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Nick…. The Spirit of God in the Saints and Jesus will be establishing righteousness on the earth , without resistance because (ALL) Evil will be removed from the earth by GOD, Even animals behaviors will change when this Evil influencing of their natures is removed also as well as humans. The people in the world other then the Saints and Jesus do not have the Spirit of GOD in them. They are as carnal as people to day without God's spirit. The only thing changed is God removes EVIL Spirit (intellect) from the earth. All life is influenced by either good or evil or both. And all good and evil come from (ONE and the SAME) tree (symbolic) for what is produced in life. God created both EVIL and GOOD and can remove it any time He wants to. And the effect in the earth is what influence is left when evil is removed, and thats good only, so all nature is no longer influenced by evil but good only.
Nick GOOD and EVIL is not a being it is a (SPIRIT) intellect. and that is whats effects all who have life in them. Life will always include both Good and Evil, INTELLECT (SPIRIT). So we must Have God (IN) Us in order to maintain GOOD over EVIL. Thats the point of the Millennium Reign of Christ.
IMO.love and peace to you and yours………………………………gene
GB,
You tell us evil is of God Who balances it with good in some sort of heretical taoist idea.
So how will God put this evil in chains?You do realise you are a Gnostic with these extrabiblical doctrines do you not?
Read what is written and put it above your fanciful thoughts.Hi,
The kingdom is of light.
There is no darkness in God at all.Matthew 6:23
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!Luke 11:35
Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darknessJohn 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.John 12:46
I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.Ephesians 5:8
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:1 Thessalonians 5:5
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2009,15:34) Nick…. The Spirit of God in the Saints and Jesus will be establishing righteousness on the earth , without resistance because (ALL) Evil will be removed from the earth by GOD, Even animals behaviors will change when this Evil influencing of their natures is removed also as well as humans. The people in the world other then the Saints and Jesus do not have the Spirit of GOD in them. They are as carnal as people to day without God's spirit. The only thing changed is God removes EVIL Spirit (intellect) from the earth. All life is influenced by either good or evil or both. And all good and evil come from (ONE and the SAME) tree (symbolic) for what is produced in life. God created both EVIL and GOOD and can remove it any time He wants to. And the effect in the earth is what influence is left when evil is removed, and thats good only, so all nature is no longer influenced by evil but good only. Nick GOOD and EVIL is not a being it is a (SPIRIT) intellect. and that is whats effects all who have life in them. Life will always include both Good and Evil, INTELLECT (SPIRIT). So we must Have God (IN) Us in order to maintain GOOD over EVIL. Thats the point of the Millennium Reign of Christ.
IMO.love and peace to you and yours………………………………gene
Hi Gene,I want to expand on this a little bit. Let's think about how animals behave. Why don't we ever hear more about how animals are EVIL? Why is that? They certainly act it. I'm not asking you that question of course Gene, you already know. I'd think given Nick's reasoning, that he'd believe that animals must be possessed by supernatural evil beings too!
Man without God is an ignorant beast! So much about man can be learned from viewing other animals. I can't stop thinking about how I want God to have control over my life, like I mean REAL CONTROL. God sure has the ants in line. I can't wait until we are brought in line also.
All is vanity if man thinks he is greater then the animals. Some here think that man's influence of evil is greater then our Almighty Creator's influence. We might be more intelligent then the ants, but we are STILL just a creation like they are.
As YHWH will cause the animals to be in harmony with all of creation, MAN WILL BE NO DIFFERENT!
Hi Jodi,
You say
“As YHWH will cause the animals to be in harmony with all of creation, MAN WILL BE NO DIFFERENT! “Quite so with the remnant but their bad choices will see some cast into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Some prophetic scriptures come to mind regarding this somewhat off topic discussion:
ISAIAH 11:6-9
“And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.”HOSEA 2:18
“And for them I shall certainly conclude a covenant in that day in connection with the wild beast of the field and with the flying creature of the heavens and the creeping thing of the ground, and the bow and the sword and war I shall break out of the land, and I will make them lie down in security.”Quote Hi,
The kingdom is of light.
