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Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,05:52) Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 06 2012,05:38) Ed… Quote I never said “he” would call himself God (please retract this statement)
Yes you did and you don't even realize it. By YOU saying that muhammad is the false prophet, then you are saying that muhammad calls himself God. Why?
BECAUSE, scripture clearly states that the false prophet WILL call himself GOD!! Just another bump in the road huh Ed?Quote You supply NO EVIDENCE, only your summations.
Please supply some evidence – and then we can discuss it; OK?Thanks Ed.
Hi Devolution,When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Devolution,Are YOU now calling your summations proof? (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Journey.,2Thessalonians 2:3-4 is about 'the son of perdition' (Link),
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad) – they are not the same.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,06:53) Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Journey.,2Thessalonians 2:3-4 is about 'the son of perdition' (Link),
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad) – they are not the same.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.How many false prophets were mentioned in the book of revelation?
Now you are saying that there are more than one false prophets in the book of revelation and 2thess 2.
1.The son of perdition,that called himself God.
2. The false prophet mohamad,that does not call himself God.
—————————————————————–Which one is the false prophet that was cast in the fire in rev19:20? please clarify.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,09:42) EDJ. Now you are saying that there are more than one false prophets in the book of revelation and 2thess 2.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Can you please show me EXACTLY where 'THE FALSE PROPHET' is mentioned in 2Thess2 ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,09:42) EDJ. 1.The son of perdition,that called himself God.
2. The false prophet mohamad,that does not call himself God.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Where exactly is this?
you keep stating this as if it is a fact,
but YOU have yet to produce ANY evidence of such?2) That is correct.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,10:07) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,09:42) EDJ. Now you are saying that there are more than one false prophets in the book of revelation and 2thess 2.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Can you please show me EXACTLY where 'THE FALSE PROPHET' is mentioned in 2Thess2 ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.If he sits in the temple of God and call himself God than he is –THE FALSE PROPHET—.
If —HE— is the false prophet; than it is —HE— that will be burned at the coming.
And that is exactly what 2thess is saying.You need to learn to decerne scriptures.
wakeup.
WUP
Quote Terra. I am just trying to make it clear;that all the world includes all men;every person; All kingdoms.
For a witness means that the gospel will be preached(announced), that the kingdom of God is coming.(let the news come out for all to know).(some will come and believe).
So when it comes; the world will remember what they have heard it preached; and it is the truth.It came true.
But not knowledge; it will come later; during the 1000yrs
teaching,then knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.Not now.It is not only concerns them at that time,because christ said; THEN THE END WILL COME.
wakeup.
THE Gospel has been given to all in the world ,what we do not know is how many have to be saved that are part of the first resurrection ,everyone else will be in the second resurrection .and this his Gods call not men.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,12:43) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,10:07) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,09:42) EDJ. Now you are saying that there are more than one false prophets in the book of revelation and 2thess 2.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Can you please show me EXACTLY where 'THE FALSE PROPHET' is mentioned in 2Thess2 ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.If he sits in the temple of God and call himself God than he is –THE FALSE PROPHET—.
If —HE— is the false prophet; than it is —HE— that will be burned at the coming.
And that is exactly what 2thess is saying.You need to learn to decerne scriptures.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,This seems like the sixth time now, 'the false prophet' is not mentioned in 2Thess2.
Please explain EXACTLY why you believe 'the son of perdition' is (according to you) 'the false prophet'.
I see you continue with useless snap comments.
Quote You need to learn to decerne scriptures. It looks like you are stuck in a rut:
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,12:24) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,10:24) Hi Wakeup, Trying to have a conversation with you is difficult at best,
I will give you a scenario to explain your approach.I ask:
“Where in Scripture do you come up with the idea that 'the false prophet' is (according to you) 'the son of perdition'?And you respond:
Our believe can be identified in the scriptures.
Our believe harmonises with the scriptures.
Our believe is one with the scriptures,can not be seperated.Your believe contradicts all scriptures.
Your believe has no place in scripture.
Your believe is man made.
Your believe leads to destruction.THANK GOD YOUR NIECE (Journey42) DOES NOT USE SUCH A FOOLISH APPROACH TO DIALOG!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Wow; I must have touched a raw nerve.
Sorry buddy,it must have hurt.
wakeup.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2012,12:59) WUP Quote Terra. I am just trying to make it clear;that all the world includes all men;every person; All kingdoms.
For a witness means that the gospel will be preached(announced), that the kingdom of God is coming.(let the news come out for all to know).(some will come and believe).
So when it comes; the world will remember what they have heard it preached; and it is the truth.It came true.
But not knowledge; it will come later; during the 1000yrs
teaching,then knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.Not now.It is not only concerns them at that time,because christ said; THEN THE END WILL COME.
wakeup.
THE Gospel has been given to all in the world ,what we do not know is how many have to be saved that are part of the first resurrection ,everyone else will be in the second resurrection .and this his Gods call not men.
Edj.At the coming:
First the 144000 will meet the Lord in the air.
He will stay in the air untill babylon is destroyed from the air.(satan locked up).Then all the multitudes that has gone through the tribulation,will be given white robes and resurrected.
These are the ones that walk the talk; the ones that worship God and stayed faithful to the end.The rest of the dead stayed in the grave,waiting for the 2nd resurrection.
wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Georgie,2Thess.2 is about 'the son of perdition',
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad).'The son of perdition' is Lucifer under the title name 'i am'. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,13:24) Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Georgie,2Thess.2 is about 'the son of perdition',
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad).'The son of perdition' is Lucifer under the title name 'i am'. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.What would you call a man going around preaching that HE IS GOD?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,13:34) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,13:24) Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Georgie,2Thess.2 is about 'the son of perdition',
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad).'The son of perdition' is Lucifer under the title name 'i am'. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.What would you call a man going around preaching that HE IS GOD?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Mistaken
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,13:38) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,13:34) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,13:24) Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Georgie,2Thess.2 is about 'the son of perdition',
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad).'The son of perdition' is Lucifer under the title name 'i am'. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.What would you call a man going around preaching that HE IS GOD?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Mistaken
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi ED.
