,23:40) Hi Wakeup, Does this growth process not begin with our spiritual re-birth? God bless Ed J If you insist,the answer is NO. Read about the apostles,they have not the Holy Spirit untill later;after so long with Jesus. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Know that there were 120 in the upper room that received God's HolySpirit on Pentecost, being Born Again, along with the Apostles. (see James 1:18) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Yes; they were the first of the church of God.
Jews and gentiles.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
So nobody needs to repent and you can save yourself.
It does sound like a wider road

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,19:00)

Hi WU, So gaining knowledge by being with him and listening to him did not give them the Holy Spirit? So why do you teach that knowledge is the key?

Still can not understand?

Knowledge comes from above.
Without the HS one can not understand;like the apostles
before they received the HS.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Knowledge is a snare
Anyone can read a book and imagine that they have become inspired because of what they learn

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,10:07)

Hi WU, So nobody needs to repent and you can save yourself. It does sound like a wider road

Yes; Jesus came for sinners;for them to be delivered
from their sins,by following His commandments.
Without obedience there is no mercy.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,13:25)

Hi WU, First rebirth

Not physical rebirth.
1.Born of the flesh.out of the belly.
2.Born of mother zion; her belly,spiritually,
3.No more birth.

The word AGAIN means only twice.not three times or more;
as you claim.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
You must be reborn to see the kingdom.
Then you might teach

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,10:15)

Hi WU, Knowledge is a snare Anyone can read a book and imagine that they have become inspired because of what they learn

True knowledge is a great treasure.
False knowledge is a snare.

That is exactly what has been going on for years.
The scriptures must be interpreted in harmony.
Without any contradictions;then you know that the HS
has opened your understanding.

If not in harmony;then it is the spirit of the world.
The bad seed has been planted in the mind.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

hi WU,
Only the Spirit can unlock the Spiritual.
But some assume too soon that this has occurred

They usually also assume they are infallible too.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,10:32)

hi WU, Only the Spirit can unlock the Spiritual. But some assume too soon that this has occurred They usually also assume they are infallible too.

What are you on about?

As I said ;knowledge comes from above.
Without seeking;the HS will not be given.
If any contradictions is found in interpretations;
one needs to find the true answer, by seeking some more.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Daniel said knowledge will increase.
Are you suggesting it is all a fruit of the Spirit?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,11:33)

Hi WU, Daniel said knowledge will increase. Are you suggesting it is all a fruit of the Spirit?

Yes; He said that;but you are thinking of spiritual knowledge.
Knowledge shal increase and people will to and fro.

Amos 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

wakeup.

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