There is no darkness in God at all.If this is true, would God's kingdom of light be inside the ones who “inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness.” (mat 23:27)
Or Rather, was Jesus, the king of that kingdom “among them” or “in their midst” as the KJ and NIV give as alternate translations, to Luke 17:21, and as most every modern Bible also give as translations?
Nick……..to start labeling again is not beneficial to our discussion Brother, Look you say show us How God put Evil in Chains , this is because you not realizing GOD is the CREATOR of (ALL) Things and the depth of Symbolism used in Revelations. Nothing exists that He did bring into existence, and He can Just as easily remove it also from man and animals. Jesus said if YOU being Evil (existing in a evil state) Know how to give good gifts shows man still has some light in Him, John said the Word (Spiritual intellect) was the light that enlightens EVER MAN the comes into the WORLD> Light is reckoned as Understanding while Darkness is reckoned as ignorance in scripture, we exist in a state of both, “if the light in you be darkness (how great) is that darkness”, another words how ignorant are you, conversely as were grow in understanding we are being enlightened more and more, until we come to see clearly as Peter said until the DAY STAR don in you Heart (Mind). We who understand the things of GOD are called Children of Light. God controls all of this giving some more light and even blinding others, so as there Is light and darkness there is also good and evil. but (ALL) is of GOD and He controls It ALL by the power of His might. Therefore all Evil and all Good has always existed and All of it created by ONE GOD. If you understand how Evil and Good Spirit (intellect) is created then you can understand How That creator can easily remove or give either one. Most people hate that thought because it takes complete control away from them, and all want to think they are in control of their destinies.
Which is pure fallacy. All things are in control by ONE WILL even the allowance of our ignorance or enlightenment. ONE GOD, ONE WILL IN ALL And THROUGH ALL. ALL things are a result of the CREATION OF THE ONE GOD. IMO, So Nick if the light in you be darkness How great is that darkness, and the same applies to me to brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
GB,
We do not need your rationalisations.
They distract from learning from the given source.truth is written
Nick………And what of your rationalizations are we to listen to them?. Is that all you can do is go around labeling and condescending on people who don't agree with you. Post your proofs of what you are talking about if you truly understand instead of ridiculing what others say. You have (NO) knowledge that what i am saying is not from the given source. If what i say is contrary to scripture then prove it by scripture, rather then Just flapping your mouth, And you are very wrong truth is not always written there are many errors to what has be written, that may very well be your problem you fail to see them. You seem unable to recognize Symbolisms used in scripture. Perhaps what you really are saying is, what i say detracts from what you want to say would be more accurate.
Why don't you Just watch what is posted about the subjects, and you might learn something, instead of opening up your mouth and sticking you foot in it all most the time.
love and peace…………………………………gene
GB,
The written scriptural evidence that supports your fancies about intellect and a god of good and evil is not to be found among the holy books so to accept them would be to join you in dangerous gnosticism.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2009,17:11) Nick………And what of your rationalizations are we to listen to them?. Is that all you can do is go around labeling and condescending on people who don't agree with you. Post your proofs of what you are talking about if you truly understand instead of ridiculing what others say. You have (NO) knowledge that what i am saying is not from the given source. If what i say is contrary to scripture then prove it by scripture, rather then Just flapping your mouth, And you are very wrong truth is not always written there are many errors to what has be written, that may very well be your problem you fail to see them. You seem unable to recognize Symbolisms used in scripture. Perhaps what you really are saying is, what i say detracts from what you want to say would be more accurate. Why don't you Just watch what is posted about the subjects, and you might learn something, instead of opening up your mouth and sticking you foot in it all most the time.
love and peace…………………………………gene
Friend,Please allow me the following words of encouragement for your consideration.
Quote JAM.3:10-12 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water. I have found it so easy to fall prey to Satans lure on these
forums. Sometimes I have gotten so zealous I forget to stay
loving in word and deed.I have, in those moments, been reminded –
Quote PR 29:11 A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control. I say these things in love and pray you receive them in love.
Please, don't take the bait!Blessings,
Seeking
Nick……..The word Gnostic does not infer evil if you understood that you would not even use it as another one of your labels you toss around so loosely. Check put the meaning of the word itself.
peace……………………gene
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