The koran on women

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Quote (Stu @ Jan. 17 2010,06:28)

# It's OK to have sex with your wives on the night of the fast. 2:187

# Menstruation is a sickness. Don't have sex with menstruating women. 2:222

# Have sex with your women whenever and as often as you like. 2:223

# Women have rights that are similar to men, but men are “a degree above them.” 2:228

# A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282

# “Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.” 4:3

# Males are to inherit twice that of females. 4:11

# Lewd women are to be confined to their houses until death. 4:15

# You may not forcibly inherit women, unless they flagrantly lewd. 4:19

# Instructions for exchanging wives 4:20

# “All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.”
You can't have sex with married women, unless they are slaves obtained in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like). 4:24

# Men are in charge of women, because Allah made men to be better than women. Refuse to have sex with women from whom you fear rebellion, and scourge them. 4:34

# Don't pray if you are drunk, dirty, or have touched a woman lately. 4:43

# Women are feeble and are unable to devise a plan. 4:98

# They invoke in his (Allah's) stead only females. 4:117

# A man cannot treat his wives fairly. 4:129

# “Unto the male is the equivalent share of two females.” 4:176

# When it's time to pray and you have just used the toilet or touched a woman, be sure to wash up. If you can't find any water, just rub some dirt on yourself. 5:6

# Men and women are enemies! (Or is it humans and Iblis? Sometimes Allah isn't all that clear about these things.) 7:24

If your … your wives … are dearer to you than Allah and His messenger … then wait till Allah bringeth His command to pass.” 9:24

# Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. 11:78

# “The guile of you women … is very great.” 12:28

# Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. 15:71

# When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, nursing mothers with forget their babies. 22:1-2

# You don't have to be modest around your wives or your slave girls “that your right hand possess.” 23:6

# If you accuse an honorable women of adultery, be sure to bring four witness. Otherwise you will receive 80 lashes. 24:4

# A husband can accuse his wife of adultery with only one witness. 24:6

# Believing women must lower their gaze and be modest, cover themselves with veils, and not reveal themselves except to their husbands, relatives, children, and slaves. 24:31

# If Muhammad's wives are good, Allah will give them “an immense reward.” 33:28-29

# The wives of Muhammad will be punished double for lewdness. (And that is easy for Allah.) 33:30

# The wives of Muhammad are not like other women. They must not leave their houses. 33:32-33

# When Allah or Muhammad decide that a man and a woman should marry, they must marry. 33:36

# Allah gave Zeyd to Muhammad in marriage. This was so that all Muslims would know that it's OK to marry your adopted son's ex-wife. 33:37

# Allah says it is lawful for Muhammad to marry any women he wants. 33:50-51

# If men must speak to Muhammad's wives they must speak from behind a curtain. And no one must ever marry one of his wives. 33:53

# But it's OK for Muhammad's wives to talk with certain people. 33:55

# Women must cover themselves when in public. 33:59

# Those who “did wrong” will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved). 37:22-23

# But the single-minded slaves of Allah will enjoy a Garden filled with lovely-eyed virgins. 37:40-48

# Female companions await those who enter the Gardens of Eden on the Day of Reckoning. 38:52

# Allah will reward faithful Muslims after they die with “fair ones with wide, lovely eyes.” 44:54

# Allah will reward those in the Garden with beautiful wives with wide, lovely eyes. 52:20

# Those who disbelieve in the afterlife give female names to angels. 53:27

# Allah will give those in the Garden women of modest gaze whom neither man nor jinn have touched before them. 55:56

# Allah will reward believing men with “fair ones” (beautiful women) in heaven. 55:71-72

# Those in the Garden will be attended by immortal youths with wide, lovely eyes. 56:17-23

# Allah made virgins to be lovers and friends to those on his right hand. 56:36-37

# Your wives and children are your enemies. They are to you only a temptation. 64:14-15

# Instructions for divorcing your wives. 65:1-6

# Allah's rules for divorcing wives that have not yet reached puberty. 65:4

# O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?”
Allah says it's OK for Muhammad to have sex with any of his wives whenever he wants. 66:1

