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- September 9, 2007 at 12:41 pm#65654
IM4Truth
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The fourth beast is the Roman beast. A horn is a symbol of power, kings and emperors had power, that is what the horns stand for. These horns on the Roman beast are all the kings and emperors of that kingdom. Ten is not a number of individuals, it is the number of completion, or total, meaning , all included. You quoted it yourself, v. 24, the ten horns are ten kings that shall arise “OUT OF THIS KINGDOM”, The Roman kingdom. That kingdom lasted from centuries B.C. till the middle of the 15th century.
The other, little horn, that shall arise after them, would come to power after the Roman Empire fell, at least in the west, was Antichrist, or the image of the beast. Rome being the beast, and Antichrist, the Pope, is the image of Rome. Why is he called the image? because he ruled like the Romans, even structured his church after the Romans.
The Pope is the Emperor, check back in history and see how they ruled.
The Cardinals are the Senate.
The Bishops are the Governors.
The Priests and Monks are the Mayors.
The ten horns on the beast in Rev. 17:12 have a different meaning. They are all the kings/nations that make up the king, head number seven, the one that would last only a short time. that king was “THE LEAGUE OF NATION”, it lasted from 1918 till 1946, and out of this king came the eights, which is of the seven, “THE UNITED NATION”. They are the ten toes in Dan. 2:45, they represent mans last attempt for a one world government, just before God will destroy them all.
You are right in your description of the Catholic Church, they have been deceiving the world ever since Constantine stopped the persecution in 313 A.D., and then made this Church the “ROMEN UNIVERSAL CHURCH”, It became the religion of his empire.
Antichrist is not someone that hates Christ, or denies Christ. Jesus himself said, MANY would come in his name, admitting he was the the savior, he was the son of God, and deceiving many; by their false gospel. And were do all the other denomination come from? Where did they have their origin from?
There are of course many types of Antichrist, those who don't believe at all in the Father or the Son, that includes Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and all the rest, but they don't teach in the name of Christ, they don't claim to preach the gospel of Christ, only Antichrist claims he is here instead of Christ, and is teaching his false gospel instead.
Therefore, that description of the Antichrist fits the Pope like a glove.Good talking with you, God bless
October 23, 2010 at 9:01 pm#221073terraricca
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the beast coming out of the sea ,are the total world powers (7) 5 are gone,one is,(6) one is not yet,(7)
so the beast in power at John time was Rome and the head that seems to be wounded from war,and was health,was that six head ,this happen around the 6 century it seems then that the Roman empire was doomed and being a sort of theocracy ,since they had only one state religion,
now the beast from Rev 13 ,who comes out of the earth is not a world power ,but it makes an image of that wounded head and that is the Roman state with one religion and one godly prophet so Muhammad became the false prophet,
and his military power became the beast,History will tell you what he and his followers did to accomplish the prophesythe two horns are the two divisions in that beast the Sunni and the Shiite,
just google the history of the first 200 years of Islam,you can see then
Pierre
October 26, 2010 at 1:04 am#221441Pastry
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2010,08:01) hi the beast coming out of the sea ,are the total world powers (7) 5 are gone,one is,(6) one is not yet,(7)
so the beast in power at John time was Rome and the head that seems to be wounded from war,and was health,was that six head ,this happen around the 6 century it seems then that the Roman empire was doomed and being a sort of theocracy ,since they had only one state religion,
now the beast from Rev 13 ,who comes out of the earth is not a world power ,but it makes an image of that wounded head and that is the Roman state with one religion and one godly prophet so Muhammad became the false prophet,
and his military power became the beast,History will tell you what he and his followers did to accomplish the prophesythe two horns are the two divisions in that beast the Sunni and the Shiite,
just google the history of the first 200 years of Islam,you can see then
Pierre
Georg
October 26, 2010 at 4:24 am#221486terraricca
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yea you right
Pierre
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