The lord is the spirit

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  • #278123
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,
    His kingdom is OF heaven.

    #278124
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,
    Jesus CHRIST is already come in the flesh.
    He is now not of flesh.

    Now the Lord is the Spirit.

    Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh yet now we know him thus no longer” 2cor5

    #278141
    terraricca
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    nick

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    Now the Lord is the Spirit.

    no the Lord is A spirit now

    #278146
    NickHassan
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    Hi T
    2Cor 3
    17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit

    #278212
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,15:22)
    Hi T
    2Cor 3
    17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit


    Nick

    sorry, but the spirit that Paul talk is the teaching in the ministry

    face of Moses because of its glory, fading though it was,
    2Co 3:8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?
    2Co 3:9 If the ministry that condemns men is glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness!
    2Co 3:10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory.
    2Co 3:11 And if what was fading away came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!
    2Co 3:12 Therefore, since we have such a hope, we are very bold.
    2Co 3:13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away.
    2Co 3:14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
    2Co 3:15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
    2Co 3:16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
    2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
    2Co 3:18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

    so your scripture is only telling half the story

    #278220
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    The Spirit now reveals God and His plans for us.
    brighter and brighter is the light

    #278223
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,19:01)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit now reveals God and His plans for us.
    brighter and brighter is the light


    nick

    :D :D :D

    yes but it is the understanding that grows,that is the spirit

    #278254
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    The Spirit does more than give understanding.
    I can do all things through Him Who strengthens me

    #278264
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,21:27)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit does more than give understanding.
    I can do all things through Him Who strengthens me


    Nick

    are doing miracles like Christ and his apostles ????

    #278266
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,
    We should all be able to.

    #278267
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,22:34)
    Hi t,
    We should all be able to.


    Nick

    it seems no one does any ,so we all have little faith ????

    or we are not called from God for a specific work Like the saint were and Jesus

    #278272
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Yes the roles differ.

    #278303
    Ed J
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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2012,12:05)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,19:01)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit now reveals God and His plans for us.
    brighter and brighter is the light


    nick

    :D  :D  :D

    yes but it is the understanding that grows,that is the spirit


    Hi Pierre,

    Agreed, that is the meaning of…

    “The Word” of God grew and multiplied. (Acts 12:24)
    So mightily grew “The Word” of God and prevailed. (Acts 19:20)
    “The sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” (Ephesians 6:17)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278305
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,00:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2012,12:05)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,19:01)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit now reveals God and His plans for us.
    brighter and brighter is the light


    nick

    :D  :D  :D

    yes but it is the understanding that grows,that is the spirit


    Hi Pierre,

    Agreed, that is the meaning of…

    “The Word” of God grew and multiplied. (Acts 12:24)
    So mightily grew “The Word” of God and prevailed. (Acts 19:20)
    “The sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” (Ephesians 6:17)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    :)

    #278306
    terraricca
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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,00:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,00:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2012,12:05)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2012,19:01)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit now reveals God and His plans for us.
    brighter and brighter is the light


    nick

    :D  :D  :D

    yes but it is the understanding that grows,that is the spirit


    Hi Pierre,

    Agreed, that is the meaning of…

    “The Word” of God grew and multiplied. (Acts 12:24)
    So mightily grew “The Word” of God and prevailed. (Acts 19:20)
    “The sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” (Ephesians 6:17)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    :)


    EDJ

    You are sure that act 12;24 means what you say ??

    #278311
    Ed J
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    Hi Pierre,

    Do you disagree that  “The Word” of God grew and multiplied.” ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278317
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,02:14)
    Hi Pierre,

    Do you disagree that  “The Word” of God grew and multiplied.” ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    the way you make it sound yes I disagree ,read the context and see,

    the word means the scriptures and the gospel was the spirit of the word (written)

    #283339
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Those reborn of the Spirit know the Lord.
    The Lord is the Spirit.
    He will send also the helper from the Father.

    #292756
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    The Lord is in heaven but you can know him now in the Spirit.
    Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.

    #292816
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,00:46)
    The Lord is the Spirit.  What does that mean

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    2 Cor 3
    3 Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you? 2 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 4 Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6 who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10 For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory. 12 Therefore having such a hope, we use great boldness in our speech, 13 and are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the sons of Israel would not look intently at the end of what was fading away. 14 But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. 15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; 16 but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
    NASU

    I believe that this passage is comparing two different covenants with two different approaches to learning God's way for us to follow.  

    The Old Covenant's approach was to follow the written law that was written in stone.  

    The New Covenant approach is to follow what the Holy Spirit is writing on our hearts.

    So, which one will master you? The law written in stone, or the law written on our hearts by the Spirit.  Either the laws written in stone lord over you, or the laws written by the Spirit lord over you.  If you choose the laws written by the Spirit as lording over you, then the lord is the Spirit, not the written.
    That is what my understanding is of this matter.  Any thoughts?

    Kathi


    Kathi,

    What you write sounds true, even if it is not what the passage means.

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