# Muhammad's wives need to be careful. If they criticize their husband, Allah will replace them with better ones. 66:5

# The wives of Noah and Lot (who were both righteous) betrayed their husbands and are now in the Fire. 66:10

# Doom is about to fall on all disbelievers. Only worshippers (Muslims) and those who preserve their chastity (except with their wives and slave girls) will be spared from “the fires of hell” that are “eagar to roast.” 70:1-30

# You don't have to be chaste around your wives or your slave girls. 70:29-30

# Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber. 111:1-5

I would have to say good work,

and if bod argues you dont use context,

He doesnt think about Context when referring to the bible.

June 26, 2010 at 3:42 am#199999

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Jesus the Son of Mary , how is it you cannot say that and believe it

June 27, 2010 at 5:04 am#200204

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Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2010,08:42)

Jesus the Son of Mary , how is it you cannot say that and believe it

your point being?

I dont believe woman should be treated like trash. or a lesser being.

by the way are u american?

June 27, 2010 at 6:37 am#200208

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Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 27 2010,16:04)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2010,08:42)

Jesus the Son of Mary , how is it you cannot say that and believe it

your point being?

I dont believe woman should be treated like trash. or a lesser being.

by the way are u american?

It doesn't matter if I am american or not that would not alter anything but your subjectivity of me.

My point was to say that Jesus is the son of Mary is much more literal, practical and true.

June 27, 2010 at 7:36 am#200222

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Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2010,11:37)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 27 2010,16:04)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2010,08:42)

Jesus the Son of Mary , how is it you cannot say that and believe it

your point being?

I dont believe woman should be treated like trash. or a lesser being.

by the way are u american?

It doesn't matter if I am american or not that would not alter anything but your subjectivity of me.

My point was to say that Jesus is the son of Mary is much more literal, practical and true.

Bod,
are you losing it?

Woman are female!
observe a true statement, but has nothing to do with a subject unless i explain my point.

this is what you are doing.

I called this “pointless.”

Bod, are you so blind that you cant understand that i really want to understand you, who you are. being american, has to do with your lifestyle, doesnt mean thats who you are, but it affects. Im american, so what?

So how am i subjecting you if your american if im also an american unless you DARE call me a liar.

Jesus is born of the Holy spirit, which is MORE literal, practical and true.

your losing it bod,

June 27, 2010 at 8:56 am#200241

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BD is American.

And a hypocritical wind-up artist with no good answer against polytheism or atheism, even though he makes grandiloquent claims about his ability to convert people of either view.

He has started his own cult though. His followers are required to chant “Asana”, which happens to be his first name.

No I am not making this up.

Stuart

June 27, 2010 at 9:10 am#200246

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Quote (Stu @ June 27 2010,13:56)

BD is American.

And a hypocritical wind-up artist with no good answer against polytheism or atheism, even though he makes grandiloquent claims about his ability to convert people of either view.

He has started his own cult though. His followers are required to chant “Asana”, which happens to be his first name.

No I am not making this up.

Stuart

Are you serious?

Can you show me evidence to back this up?

June 27, 2010 at 10:10 pm#200349

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Quote (Stu @ June 27 2010,19:56)

BD is American.

And a hypocritical wind-up artist with no good answer against polytheism or atheism, even though he makes grandiloquent claims about his ability to convert people of either view.

He has started his own cult though. His followers are required to chant “Asana”, which happens to be his first name.

No I am not making this up.

Stuart

Asana is not my first name it simply means one made gracious by God. It is like saying someone is mayor or congressman or something of that nature.

I also have no followers but I do have friends who believe as I do.

June 27, 2010 at 10:12 pm#200350

https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2858

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Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 27 2010,20:10)

Quote (Stu @ June 27 2010,13:56)

BD is American.

And a hypocritical wind-up artist with no good answer against polytheism or atheism, even though he makes grandiloquent claims about his ability to convert people of either view.

He has started his own cult though. His followers are required to chant “Asana”, which happens to be his first name.

No I am not making this up.

Stuart

Are you serious?

Can you show me evidence to back this up?

