The koran on women

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  • #173066
    Stu
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    Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 25 2010,14:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,14:22)

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    So what you believe is that ALL ORTHODOX JEWS are either liars or delusional?

    Anyone who has a god-belief is delusional.  You, and any christian who actually really believes in a god, and you too.

    Stuart


    stuart,

    prove to me with the love in your heart that there is not a creator of sound light and vibration.

    can you do it with love stuart, or can you only do it with facts.

    you are no better then the ones you call delusion if you cannot, then the message you bring is not to help or heal it is only to destroy and hurt.


    Of course there is a creator of vibration and sound and light. Many, actually. I am one of them, as are you. Everytime I open my gob, vibration causes sound to emerge, and much light with it!

    …sometimes.

    Hate to be pedantic, but I do not keep 'love' in my heart: it lives somewhere in my brain, and expresses itself as arousal of the parasympathetic system.

    Not bad for a frog, eh?!

    Stuart

    #173068
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 25 2010,14:16)
    honestly, do you not think the women to fight to see who would be the favorite of her husband.

    you could almost caterogize this a 'only the strongest survives'.

    nonsense, i would not share my husband with another women, he would be mine and mine alone, call me selfish, would have it no other way.


    I guess it would depend on the individuals themselves, remember that Muslim famalies are raised different than Western society, iv seen Muslim wives holding hands while walking for example. If they love the same man they could form a really close bond. It depends on them. Also they can help and comfort each other, safety in numbers sort of thing.

    I would not want to share my husband because hes alot of work emotionally so I wouldnt expect anyone else to have to put up with that -its bad enough for me!

    #173076
    karmarie
    Participant

    But then again im a hypocryte because we never actually legally married, so he would be free by law to marry someone else. I call him my husband just because weve been together so long.

    #173082
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,16:02)
    But then again im a hypocryte because we never actually legally married, so he would be free by law to marry someone else. I call him my husband just because weve been together so long.


    According to common law you guys are married, especially if you are known by your community as Husband and Wife.

    #173141
    karmarie
    Participant

    Thanks Bod but according to Christianity and Islam too, we are -living in sin- and should either stop it, or get married.

    Common law only applies to property.

    #173142
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,13:16)
    BD

    Of course they have come to realise now, actually as I have, just how brutal, sexist and unjust your belief system is by modern standards.  What does the brutality of islam have to do with christianity?  No matter how nasty christianity and Judaism may or may not be, islam as it is applied throughout the world is still anti-human nonsense that deserves no place in civilisation.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    BD rejects “Truth”!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #173151
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,19:23)
    Thanks Bod but according to Christianity and Islam too, we are -living in sin- and should either stop it, or get married.

    Common law only applies to property.


    Not where I live. Where I live 5 years together and Marital rights are fully available.

    Biblically speaking, Marriage was a simple affair of taking someone as a bride and consumating the marriage.

    State courts in the United States* have routinely held that public cohabitation was sufficient evidence of a valid marriage

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_licence

    #173152
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,13:16)
    BD

    Of course they have come to realise now, actually as I have, just how brutal, sexist and unjust your belief system is by modern standards.  What does the brutality of islam have to do with christianity?  No matter how nasty christianity and Judaism may or may not be, islam as it is applied throughout the world is still anti-human nonsense that deserves no place in civilisation.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    BD rejects “Truth”!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you agree with STU calling God brutal for such things as in the Bible commanding the stoning of Homosexuals?

    #173158
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:55)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,13:16)
    BD

    Of course they have come to realise now, actually as I have, just how brutal, sexist and unjust your belief system is by modern standards.  What does the brutality of islam have to do with christianity?  No matter how nasty christianity and Judaism may or may not be, islam as it is applied throughout the world is still anti-human nonsense that deserves no place in civilization.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    BD rejects “Truth”!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you agree with STU calling God brutal for such things as in the Bible commanding the stoning of Homosexuals?


    Hi BD,

    I don't see any mention of homosexuals in either Post? could you point out where it is in case I missed it?
    He did not call my GOD(YHVH) brutal, he called 'your god'(satan) brutal!
    I think he said: “deserves no place in civilization.”

