The Hour of Tribulation and Great Tribulation

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Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2012,07:26) W what are the meaning of TRIBULATION ? Terra. Tribulation is mentioned in math.24 as you know. Tribulation means troublesome times of persecution and jailing,and wars,and great afflictions. The christians are the main casualties,because they will refuse the false prophets rules. Some times we have tribulations in our life,because we are not of babylon.But not the great tribulation. The early christians had great tribulations during the roman kings. Jesus said in mat.25:21.For then shall be great tribulations such as was since the beginning of the world to this time,no nor ever shall be. wakeup.

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so wen was it that the great tribulations stopped ?

or begin

are the dark age the great tribulation

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,07:28) Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2012,07:26) W what are the meaning of TRIBULATION ? Terra. Tribulation is mentioned in math.24 as you know. Tribulation means troublesome times of persecution and jailing,and wars,and great afflictions. The christians are the main casualties,because they will refuse the false prophets rules. Some times we have tribulations in our life,because we are not of babylon.But not the great tribulation. The early christians had great tribulations during the roman kings. Jesus said in mat.25:21.For then shall be great tribulations such as was since the beginning of the world to this time,no nor ever shall be. wakeup. W so wen was it that the great tribulations stopped ? or begin are the dark age the great tribulation

Terra.

Every generation has its tribulations,and some has its great tribulation; like the generation that have been burned or given to the lions for the word of God.

The end time tribulation, when the false prophet starts to persecute the christians is the greatest.

wakeup.

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Quote (terraricca @ June 09 2012,09:19) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,07:28) Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2012,07:26) W what are the meaning of TRIBULATION ? Terra. Tribulation is mentioned in math.24 as you know. Tribulation means troublesome times of persecution and jailing,and wars,and great afflictions. The christians are the main casualties,because they will refuse the false prophets rules. Some times we have tribulations in our life,because we are not of babylon.But not the great tribulation. The early christians had great tribulations during the roman kings. Jesus said in mat.25:21.For then shall be great tribulations such as was since the beginning of the world to this time,no nor ever shall be. wakeup. W so wen was it that the great tribulations stopped ? or begin are the dark age the great tribulation Terra. Every generation has its tribulations,and some has its great tribulation; like the generation that have been burned or given to the lions for the word of God. The end time tribulation, when the false prophet starts to persecute the christians is the greatest. wakeup.

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when the false prophet starts to persecute the christians is the greatest.

any scripture for this ?

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,19:10) Quote (terraricca @ June 09 2012,09:19) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,07:28) Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2012,07:26) W what are the meaning of TRIBULATION ? Terra. Tribulation is mentioned in math.24 as you know. Tribulation means troublesome times of persecution and jailing,and wars,and great afflictions. The christians are the main casualties,because they will refuse the false prophets rules. Some times we have tribulations in our life,because we are not of babylon.But not the great tribulation. The early christians had great tribulations during the roman kings. Jesus said in mat.25:21.For then shall be great tribulations such as was since the beginning of the world to this time,no nor ever shall be. wakeup. W so wen was it that the great tribulations stopped ? or begin are the dark age the great tribulation Terra. Every generation has its tribulations,and some has its great tribulation; like the generation that have been burned or given to the lions for the word of God. The end time tribulation, when the false prophet starts to persecute the christians is the greatest. wakeup. WP Quote when the false prophet starts to persecute the christians is the greatest. any scripture for this ?

Terra.

REv.7:9.14.
Rev.20:4.

Tribulation=afflictions.

The false prophet will start a war.
First he will take israel,and build his temple there,so he can sit as God. But to do this ,he has to destroy the dome of the rock,and this will cause the king of the medes(iran) and his dominion and the king of the north(russia??)to stand up.

This will start the 3th world war.Then christ will show up,and they will point their guns up at him.(to make war against the lamb)
This is how babylon(the world system and cities)is destroyed,by Christ in one day.(rev18:8. isiah47:9.).

Satan bound for a 1000yrs,then the judgement of the ones that have been killed for christ.Rev7:9.14.

The 144000 are already with Christ at his appearing.

