The Literal Son of God

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

I already knew about that site, Asana.
The numbers I give you ARE NOT RANDOM,
they are words and phrases in the “AKJV Bible”.

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,07:58)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,07:15) Last Adam = 71 Moses = 71 Hi BD, Are you suggesting that “Moses” is(?) the last Adam?  If so, you are really confused. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

No, I'm nit suggesting it the numbers are suggesting it because the are words from tha AKJV as you say I thought the Last Adam was Jesus but the numbers show something different

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,09:40)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,07:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,07:15) Last Adam = 71 Moses = 71 Hi BD, Are you suggesting that “Moses” is(?) the last Adam?  If so, you are really confused. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) No, I'm nit suggesting it the numbers are suggesting it because the are words from tha AKJV as you say  I thought the Last Adam was Jesus but the numbers show something different

Hi BD,

Numbers, as you call them, are ONLY one witness; did you not know…
“at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)
Muhammad's only one witness as well, SO HE'S NOT CAPABLE OF ESTABLISHING ANYTHING!

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,09:51)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,09:40) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,07:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,07:15) Last Adam = 71 Moses = 71 Hi BD, Are you suggesting that “Moses” is(?) the last Adam?  If so, you are really confused. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) No, I'm nit suggesting it the numbers are suggesting it because the are words from tha AKJV as you say  I thought the Last Adam was Jesus but the numbers show something different Hi BD, Numbers, as you call them, are ONLY one witness; did you not know… “at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15) Muhammad's only one witness as well, SO HE'S NOT CAPABLE OF ESTABLISHING ANYTHING! עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

who are your witnesses?

Numbers don't have a mouth they are not a witness especially due to the fact that you are causing them to say what you want.

By the way if what you are saying is correct if I show you events in the life of Jesus that lack 3 witnesses does that mean it can't be trusted?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:36)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,09:51) “At the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15) Muhammad's only one witness as well, SO HE'S NOT CAPABLE OF ESTABLISHING ANYTHING! who are your witnesses?

Hi BD, I have listed FOUR here

Mathew, Mark, Paul, and Jesus!
Four do establish the matter of:

1. Death
2. burial
3. Resurrection

Here's one…

Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Here's two…

Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

And here's three…

1 Cor 15:12-14 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

And even a fourth…

Rev 1:17-18 Fear not; I am the first and the last: and was dead; and,
behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:36)

Numbers don't have a mouth they are not a witness

Hi BD,

                        Lucifer(74)  Jesus(74)  Muhammad(74)

Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I(JEHOVAH) divide him(Jesus) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,18:23)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:36) Numbers don't have a mouth they are not a witness Hi BD,                         Lucifer(74)  Jesus(74)  Muhammad(74) Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I(JEHOVAH) divide him(Jesus) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 21 2012,06:29)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,18:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:36) Numbers don't have a mouth they are not a witness Hi BD,                         Lucifer(74)  Jesus(74)  Muhammad(74) Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I(JEHOVAH) divide him(Jesus) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness) ?

he was numbered with the transgressors

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,08:07)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 21 2012,06:29) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,18:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:36) Numbers don't have a mouth they are not a witness Hi BD,                         Lucifer(74)  Jesus(74)  Muhammad(74) Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I(JEHOVAH) divide him(Jesus) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness) ? he was numbered with the transgressors

by whom? Not his disciples but aren't you assuming that the verse you are referring to is about Jesus?

If not tell me why?

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

    Witness#1  Jesus bore our sins. (1John 2:2)
    Witness#2  By pouring out his soul unto death (Phil.2:8)
    Witness#3  he was numbered (Theomatically) with the transgressors.

“At the mouth of three witnesses,
  shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,10:19)

Hi BD,     Witness#1  Jesus bore our sins. (1John 2:2)     Witness#2  By pouring out his soul unto death (Phil.2:8)     Witness#3  he was numbered (Theomatically) with the transgressors. “At the mouth of three witnesses,   shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15) עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

BUT Ed you are a false witness and your theomatics is a farce so how could that count?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 21 2012,12:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,10:19) Hi BD,     Witness#1  Jesus bore our sins. (1John 2:2)     Witness#2  By pouring out his soul unto death (Phil.2:8)     Witness#3  he was numbered (Theomatically) with the transgressors. “At the mouth of three witnesses,   shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15) עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness) BUT Ed you are a false witness and your theomatics is a farce so how could that count?

Spin

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

BD, you really need to learn more about the God you claim to serve!
Witness testimony (Christs Apostles) is permitted in court of law,
as is the testimony of (Ed J) experts in the field of forensics!