    Job 41:34 He(Guess who?) beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride(loose the pride; BD).
    Prov:3:33: The 'curse'=66(Guess who?) of the LORD(YHVH) is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #173161
    Stu
    Participant

    Don't worry Ed, I think your god is brutal too. He murdered poor Uzzah, who was only trying to help!

    BD leaps from subject to subject in an attempt to dodge answering valid arguments. He will move from homosexuality to the cost of real estate, just you see!

    Stuart

    #173163
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,20:24)
    Don't worry Ed, I think your god is brutal too.  He murdered poor Uzzah, who was only trying to help!

    BD leaps from subject to subject in an attempt to dodge answering valid arguments.  He will move from homosexuality to the cost of real estate, just you see!

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Nicole Tesla surmised that the arc was “a Giant Capacitor”.
    If true then the cause of death would have been an electric shock;
    thus an accident. Once discharged it was safe to touch!

    Ed J

    #173169
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:14)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:55)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,13:16)
    BD

    Of course they have come to realise now, actually as I have, just how brutal, sexist and unjust your belief system is by modern standards.  What does the brutality of islam have to do with christianity?  No matter how nasty christianity and Judaism may or may not be, islam as it is applied throughout the world is still anti-human nonsense that deserves no place in civilization.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    BD rejects “Truth”!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you agree with STU calling God brutal for such things as in the Bible commanding the stoning of Homosexuals?


    Hi BD,

    I don't see any mention of homosexuals in either Post? could you point out where it is in case I missed it?
    He did not call my GOD(YHVH) brutal, he called 'your god'(satan) brutal!
    I think he said: “deserves no place in civilization.”

    Job 41:34 He(Guess who?) beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride(loose the pride; BD).
    Prov:3:33: The 'curse'=66(Guess who?) of the LORD(YHVH) is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Did YHVH command or allow for the stoning of Homosexuals?

    STU is talking about God and being very clear about his dislike for God, why won't you help STU by not dismissing what he says about God.

    I know you are still having abit of a problem with Polytheism but you were starting to do a lot better just focus on GOD and not “gods” I know it is tempting but that is just remnants of a lack of knowledge

    #173174
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,20:24)
    Don't worry Ed, I think your god is brutal too.  He murdered poor Uzzah, who was only trying to help!

    BD leaps from subject to subject in an attempt to dodge answering valid arguments.  He will move from homosexuality to the cost of real estate, just you see!

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Nicole Tesla surmised that the arc was “a Giant Capacitor”.
    If true then the cause of death would have been an electric shock;
    thus an accident. Once discharged it was safe to touch!

    Ed J


    So you are saying that the bible is wrong, and in fact god never intended that Uzzah die?

    1 Chronicles 13:10 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza, and he smote him, because he put his hand to the ark: and there he died before God.

    Stuart

    #173175
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:14)
    Hi BD,

    I don't see any mention of homosexuals in either Post? could you point out where it is in case I missed it?
    He did not call my GOD(YHVH) brutal, he called 'your god'(satan) brutal!
    I think he said: “deserves no place in civilization.”

    Job 41:34 He(Guess who?) beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride(loose the pride; BD).
    Prov:3:33: The 'curse'=66(Guess who?) of the LORD(YHVH) is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed

    I dont know why but I miss your posts sometimes?

    Especially the colours thing you do and words

    I disagree that the God of Islam is a different God, can you prove otherwise?

    Maybe thats all you need to see  :)

    #173180
    Stu
    Participant

    Maybe if he writes it in green and yellow, and makes it equal a really amazing number we will be convinced that Ed's god is actually Odin.

    Stuart

    #173181
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,21:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,20:24)
    Don't worry Ed, I think your god is brutal too.  He murdered poor Uzzah, who was only trying to help!

    BD leaps from subject to subject in an attempt to dodge answering valid arguments.  He will move from homosexuality to the cost of real estate, just you see!

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Nicole Tesla surmised that the arc was “a Giant Capacitor”.
    If true then the cause of death would have been an electric shock;
    thus an accident. Once discharged it was safe to touch!

