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Hi IAM4Truth:
Quote 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. I agree with you that the Ten Horns are the same ten horns mentioned in the verses below:
Quote 23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. But the verse 24 states that the Ten Horns are ten kings that shall arise from the forth beast which is the Roman empire, and the little horn, who we agree is the Anti-Christ, shall arise from the area that was the Roman empire after them.
My understanding is that the Ten Horns of the following verse are also the same:
Quote Re 17:12
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.Each of these Horns or kings will be a ruler of a Kingdom under the authority of the beast.
But because of the following verses of scripture, I believe that all of this refers to the end time events which are still future events:
Quote Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. 11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. 12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives F53 were prolonged for a season and time. 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Quote Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. 27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions F56 shall serve and obey him. The definition of Anti-Christ is:
Quote 1Jo 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah but they do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God. They believe in the virgin birth but they do not believe that God is the Father of Jesus, and therefore, they do fit the definition of AntiChrist. I do know that radical Islam seeks to impose Sharia (Muslim law on the whole world). If I may refer you to the following web-site: http://www.shoebat.com/, perhaps you will find some of this information here.
The Pope does not fit this definition. He believes that Jesus is the Son of God, but the Catholic church has perverted the Word of God through their false doctrines. They have fornicated the Word of God, therefore, I believe that the Catholic church is the “Babylonian whore, the Mother of Harlots”. She is responsible for all of the false doctrines in the church today.
You are a pretty good typist for a two finger typist. Does your wife have long finger nails? I will read your post relative to the rapture.
God Bless
Hi 942767
The fourth beast is the Roman beast. A horn is a symbol of power, kings and emperors had power, that is what the horns stand for. These horns on the Roman beast are all the kings and emperors of that kingdom. Ten is not a number of individuals, it is the number of completion, or total, meaning , all included. You quoted it yourself, v. 24, the ten horns are ten kings that shall arise “OUT OF THIS KINGDOM”, The Roman kingdom. That kingdom lasted from centuries B.C. till the middle of the 15th century.
The other, little horn, that shall arise after them, would come to power after the Roman Empire fell, at least in the west, was Antichrist, or the image of the beast. Rome being the beast, and Antichrist, the Pope, is the image of Rome. Why is he called the image? because he ruled like the Romans, even structured his church after the Romans.
The Pope is the Emperor, check back in history and see how they ruled.
The Cardinals are the Senate.
The Bishops are the Governors.
The Priests and Monks are the Mayors.
The ten horns on the beast in Rev. 17:12 have a different meaning. They are all the kings/nations that make up the king, head number seven, the one that would last only a short time. that king was “THE LEAGUE OF NATION”, it lasted from 1918 till 1946, and out of this king came the eights, which is of the seven, “THE UNITED NATION”. They are the ten toes in Dan. 2:45, they represent mans last attempt for a one world government, just before God will destroy them all.
You are right in your description of the Catholic Church, they have been deceiving the world ever since Constantine stopped the persecution in 313 A.D., and then made this Church the “ROMEN UNIVERSAL CHURCH”, It became the religion of his empire.
Antichrist is not someone that hates Christ, or denies Christ. Jesus himself said, MANY would come in his name, admitting he was the the savior, he was the son of God, and deceiving many; by their false gospel. And were do all the other denomination come from? Where did they have their origin from?
There are of course many types of Antichrist, those who don't believe at all in the Father or the Son, that includes Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and all the rest, but they don't teach in the name of Christ, they don't claim to preach the gospel of Christ, only Antichrist claims he is here instead of Christ, and is teaching his false gospel instead.
Therefore, that description of the Antichrist fits the Pope like a glove.Good talking with you, God bless
hi
the beast coming out of the sea ,are the total world powers (7) 5 are gone,one is,(6) one is not yet,(7)
so the beast in power at John time was Rome and the head that seems to be wounded from war,and was health,was that six head ,this happen around the 6 century it seems then that the Roman empire was doomed and being a sort of theocracy ,since they had only one state religion,
now the beast from Rev 13 ,who comes out of the earth is not a world power ,but it makes an image of that wounded head and that is the Roman state with one religion and one godly prophet so Muhammad became the false prophet,
and his military power became the beast,History will tell you what he and his followers did to accomplish the prophesythe two horns are the two divisions in that beast the Sunni and the Shiite,
just google the history of the first 200 years of Islam,you can see then
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2010,08:01) hi the beast coming out of the sea ,are the total world powers (7) 5 are gone,one is,(6) one is not yet,(7)
so the beast in power at John time was Rome and the head that seems to be wounded from war,and was health,was that six head ,this happen around the 6 century it seems then that the Roman empire was doomed and being a sort of theocracy ,since they had only one state religion,
now the beast from Rev 13 ,who comes out of the earth is not a world power ,but it makes an image of that wounded head and that is the Roman state with one religion and one godly prophet so Muhammad became the false prophet,
and his military power became the beast,History will tell you what he and his followers did to accomplish the prophesythe two horns are the two divisions in that beast the Sunni and the Shiite,
just google the history of the first 200 years of Islam,you can see then
Pierre
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