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,23:42)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 21 2012,12:47) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,10:19) Hi BD,     Witness#1  Jesus bore our sins. (1John 2:2)     Witness#2  By pouring out his soul unto death (Phil.2:8)     Witness#3  he was numbered (Theomatically) with the transgressors. “At the mouth of three witnesses,   shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15) עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness) BUT Ed you are a false witness and your theomatics is a farce so how could that count? Spin

Hi BD,

1. Witness #1 The Apostle John
2. Witness #2 The Apostle Paul (Shaool)
3. Witness #3 Ed J expert witness in Theomatics

עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[charity]

JESUS IS Number with the transgressors.

Picture Jesus as he is retrieving the gold coin out of the fishes mouth to pay the Tax collector, An maybe a few Day's latter the WORD preaches this sermon!

Mat 25:26

His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that (I reap where I sowed not), and gather where (I have not strawed): Thou oughtest therefore to have put (my money to the exchangers), and [then] at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give [it] unto him which hath ten talents.
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left

was that all in Jesus head while he was the one needing to pay tax,? tax that would benefit him? both the slothful servant an the right face that should have been on the coin?
So Now We end with a Kingdom, with everyone there? an he's going to sort it out!

heaven has second class citizens?

[charity]

sadly I believe 3 witness trump true character.

magistrates are Hired not to find the truth but to choose the best defence. which then depends on the lawyers ability to believe, an act fiercely in defence to resolve.

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 19 2012,14:44)

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 19 2012,08:01) And Jesus said the following: Quote Jhn 3:14   And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:   Jhn 3:15   That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.   Jhn 3:16   For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.   Jhn 3:17   For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.   Jhn 3:18   He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. I never said anything to you about your going to hell.  You don't have to go there if you do not want to go according to these scriptures. Quote Act 17:30   And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:   Act 17:31   Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead.   Act 17:32   And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this [matter].   Love in Christ, Marty Your whole assumption is that I reject Jesus which I have no idea why you would think that as EVERY MUSLIM MUST BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS CHRIST and I have repeated that over and over you cannot even be a Muslim if you don't believe it so how is it you can somehow ignore what I have said over and over. If I say Jesus is not Christ I would be saying I am not a Muslim not to mention Muslims also do not assume that Jews who do not Believe that Jesus is Christ will go to Hell because as Jesus said: Luke 16:29 King James Version (KJV) 29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them I believe you mean well but you lack the knowledge of Covenants and that would help you a lot in your understanding. God did not make one covenant but you believe that the covenant of Christ is the only Covenant and that is incorrect here let me show you: Are you circumcised(literally) That was an EVERLASTING COVENANT to this very day people that are under that covenant get circumcised but if you are not circumcised perhaps you make light of it.

Hi BD:

No, I do not make light of the Jews for circumsizing their children.  This is part of the Abrahamic covenant that God made with Abraham and his descendants.  Circumscision was a sign, an action of faith, showing that they believe God.

And this covenant the Law was added because of transgression of God's Law, and by this Law, the people of Israel knew when they had violated the Law of God.  And there is no one who has not violated the Law of God.  There is no man who has not sinned whether they were in a covnent relationship with God or not.

And salvation is not earned by perfect obedience to God's Law.

Jerememiah 31:31 states the following:

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Jer 31:31 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:   Jer 31:32   Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:   Jer 31:33   But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.   Jer 31:34   And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

And in the epistle to the Hebrews in the New Testament:

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Hbr 8:6   But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.   Hbr 8:7 ¶ For if that first [covenant] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.   Hbr 8:8   For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:   Hbr 8:9   Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.   Hbr 8:10   For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:   Hbr 8:11   And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.   Hbr 8:12   For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.   Hbr 8:13   In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

And so, I know you say that you believe that Jesus is the Christ, but you have also acknowledged that you do not believe that He is the literal Son of the Living God nor do you believe that he was crucified and that he died, and was resurrected from the dead.

You also say that Muslims are submitted to God, but Jesus is the propititiation for our sins, and if you do not believe this, where or what is the sacrifice for your sins?

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Ed J]

Hi Marty,

“Without shedding of blood is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only,
but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:2)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

[Proclaimer]

Quote (charity @ Mar. 22 2012,11:34)

JESUS IS Number with the transgressors. Picture Jesus as he is retrieving the gold coin out of the fishes mouth to pay the Tax collector, An maybe a few Day's latter the WORD preaches this sermon! Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that (I reap where I sowed not), and gather where (I have not strawed): Thou oughtest therefore to have put (my money to the exchangers), and [then] at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give [it] unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left was that all in Jesus head while he was the one needing to pay tax,? tax that would benefit him? both the slothful servant an the right face that should have been on the coin? So Now We end with a Kingdom, with everyone there? an he's going to sort it out! heaven has second class citizens?

