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  • #331460
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,16:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,10:02)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You push fulfilled Prophecy off into the future.
    And when I show you the fulfillment, you turn your ears off.
    “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    right you are ,he keep saying the same thing but at the same time he continue to do what he does best ,listen to himself ,


    Terra.

    Do you know thsi; thy kingdom come ,thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    Is his will done on earth?
    Is earth as in heaven?
    If his kingdom is here, than earth will be as heaven.is it?

    If your answer is yes,then there is something wrong with your spirit.

    wakeup.

    #331480
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    That prayer was before “Pentecost”; was it not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331483
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,17:41)
    Hi Wakeup,

    That prayer was before “Pentecost”; was it not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    True; but thy will be done on earth as in heaven.
    Earth is not heaven yet as far as I know.

    wakeup.

    #331488
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,17:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,17:41)
    Hi Wakeup,

    That prayer was before “Pentecost”; was it not?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    True; but thy will be done on earth as in heaven.
    Earth is not heaven yet as far as I know.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Pentecost” is when the “Kingdom of God” came.
    And we are working on his will being done on Earth.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331494
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,12:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,16:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,10:02)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You push fulfilled Prophecy off into the future.
    And when I show you the fulfillment, you turn your ears off.
    “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    right you are ,he keep saying the same thing but at the same time he continue to do what he does best ,listen to himself ,


    Terra.

    Do you know thsi; thy kingdom come ,thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    Is his will done on earth?
    Is earth as in heaven?
    If his kingdom is here, than earth will be as heaven.is it?

    If your answer is yes,then there is something wrong with your spirit.

    wakeup.


    wup

    YES; in every true Christian the will of God his done ,and so he become a citizen of that city or of the kingdom '

    why do you think John sew two classes of people saved one 144k and the other the great crowed that no one can count

    are they not saved ?? yes they are and they are part of the first resurrection,

    #331511
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,17:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,17:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,17:41)
    Hi Wakeup,

    That prayer was before “Pentecost”; was it not?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    True; but thy will be done on earth as in heaven.
    Earth is not heaven yet as far as I know.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Pentecost” is when the “Kingdom of God” came.
    And we are working on his will being done on Earth.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    How can?

    He is coming to destroy it.

    And you have read my post to 2Besee.
    Is God happy with the churches?
    No, he is going to make it full of thorns an briers.

    Jesus will not come to the churches with his arms open,but with rebuke,his garment dipped in blood,and a sword in his mouth.

    wakeup.

    #331530
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,19:02)
    EDj.

    (1)How can?

    (2)He is coming to destroy it.

    And you have read my post to 2Besee.
    (3)Is God happy with the churches?
    No, he is going to make it full of thorns an briers.

    (4)Jesus will not come to the churches with his arms open,but with rebuke,his garment dipped in blood,and a sword in his mouth.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) How can what?
    2) Not true.
    3) Religious institutions is God's spiritual prison for unruly birds.
    4) Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.
        “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
          yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
          yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331536
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,19:02)
    EDj.

    (1)How can?

    (2)He is coming to destroy it.

    And you have read my post to 2Besee.
    (3)Is God happy with the churches?
    No, he is going to make it full of thorns an briers.

    (4)Jesus will not come to the churches with his arms open,but with rebuke,his garment dipped in blood,and a sword in his mouth.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) How can what?
    2) Not true.
    3) Religious institutions is God's spiritual prison for unruly birds.
    4) Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.
        “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
          yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
          yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Where does it say Jesus returned in spirit?

    wakeup.

    #331537
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,18:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,12:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,16:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,10:02)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You push fulfilled Prophecy off into the future.
    And when I show you the fulfillment, you turn your ears off.
    “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    right you are ,he keep saying the same thing but at the same time he continue to do what he does best ,listen to himself ,


    Terra.

    Do you know thsi; thy kingdom come ,thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    Is his will done on earth?
    Is earth as in heaven?
    If his kingdom is here, than earth will be as heaven.is it?

    If your answer is yes,then there is something wrong with your spirit.

    wakeup.


    wup

    YES; in every true Christian the will of God his done ,and so he become a citizen of that city or of the kingdom '

    why do you think John sew two classes of people saved one 144k and the other the great crowed that no one can count

    are they not saved ?? yes they are and they are part of the first resurrection,


    Terra.

    The kingdom will be on earth.2240x2240x2240high.
    This is his first dominion,in israel.

    The 144000 are the first resurrected,the first fruits.
    The rest must go through tribulation.
    They have to make a concrete choice,take the mark or reject the mark.

    Because they have been walking on the fence during their christian life.
    No one can fool God,by just pretending to worship him.

    wakeup.

    #331545
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,19:02)
    EDj.

