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(1) From page 1 of Heavennet:
The main purpose of this site is to equip believers world-wide with resources that will encourage and build you up in your most holy faith and to encourage the unity in the faith that is required for the world to believe that Jesus is the Messiah.(2) ibid
the forum is a good place to have your say and bring accountability to the authors.(3) From t8’s signature:
Titus 1:9: He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.(4) From a recent t8 post in “Restoring HeavenNet privileges”:
the focus which is to test all things to see whether they are so.The “Too Hard Basket” has shown that 5 biblical claims are not true. So in line with (4) out testing has shown that the bible is fallible.
If the ‘authors’ are serious about (2) and (4) then why have the opening statements on this site not been edited to match that which has been tested and found false?
This is not a matter of interpretation, it is not true that:
From: https://heavennet.net/answers/answer16.htm
we (ie the first humans) were vegetarians in the beginning;
From: https://heavennet.net/writings/dear-atheist.htm
To say there is no God you need absolute proof.
From: https://heavennet.net/writings/atheist.htm
there really can only be 2 types of people, believers and agnostics.
From: https://heavennet.net/answers/answer30.htm
if evolution were true, then it means that we are responsible to no one
You need oxygen and carbon dioxide to breathe.
But we have to acknowledge that evolution is still called a theory because it has never been proven
God has made his existence known to all who want the truth
the truth that all design warrants a designer and every house is built by someone acknowledges a creator
From: https://heavennet.net/answers/answer35.htm
Only a fool could say that there is no God with all the proof that is around himWhy is there no a constant questioning about the probity of biblical truth claims if we are serious about (4)?
(1) and (3) indicate that there is no intention to be sincere about (2) or (4).Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 14 2008,21:00) OK Stu. You got me. Now what? 
How about you tell 'Heaven' that you really believe it is important to test all things and that the things shown to be false on the front page of Heaven Net should be edited out?Does the word hypocrisy mean anything to you?
Stuart
Quote The “Too Hard Basket” has shown that 5 biblical claims are not true. stu, you are truly deluded.
Quote (david @ Oct. 15 2008,17:37) Quote The “Too Hard Basket” has shown that 5 biblical claims are not true. stu, you are truly deluded.
I don't see you successfully refuting any of the disproofs put up against Noah's flood for example. Do you think you would breathe easily in a boat floating at 7,000 plus metres of altitude?Stuart
Quote I don't see you successfully refuting any of the disproofs put up against Noah's flood for example. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I wasn't aware any “disproofs” existed. I was aware that there were some things that as of yet, we simply can't answer, just as there are some things that today, science simply can't answer. Does this constitute “disproof” in your mind? If it does, that is what I would consider unclear thinking.
Quote Do you think you would breathe easily in a boat floating at 7,000 plus metres of altitude?
I would probably not breathe “easily” if I was 7000 metres above sea level, but the account doesn't even say they were 7000 metres above sea level. If it did, you may have something.
It speaks of the highest mountain.
If we were certain that a global cataclismic event such as a worldwide flood didn't have an impact on the earth, then we could be certain that thousands of years ago, the mountains were the same height.David
Stu: I don't see you successfully refuting any of the disproofs put up against Noah's flood for example.
Quote Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I wasn't aware any “disproofs” existed. I was aware that there were some things that as of yet, we simply can't answer, just as there are some things that today, science simply can't answer. Does this constitute “disproof” in your mind? If it does, that is what I would consider unclear thinking.
Just one disproof of the claim that there was a global flood which killed all plants between 3000BCE and 2000 BCE is the existence of 4800 year old bristlecone pines with an uninterrupted dendrochronology. You can’t have been paying attention.Stu: Do you think you would breathe easily in a boat floating at 7,000 plus metres of altitude?
Quote I would probably not breathe “easily” if I was 7000 metres above sea level, but the account doesn't even say they were 7000 metres above sea level. If it did, you may have something.
It speaks of the highest mountain. If we were certain that a global cataclismic event such as a worldwide flood didn't have an impact on the earth, then we could be certain that thousands of years ago, the mountains were the same height.
Well you know that the mountains change their heights, don’t you David. The last time JWs visited my door they tried to explain to me that the earth was much flatter then. They did not say how flat, or how they worked it out. Of course the non-deluded can calculate with quite reasonable confidence that Everest was much more than 7000 metres above sea level in 3000BCE. Did god supply Noah, his family and millions of animals with oxygen tanks?Stuart
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