What are you taking about.
I can only hear bitterness in your words. I can't see any logic to them.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 26 2012,11:53)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 19 2012,14:44) Quote (942767 @ Mar. 19 2012,08:01) And Jesus said the following: Quote Jhn 3:14   And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:   Jhn 3:15   That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.   Jhn 3:16   For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.   Jhn 3:17   For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.   Jhn 3:18   He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. I never said anything to you about your going to hell.  You don't have to go there if you do not want to go according to these scriptures. Quote Act 17:30   And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:   Act 17:31   Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead.   Act 17:32   And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this [matter].   Love in Christ, Marty Your whole assumption is that I reject Jesus which I have no idea why you would think that as EVERY MUSLIM MUST BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS CHRIST and I have repeated that over and over you cannot even be a Muslim if you don't believe it so how is it you can somehow ignore what I have said over and over. If I say Jesus is not Christ I would be saying I am not a Muslim not to mention Muslims also do not assume that Jews who do not Believe that Jesus is Christ will go to Hell because as Jesus said: Luke 16:29 King James Version (KJV) 29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them I believe you mean well but you lack the knowledge of Covenants and that would help you a lot in your understanding. God did not make one covenant but you believe that the covenant of Christ is the only Covenant and that is incorrect here let me show you: Are you circumcised(literally) That was an EVERLASTING COVENANT to this very day people that are under that covenant get circumcised but if you are not circumcised perhaps you make light of it. Hi BD: No, I do not make light of the Jews for circumsizing their children.  This is part of the Abrahamic covenant that God made with Abraham and his descendants.  Circumscision was a sign, an action of faith, showing that they believe God. And this covenant the Law was added because of transgression of God's Law, and by this Law, the people of Israel knew when they had violated the Law of God.  And there is no one who has not violated the Law of God.  There is no man who has not sinned whether they were in a covnent relationship with God or not. And salvation is not earned by perfect obedience to God's Law. Jerememiah 31:31 states the following: Quote Jer 31:31 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:   Jer 31:32   Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:   Jer 31:33   But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.   Jer 31:34   And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. And in the epistle to the Hebrews in the New Testament: Quote Hbr 8:6   But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.   Hbr 8:7 ¶ For if that first [covenant] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.   Hbr 8:8   For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:   Hbr 8:9   Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.   Hbr 8:10   For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:   Hbr 8:11   And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.   Hbr 8:12   For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.   Hbr 8:13   In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.   And so, I know you say that you believe that Jesus is the Christ, but you have also acknowledged that you do not believe that He is the literal Son of the Living God nor do you believe that he was crucified and that he died, and was resurrected from the dead. You also say that Muslims are submitted to God, but Jesus is the propititiation for our sins, and if you do not believe this, where or what is the sacrifice for your sins? Love in Christ, Marty

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of
the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Was God a literal husband to them or a metaphorical husband?

You see, you keep missing my point somehow thinking I am trying to take something away from Jesus by saying he is not The Literal son of God but that's not true the fact is he is the Literal Righteous servant/Messiah of God if you say he is the literal begotten son of God then so is David because he was called the begotten son of God too.

Psalms 2:7
” 7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. “

Now, pointing that out to you either you would have to say it's true or somehow take it away from David and try to explain somehow that was about Christ but he was talking directly to David.

Frankly Marty, I find you are perfectly following your religion as far as I can tell (I say that because I don't know your private world) You seem upright, humble, reasonable and gentle.

A far as the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus this really is our only difference in belief because we Both believe that Jesus is Messiah, We both believe that we must believe that Jesus was sent by God to the Jews and to be a light to the gentiles. Now you believe that a Sacrifice must be made for your sins but I don't believe that not even from a Christian stand point because Jesus said:

Matthew 12:7
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Christians depend on Sacrifice and condemning the Guiltless
Muslims depend on the Mercy and compassion of God

we really believe

Hosea 6:6
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

we really believe

Romans 9:15
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

I don't see verses that say “I am God and I demand innocent blood for your sins” I see that Idea coming out of the idea of Jesus being crucified and finding comfort in it somehow being done for a greater purpose.

Jesus said they were “Condemning the guiltless” the scriptures say he was “betrayed” Jesus said he was not willing to die on the cross saying instead “Not my will but yours”

Muslims believe like you that they condmned Jesus although he was guiltless and was betrayed and was to be crucified the only difference here is that the Quran reveals that God saved his Christ and raised him up to Himself and we believe that scriptures also back this up.

Psalm 91

1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

now realize what the wicked saw nd then understand this:

That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157)
158 Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-

You believe you are saved
We believe that Jesus was saved
God saving Jesus does not Condemn you

John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Likewise God did not send Jesus into the world for the world to condemn him

Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus mission was not to come and die if it was he would not have said well before his “Crucifixion” that his work was finished.

John 17:4
I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

If the work was the cross how could he have been finished then?

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