    (1)How can?

    (2)He is coming to destroy it.

    And you have read my post to 2Besee.
    (3)Is God happy with the churches?
    No, he is going to make it full of thorns an briers.

    (4)Jesus will not come to the churches with his arms open,but with rebuke,his garment dipped in blood,and a sword in his mouth.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) How can what?
    2) Not true.
    3) Religious institutions is God's spiritual prison for unruly birds.
    4) Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.
        “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
          yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
          yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Where does it say Jesus returned in spirit?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You yourself say he's not coming back physically again, right?

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
     will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

    “Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:
     and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
     A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come:
     but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the
     anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. And ye now therefore have sorrow:
     but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” (John 16:20-22)

    “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
     till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)

    “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
     shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331547
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,23:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,19:02)
    EDj.

    (1)How can?

    (2)He is coming to destroy it.

    And you have read my post to 2Besee.
    (3)Is God happy with the churches?
    No, he is going to make it full of thorns an briers.

    (4)Jesus will not come to the churches with his arms open,but with rebuke,his garment dipped in blood,and a sword in his mouth.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) How can what?
    2) Not true.
    3) Religious institutions is God's spiritual prison for unruly birds.
    4) Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.
        “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
          yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
          yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Where does it say Jesus returned in spirit?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
     will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

    “Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:
     and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
     A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come:
     but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the
     anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. And ye now therefore have sorrow:
     but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” (John 16:20-22)

    “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
     till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)

    “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
     shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Quote
    You yourself say he's not coming back physically again, right?


    Wakeup is saying totally the opposite. Christ will be coming back physically. Until then, we worship him in the spirit.

    #331548
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,23:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,19:02)
    EDj.

    (1)How can?

    (2)He is coming to destroy it.

    And you have read my post to 2Besee.
    (3)Is God happy with the churches?
    No, he is going to make it full of thorns an briers.

    (4)Jesus will not come to the churches with his arms open,but with rebuke,his garment dipped in blood,and a sword in his mouth.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) How can what?
    2) Not true.
    3) Religious institutions is God's spiritual prison for unruly birds.
    4) Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.
        “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
          yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
          yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Where does it say Jesus returned in spirit?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You yourself say he's not coming back physically again, right?

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
     will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

    “Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:
     and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
     A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come:
     but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the
     anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. And ye now therefore have sorrow:
     but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” (John 16:20-22)

    “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
     till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)

    “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
     shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Wrong: he is coming and every eyes hall see him.

    Jesus has never come back since he went up into the clouds.

    You must have been reading your qur'an.

    wakeup.

    #331551
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    ὀπτάνομαι (optanomai): signifies an earnest but more continued inspection (θεωρέω)

    θεωρέω (theaomai):

    behold, consider, look on

    From a derivative of theaomai (perhaps by addition of horao); to be a spectator of,
    i.e. Discern, (literally, figuratively (experience) or intensively (acknowledge)) –
    – behold, consider, look on, perceive, see. Compare optanomai.

    Not “see physically”, but to understand and experience “Spiritually”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331557
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,17:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,18:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,12:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,16:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,10:02)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You push fulfilled Prophecy off into the future.
    And when I show you the fulfillment, you turn your ears off.
    “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    right you are ,he keep saying the same thing but at the same time he continue to do what he does best ,listen to himself ,


    Terra.

    Do you know thsi; thy kingdom come ,thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    Is his will done on earth?
    Is earth as in heaven?
    If his kingdom is here, than earth will be as heaven.is it?

    If your answer is yes,then there is something wrong with your spirit.

    wakeup.


    wup

    YES; in every true Christian the will of God his done ,and so he become a citizen of that city or of the kingdom '

    why do you think John sew two classes of people saved one 144k and the other the great crowed that no one can count

    are they not saved ?? yes they are and they are part of the first resurrection,


    Terra.

    The kingdom will be on earth.2240x2240x2240high.
    This is his first dominion,in israel.

    The 144000 are the first resurrected,the first fruits.
    The rest must go through tribulation.
    They have to make a concrete choice,take the mark or reject the mark.

    Because they have been walking on the fence during their christian life.
    No one can fool God,by just pretending to worship him.

    wakeup.


    wup

    yes ,but it seems to me you do not understand ,you always talk about the leaders but are the leaders the kingdom ????

    #331562
    journey42
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

    [/quote]
    Hi Ed

    It appears that you are preaching another Jesus.

    Quote
    ὀπτάνομαι (optanomai): signifies an earnest but more continued inspection (θεωρέω)

    θεωρέω (theaomai):

    behold, consider, look on

    From a derivative of theaomai (perhaps by addition of horao); to be a spectator of,
    i.e. Discern, (literally, figuratively (experience) or intensively (acknowledge)) –
    – behold, consider, look on, perceive, see. Compare optanomai.