    Ed J


    So you are saying that the bible is wrong, and in fact god never intended that Uzzah die?

    1 Chronicles 13:10  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza, and he smote him, because he put his hand to the ark: and there he died before God.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Chronicles was written by Scribes of the King, NOT a Prophet of YHVH(The LORD); do you know the difference?

    God bless
    ED J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #173192
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,21:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:14)
    Hi BD,

    I don't see any mention of homosexuals in either Post? could you point out where it is in case I missed it?
    He did not call my GOD(YHVH) brutal, he called 'your god'(satan) brutal!
    I think he said: “deserves no place in civilization.”

    Job 41:34 He(Guess who?) beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride(loose the pride; BD).
    Prov:3:33: The 'curse'=66(Guess who?) of the LORD(YHVH) is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed

    I dont know why but I miss your posts sometimes?

    Especially the colours thing you do and words

    I disagree that the God of Islam is a different God, can you prove otherwise?

    Maybe thats all you need to see  :)


    Hi Karmarie,

    I doubt that you will believe this “Bible Truth”; you don't believe about satan's 'title'=66(i am)
    even though I PROVED to you in both your PM's and on the open forum, why will this be any different?
    You have an unforgiving heart, which I have also PROVED to you, yet you show NO Proof otherwise!
    Even though I gave you plenty of opportunity to prove that you had forgiven me, but you showed NO PROOF that you had!

    Gal:1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven(Gabriel?), preach any other gospel
    unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    (2Cor.11:14: And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light(Gabriel?).
    Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
    whose end shall be according to their works.) Ask BD the Gematria values of his god in Arabic and English.
    And compare them to the number values I have listed in this Post and the quotes(Job 41:34), but I doubt he will tell you.
    BD has a habit of dodging “Truth” he doesn't want exposed! He thinks the 'book of fraud' is authoritative; it is if satan is your god!

    Ed J

    #173193
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,21:36)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,21:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,20:24)
    Don't worry Ed, I think your god is brutal too.  He murdered poor Uzzah, who was only trying to help!

    BD leaps from subject to subject in an attempt to dodge answering valid arguments.  He will move from homosexuality to the cost of real estate, just you see!

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Nicole Tesla surmised that the arc was “a Giant Capacitor”.
    If true then the cause of death would have been an electric shock;
    thus an accident. Once discharged it was safe to touch!

    Ed J


    So you are saying that the bible is wrong, and in fact god never intended that Uzzah die?

    1 Chronicles 13:10  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza, and he smote him, because he put his hand to the ark: and there he died before God.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Chronicles was written by Scribes of the King, NOT a Prophet of YHVH(The LORD); do you know the difference?

    God bless
    ED J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So Chronicles is part of the bible that is not divine-inspired?

    Is 2 Samuel 6:7 good enough for you then?

    Stuart

    #173195
    karmarie
    Participant

    You answered me! For a while I thought you were avoiding me, why do you keep thinking I havent forgiven you- still?

    What do you mean by prove? How?

    #173200
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,22:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,21:36)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,21:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,20:30)

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,20:24)
    Don't worry Ed, I think your god is brutal too.  He murdered poor Uzzah, who was only trying to help!

    BD leaps from subject to subject in an attempt to dodge answering valid arguments.  He will move from homosexuality to the cost of real estate, just you see!

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Nicole Tesla surmised that the arc was “a Giant Capacitor”.
    If true then the cause of death would have been an electric shock;
    thus an accident. Once discharged it was safe to touch!

    Ed J


    So you are saying that the bible is wrong, and in fact god never intended that Uzzah die?

    1 Chronicles 13:10  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza, and he smote him, because he put his hand to the ark: and there he died before God.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Chronicles was written by Scribes of the King, NOT a Prophet of YHVH(The LORD); do you know the difference?

    God bless
    ED J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So Chronicles is part of the bible that is not divine-inspired?

    Is 2 Samuel 6:7 good enough for you then?

    Stuart


    Stuart, Stuart, Stuart,

    That's the same account.

    Ed J

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