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To be given the Spirit without measure, to me, is much different than being inspired.
Again, we (you and me) are sons of God, this is true, but we are adopted sons – Jesus is not adopted. Therefore, there is a difference between us and Jesus. What is this difference?
Hi not3,
Filled with, taught by, led by and given divine insights directly from God by His Spirit.
Inspired.Hi not3,
No difference.
One sent to be first in everything.
Showing the way through life and death and freeing men of that fear of death.Hi not3,
He was filled with the fulness and we share in that fulness together making up his body on earth.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,18:17) Hi not3,
No difference.
One sent to be first in everything.
Showing the way through life and death and freeing men of that fear of death.
Romans 3:22,23“This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, for all have sinned….”
No difference, you say?
Has Jesus sinned?Hi not3,
No but this is addressed to men who all fail the test.
Christ was tempted and did not fail.If there is no difference found in Christ, that is; he is a mere man, then he too would be counted among those who sinned.
What do you suppose kept him from sinning? Are you able to keep from sin?
Hi Not3,
His Father's care.
God was with him.[acts 10]
It seems Joseph was not around and God did the male parenting.Psalm 68:5
A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.
Jeremiah 7:6
If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
Jeremiah 49:11
Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,19:00) Hi Not3,
His Father's care.
God was with him.[acts 10]
It seems Joseph was not around and God did the male parenting.Psalm 68:5
A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.
Jeremiah 7:6
If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
Jeremiah 49:11
Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.
Then he DID have an advantage over us…..can we still follow him?You seem to believe that if Jesus had any advantage over us we cannot follow him? I've heard you say this on several threads that Jesus is a mere, puny, man!
I say that he DID have advantages, and we were speaking of some, namely that he was able to not sin because he was parented directly by God – that is an advantage! My Daddy was a banker, not God Almighty.
Hi Not3.
Does the head have an advantage over the toe?
Yes but they both are of the same body.
Does the vine have an advantage over the twig?
Yes but they are both of the same vine.
Those advantages are by the blessing and appointment of God and not nature.The man Jesus Christ has shown us the way and made it easy for us. Born as a normal man he was transformed by God for service just as we can be. We have access to the same grace and the same powers and abilities. We now have the advantage that we do not have to go to the cross but just be born again of water and the Spirit to become children of God.
Excellent post – I will ponder this over lunch.
What comes to mind, however, is that the Father has “qualified” us to be adopted. You adopt after your own “kind.” Jesus had to be a biological son of God for US to be considered for adoption (considering that God is not a man, but Jesus is).
Col.1:12
“…giving thanks to the Father who has qualified you to share in the inheritance…”An inheritance is given to children. We will become co-heirs with Christ *after* our adoption. Jesus is not adopted. Why? I keep asking this question but no one is attempting to answer it.
Hi Not3,
Adam was a true Son of God.
A man who lost his inheritance by selling up to satan.
Jesus is the second Adam.[1Cor15]
A man who did inherit by perfect obedience.We are only grafted into him.
Hi,
Here is the humiliation of the lamb of God.11For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
12Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
13Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2007,07:22) Hi Not3,
Adam was a true Son of God.
A man who lost his inheritance by selling up to satan.
Jesus is the second Adam.[1Cor15]
A man who did inherit by perfect obedience.We are only grafted into him.
Adam was a created son of God.
God spit on some dust and breathed life into his nares.Jesus is a conceived son of God.
God gave of himself and Jesus is now a part of him.*Adam was never the exact representation of God.
*Adam will be a “co-heir” with Jesus.
*Adam will be adopted. Jesus already belongs.Created vs Conceived – WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,11:54) EVERYONE except for Jesus will be adopted. Can anyone tell me why? Anyone?
Notin3, we are the bride of Christ. You are one flesh with your husband. We are to be one with Jesus and inheriting His name just as you took your husband's name.
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