    What is all this jargon?  Do I have to read back 20 posts to see what you are talking about?

    Quote
    Not “see physically”, but to understand and experience “Spiritually”.


    Oh is this what it means?

    The message of Christ is so simple, why complicate it?  Christ is returning, and the world will witness this.  They will see him, and realise that they have made a big mistake.  Those who already know him in the spirit will be joined with him.

    #331570
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,03:13)

    Ed wrote:

    [/quote]
    Hi Ed

    It appears that you are preaching another Jesus.

    Quote
    ὀπτάνομαι (optanomai): signifies an earnest but more continued inspection (θεωρέω)

    θεωρέω (theaomai):

    behold, consider, look on

    From a derivative of theaomai (perhaps by addition of horao); to be a spectator of,
    i.e. Discern, (literally, figuratively (experience) or intensively (acknowledge)) –
    – behold, consider, look on, perceive, see. Compare optanomai.

    What is all this jargon?  Do I have to read back 20 posts to see what you are talking about?

    Quote
    Not “see physically”, but to understand and experience “Spiritually”.


    Oh is this what it means?

    The message of Christ is so simple, why complicate it?  Christ is returning, and the world will witness this.  They will see him, and realise that they have made a big mistake.  Those who already know him in the spirit will be joined with him.


    J42

    Quote
    The message of Christ is so simple, why complicate it? Christ is returning, and the world will witness this. They will see him, and realise that they have made a big mistake. Those who already know him in the spirit will be joined with him.

    could you tell me what you mean by “”THE WORLD”””???

    JN 14:19 “ After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also.

    #331581
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2012,05:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,04:57)

    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you are pushing Romans 14:17-18 off into the future.
    GREAT, now explain how 1 John 3:9-10 fits into your theory…

    “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed
    remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
    In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
    whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,
    neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:9-10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin;for his seed remained in him:
    and he CAN NOT sin,because he is born of God.

    Are you having a problem with this scripture?

    Who is born of God? Is it not the son of God?

    Jesus can not sin; but we can, and we can not exceed him.
    We all sin, and fall short of the glory of God.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    A progression away from sin:

    1John illustrates a progression away from sin. Starting at 1John 1:8:
    “If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves”…
    Sinners practice sin!

    Progressing to 1John 3:9: “Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; For his seed
    remainith in him: and he cannot sin (AS A USUAL PRACTICE), because he is borne of God.”
    Practice of sin diminishes!

    Finishing in 1John 5:18: “We know that whosoever is borne of God SINNETH NOT;
    But he that is begotten of God keepeth (GUARDS) himself,
    and that wicked one (Satan) toucheth him not.
    All sinning STOPS; fulfilling Matt. 5:44! (Eph.4:13)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.com


    EDJ.

    You are a big boy now,and you have a drivers licence and can drive like a big grown up man . You shoul know the difference between a progression and *can not* sin.

    Can not; means that it is impossible to sin.
    A progression from sinning means,from doing many sins to one or two sins a week,in your case it would be one or two sins a day.

    You must have build up a great deposit.
    If you only could turn it into dollars.
    Yoú'd be the riches man in the neighbourhood.
    Dont take this too seriously Brother,its my coffee.

    wakeup.

    #331587
    journey42
    Participant

    terraricca,Feb. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    could you tell me what you mean by “”THE WORLD”””???

    Pierre

    Every eye shall see.  That means everyone.  Small, great, rich or poor, free and slave, muslim, hindu, krishna, devil worshipers, atheists, Stu, everyone.  Whoever is alive that the time Christ comes. They will see him coming in all his power and glory. There will be a lot of bewildered faces who never expected this.

    Quote
    JN 14:19 “ After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also.

     This is a totally separate event;
    and not speaking of when Christ returns to bring justice , destroy babylon the great, and take over the kingdoms of the earth,
    and bring his reward to his saints, by raising them from the dead, and meeting them in the air.  You should know this.

    #331600
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,23:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,23:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36)
    EdJ.

    Where does it say Jesus returned in spirit?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
     will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

    “Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:
     and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
     A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come:
     but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the
     anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. And ye now therefore have sorrow:
     but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” (John 16:20-22)

    “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
     till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)

    “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
     shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed

    Christ will be coming back physically.


    Hi Journey42,

    Please explain the Scripture I gave then; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331602
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,16:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,10:02)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You push fulfilled Prophecy off into the future.
    And when I show you the fulfillment, you turn your ears off.
    “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    right you are ,he keep saying the same thing but at the same time he continue to do what he does best ,listen to himself ,


    :)

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