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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,23:39) Hi T,
You are so lost and confused.
NI am impressed with all your scriptures you are using to show me my confusion,
Hi,
Because the Lord is the Spirit the head is in constant relationship with his body on earth.
The living branches are united to the living vine.Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,10:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,22:21) Hi T,
You think truth is lies?
Nthe SPIRIT OF GOD IS ONE THING
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ANOTHER ,
DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS FROM SCRIPTURES
T;Why do you require Scripture for that?
God is Holy; his Spirit is therefore Holy.
Didn't you notice the Holy Spirit is not mentioned by that name in the old testament?
T;
I am incorrect as the Holy Spirit is mentioned a number of times in the Old Testament.
Here are two that call God's Spirit Holy:
Isaiah 63:10
King James Version (KJV)10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
and
Isaiah 63:11
King James Version (KJV)11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?
Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2012,18:10) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,10:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,22:21) Hi T,
You think truth is lies?
Nthe SPIRIT OF GOD IS ONE THING
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ANOTHER ,
DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS FROM SCRIPTURES
T;Why do you require Scripture for that?
God is Holy; his Spirit is therefore Holy.
Didn't you notice the Holy Spirit is not mentioned by that name in the old testament?
ki ALSO believed this until I came across this ;
Ps 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
Isa 63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy spirit within him?KJVthose are the only scriptures I know with the holy spirit
Pierre,
Daniel has a few though it calls it the Spirit of the Holy gods. I believe that god = angels as well as Jehovah in that context.
Daniel 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my God, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying,
and
Daniel 4:9
King James Version (KJV)9 O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.
and
Daniel 4:18
King James Version (KJV)18 This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.
and
Daniel 5:11
King James Version (KJV)11 There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers;
Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2012,20:22) Pierre, Daniel has a few though it calls it the Spirit of the Holy gods. I believe that god = angels as well as Jehovah in that context.
Daniel 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my God, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying,
and
Daniel 4:9
King James Version (KJV)9 O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.
and
Daniel 4:18
King James Version (KJV)18 This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.
and
Daniel 5:11
King James Version (KJV)11 There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers;
KGood,but is it means the same thing
?? As the holy spirit Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2012,13:20) Hi,
Because the Lord is the Spirit the head is in constant relationship with his body on earth.
The living branches are united to the living vine.
NIn other words
??P;
We know the Holy Spirit is called God's spirit because Scripture states it is his. We know that is true even when he places it upon the prophets of old. All but Isaiah 63:10 is speaking of the gifts of the Holy Spirit; and not the new man. Isaiah 63:10 is speaking of God's righteousness and holiness that the new man is created like. The new man is the gift of the new covenant.
Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2012,00:34) P; We know the Holy Spirit is called God's spirit because Scripture states it is his. We know that is true even when he places it upon the prophets of old. All but Isaiah 63:10 is speaking of the gifts of the Holy Spirit; and not the new man. Isaiah 63:10 is speaking of God's righteousness and holiness that the new man is created like. The new man is the gift of the new covenant.
KI wander if you understand what you are trying to communicate
because I can not understand the point you try to make here
T;
Ps 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
Who is “thy”?
Isa 63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy spirit within him?KJV
Who is “he”?
The person that is both “thy” and “he” is Jehovah; and he clearly possesses the Holy Spirit; which means it is his.
In both of these cases as well as the passages from Daniel it is speaking of prophecy; which is a gift of the Spirit; just as it is written:
1 Corinthians 12
King James Version (KJV)7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
This is not speaking of the Holy Spirit distributing gifts to men; but it is speaking of Jehovah’s Holy Spirit being vexed by the rebellious behavior of men. It is the righteous and holy spirit that is vexed by evil behavior. The new man is created like God; having that same Spirit.
Ephesians 4:24
King James Version (KJV)24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
The new man is the gift of the new covenant; as it is written:
Jeremiah 31:33
King James Version (KJV)33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2012,13:37) T; Ps 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
Who is “thy”?
Isa 63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy spirit within him?KJV
Who is “he”?
The person that is both “thy” and “he” is Jehovah; and he clearly possesses the Holy Spirit; which means it is his.
In both of these cases as well as the passages from Daniel it is speaking of prophecy; which is a gift of the Spirit; just as it is written:
1 Corinthians 12
King James Version (KJV)7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
This is not speaking of the Holy Spirit distributing gifts to men; but it is speaking of Jehovah’s Holy Spirit being vexed by the rebellious behavior of men. It is the righteous and holy spirit that is vexed by evil behavior. The new man is created like God; having that same Spirit.
Ephesians 4:24
King James Version (KJV)24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
The new man is the gift of the new covenant; as it is written:
Jeremiah 31:33
King James Version (KJV)33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
KQuote Ps 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. Who is “thy”?
no one ;but the holy spirit comes from God
Quote Isa 63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy spirit within him?KJV Who is “he”?
this is God
Quote The person that is both “thy” and “he” is Jehovah; and he clearly possesses the Holy Spirit; which means it is his. the THY mean s YOUR or from but is not HE
Quote In both of these cases as well as the passages from Daniel it is speaking of prophecy; which is a gift of the Spirit; just as it is written: your conclution is wrong my friend ,at the least one is history
you are making thing s up in your mind ,
Hi,
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.
But we can now know Christ Jesus in the Spirit.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2012,03:04) Hi,
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.
But we can now know Christ Jesus in the Spirit.
NickNo, it also as to be in truth
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,02:12) Hi T,
Everything is NO for you?
Nickyou only ad the one half so I complete it
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,02:53) Hi T,
I see.
You are the completer?
NickNO,but we have to be true to the truth ,and half truth are not the truth right
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