You are in strong denial.
In Jesus name come out of it.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,20:14) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2012,12:59) WUP Quote Terra. I am just trying to make it clear;that all the world includes all men;every person; All kingdoms.
For a witness means that the gospel will be preached(announced), that the kingdom of God is coming.(let the news come out for all to know).(some will come and believe).
So when it comes; the world will remember what they have heard it preached; and it is the truth.It came true.
But not knowledge; it will come later; during the 1000yrs
teaching,then knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.Not now.It is not only concerns them at that time,because christ said; THEN THE END WILL COME.
wakeup.
THE Gospel has been given to all in the world ,what we do not know is how many have to be saved that are part of the first resurrection ,everyone else will be in the second resurrection .and this his Gods call not men.
Edj.At the coming:
First the 144000 will meet the Lord in the air.
He will stay in the air untill babylon is destroyed from the air.(satan locked up).Then all the multitudes that has gone through the tribulation,will be given white robes and resurrected.
These are the ones that walk the talk; the ones that worship God and stayed faithful to the end.The rest of the dead stayed in the grave,waiting for the 2nd resurrection.
wakeup.
WupThis is not what scriptures are saying
Your interpretation is wrong,
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2012,13:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 06 2012,20:14) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2012,12:59) WUP Quote Terra. I am just trying to make it clear;that all the world includes all men;every person; All kingdoms.
For a witness means that the gospel will be preached(announced), that the kingdom of God is coming.(let the news come out for all to know).(some will come and believe).
So when it comes; the world will remember what they have heard it preached; and it is the truth.It came true.
But not knowledge; it will come later; during the 1000yrs
teaching,then knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.Not now.It is not only concerns them at that time,because christ said; THEN THE END WILL COME.
wakeup.
THE Gospel has been given to all in the world ,what we do not know is how many have to be saved that are part of the first resurrection ,everyone else will be in the second resurrection .and this his Gods call not men.
Edj.At the coming:
First the 144000 will meet the Lord in the air.
He will stay in the air untill babylon is destroyed from the air.(satan locked up).Then all the multitudes that has gone through the tribulation,will be given white robes and resurrected.
These are the ones that walk the talk; the ones that worship God and stayed faithful to the end.The rest of the dead stayed in the grave,waiting for the 2nd resurrection.
wakeup.
WupThis is not what scriptures are saying
Your interpretation is wrong,
Terra,Please correct me.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 24 2012,00:22) all
Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of Princes, but he shall be broken without hand.
this his Constantine ,but you ignore it ,
Quote but in Revelations he has two horns
because he becomes “THE” World Leader, enforcing his new laws,he can not be a world power ,because his kingdom does not come out of the SEA , SEE SCRIPTURES ,
so it only could be ISLAM two factions and it is also a theocracy , and his misleading anyone that follow it
WHY are they called little horns
with Alexander the Greek,was it not because he was young and so it should be in Rome little horn
Hi Pierre,Alexander was never described as having a little horn
Having a great horn yes
Having a notable horn yes
But never a little horn.Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,13:24) Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 06 2012,06:23) Quote Hi Devolution, When are you going to supply some evidence that the false prophet WILL call himself (according to you) GOD?
Edj
Do you not read the scriptures?
If he is exalting himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, and sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, then wouldn't you say he is calling himself God?2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all decievableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Hi Georgie,2Thess.2 is about 'the son of perdition',
not 'the false prophet'(Muhammad).'The son of perdition' is Lucifer under the title name 'i am'. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Was Muhammad a king? Y/N?
Cheers.
Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 06 2012,19:44) Ed, Was Muhammad a king? Y/N?
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,Is the president of the U.S.A. a king?
Is the Prime minster of Brittan a king?Muhammad was the leader of his people.
A king in the biblical sense is the rulership.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Devolution @ Oct. 07 2012,02:40) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 24 2012,00:22) all
Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of Princes, but he shall be broken without hand.
this his Constantine ,but you ignore it ,
Quote but in Revelations he has two horns
because he becomes “THE” World Leader, enforcing his new laws,he can not be a world power ,because his kingdom does not come out of the SEA , SEE SCRIPTURES ,
so it only could be ISLAM two factions and it is also a theocracy , and his misleading anyone that follow it
WHY are they called little horns
with Alexander the Greek,was it not because he was young and so it should be in Rome little horn
Hi Pierre,Alexander was never described as having a little horn
Having a great horn yes
Having a notable horn yes
But never a little horn.
devoDa 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Da 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.KJVDa 7:7 “After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns.
Da 7:8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfullyDa 8:15 While I, Daniel, was watching the vision and trying to understand it, there before me stood one who looked like a man.
Da 8:16 And I heard a man’s voice from the Ulai calling, “Gabriel, tell this man the meaning of the vision.”
Da 8:17 As he came near the place where I was standing, I was terrified and fell prostrate. “Son of man,” he said to me, “understand that the vision concerns the time of the end.”
Da 8:18 While he was speaking to me, I was in a deep sleep, with my face to the ground. Then he touched me and raised me to my feet.
Da 8:19 He said: “I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end.
Da 8:20 The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia.
Da 8:21 The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king.
Da 8:22 The four horns that replaced the one that was broken off represent four kingdoms that will emerge from his nation but will not have the same power.
Da 8:23 “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of intrigue, will arise.
Da 8:24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people.
Da 8:25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.please show me in those scriptures what I did say was wrong
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