Here is a link from this site

July 4, 2010 at 1:20 pm#201670

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v….ynext=1

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He calls himself Asana:

Either Asana is his first name, or it is a self-appellation, like “bishop”.

What would you make of this?

Oh! Asana (Bodhitharta) Remember when you had received the Joy and Kindness of The Most High. you wept at the beauty that was placed in your heart. Remember when you wrote the book (Witness The Real) and was given the choice of going forward with Us or staying behind with Our permission. You decided to go forward and that was best. Remember when We expanded your inheritance with 2 excellent companions. 1 brother(Asana Payzarr) and 1 wife(Asana Alicia) and We made them brother and sister on the path of righteousness. Although they were not the first ones We gave you to guide. They are the first ones that We gave you to teach to guide others. This is the instruction for all Asanas.

http://bodhitharta.tripod.com/

Stuart

July 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm#201691

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v….ynext=1

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Quote (Stu @ July 05 2010,00:20)

He calls himself Asana:

Either Asana is his first name, or it is a self-appellation, like “bishop”.

What would you make of this?

http://bodhitharta.tripod.com/

Stuart

Thank you for disproving your own statement

So either Asana is all the people mentioned in the paragraphs first name which it is not or it is a leading title like bishop which it is not or it simply a designation to all who make the commitment to be gracious.

Try to think “team” You are a Forum member here HN'er STU

July 4, 2010 at 9:49 pm#201709

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If that is not evidence of someone trying to run a cult then I don't know what is.

Stuart

July 5, 2010 at 2:55 am#201733

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Quote (Stu @ July 05 2010,08:49)

If that is not evidence of someone trying to run a cult then I don't know what is.

Stuart

What is a cult?

July 9, 2010 at 2:02 pm#202704

theodorej

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Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2010,13:55)

Quote (Stu @ July 05 2010,08:49)

If that is not evidence of someone trying to run a cult then I don't know what is.

Stuart

What is a cult?

Greetings B….Just as we are struggling with the meaning what IS…IS….so goes the debate of what constitutes a cult.I would think that most our modern day religions would fit the definition…We must not forget that religion is not of God but a creation of man…The majority of todays so called religions are based on Ideology more so than devine inspiration…

July 9, 2010 at 2:07 pm#202708

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The words “divine inspiration” constitute an ideology don't they?

Stuart

July 9, 2010 at 5:02 pm#202722

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Quote (theodorej @ July 10 2010,01:02)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2010,13:55)

Quote (Stu @ July 05 2010,08:49)

If that is not evidence of someone trying to run a cult then I don't know what is.

Stuart

What is a cult?

So a cult is simply a culture of practicing a certain ideology whether divinely unspired or philosophically deduced from religion.

The point is the word “cult” is a loaded word in general society and STU once again misunderstood that he is often the victim of preconceived notions

July 9, 2010 at 10:48 pm#202758

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Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2010,04:02)

Quote (theodorej @ July 10 2010,01:02)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2010,13:55)

Quote (Stu @ July 05 2010,08:49)

If that is not evidence of someone trying to run a cult then I don't know what is.

Stuart

What is a cult?

So a cult is simply a culture of practicing a certain ideology whether divinely unspired or philosophically deduced from religion.

The point is the word “cult” is a loaded word in general society and STU once again misunderstood that he is often the victim of preconceived notions

So if it is a loaded word, then you must already have known its meaning. Just coping the first few definitions from a Google search:

# followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices

# fad: an interest followed with exaggerated zeal; “he always follows the latest fads”; “it was all the rage that season”

# followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader

# a religion or sect that is generally considered to be unorthodox, extremist, or false; “it was a satanic cult”

# Cult pejoratively refers to a group whose beliefs or practices could be, reasonably or unreasonably, considered strange. The term was originally used to denote a system of ritual practices.

So it is cult, in the sense of people mindlessly following a leader who issues nonsense “instructions” to those who he renames.

To wit:

Stuart

July 9, 2010 at 10:49 pm#202760

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…sorry…whom he renames.

Stuart

July 10, 2010 at 12:24 am#202770