The kingdom in israel starts after all this is done.The bringing back of the israelites,in the flesh,to live in paradise,for a 1000yrs,but the resurected ones in spirit; already have inherrited the kingdom of heaven,but not the israelites,they must go through the second resurrection.(the white throne judgement.).rev.20:11.–15.

Teachings will go on inside and outside the kingdom,for a 1000yrs.

After the 1000yrs are finished,satan will be let loose to tempt the non believers,and he will gather them from the four quarters of the earth to attac the peaceful camp(kingdom).
This is the war of gog and magog.(Ez.38. and 39.).

Why did God call the kingdom; the camp of the saints?(rev 20:9.).

Because this is only the first dominion.(micah 4:8.).
The second dominion will be the whole earth.

Blessings.

wakeup.

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The false prophet will start a war. First he will take israel,and build his temple there,so he can sit as God. But to do this ,he has to destroy the dome of the rock,and this will cause the king of the medes(iran) and his dominion and the king of the north(russia??)to stand up.

were do you get this ?

and who his the false prophet

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W Quote The false prophet will start a war. First he will take israel,and build his temple there,so he can sit as God. But to do this ,he has to destroy the dome of the rock,and this will cause the king of the medes(iran) and his dominion and the king of the north(russia??)to stand up. were do you get this ? and who his the false prophet

Hi Terra.

If you want to know about the medes,you need to read Jer.ch51. but I will quote afew.

Verse 6. This is the Lords VENGEANCE..
Verse7. babylon hath made ALL THE EARTH DRUNKEN.

verse 11.make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the KINGS of the MEDES,FOR HIS DEVICE IS AGAINST BABYLON,TO DESTROY IT; BECAUSE IT IS THE VENGEANCE of his temple. (this is a dual proph.).

Verse 28. Prepare against her the NATIONS with the KINGS of the MEDES, THE CAPTAINS thereof,and ALL THE RULERS thereof, AND ALL THE LAND OF HIS DOMINION.(muslems).

Verse 44. And I will punish BEL(belzebub) in babylon(bab.today) and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he had swollowed up: (this also happened when king belshazzar drunk out of the vessels that belong to the temple of God,Remember the writing on the wall).
and the NATIONS shall not flow together anymore unto him: yea,the wall of babylon shall fall.

Verse 45. MY POPLE,GO YE OUT OF THE MIDS OF HER,(come out of babylon)(rev.18:4), and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the Lord.

Verse 48. Then the heaven and the earth,and all that is therein,shall sing for babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the NORTH saith the Lord.

Verse 49.As babylon hath caused the slain of israelto to fall, so at babylon shall fall THE SLAIN OF THE EARTH.
Isiah13:17.I will stir up the MEDES.
iSIAH 13:19. Bab.the glory of KINGDOMS.shall be as sodom and gomorah.

Read also Jer 25:25.26.
verse 29. the lord will begin to bring evil on the city which is called by his name.(jerusalem.).
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The false proph.Dan.7:8.little horn.
Verse 11. beast given to the burning flame.(rev19:20).
Verse 21.little horn made war with the saints.
Verse 22.UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS came(the coming).
Verse 25. he shall speak great words,AGAINST THE MOST HIGH, and wear out the saints.

8:11. he magnified himself even to the prince of the host.
8:23. IN LATTER TIME of their kingdom, a FIERCE king to come.
8:24. his power shall be MIGHTY,but not his power.(satans power).
8:25. he shall be broken without hands.

11:36.he will magnify himself above every God.
verse 37. no desire of women(he does not believe in any religion,because he is God on earth).(just worship him).
Verse 40 AT THE TIME OF THE END.(he is at the time of the end,ALIVE).

11:45,he shall plant the tabernacles of his PALACE between the seas,in the holy land.(jerusalem is between the seas; the great sea and the dead sea.

12:11. ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION –SET UP–.
(his temple set up in jerusalem).but first the dome must go.

The man of perdition 2thess2:4.He as God sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.(the same little horn at the time of the end.)

wakeup.

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Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,13:47) W Quote The false prophet will start a war. First he will take israel,and build his temple there,so he can sit as God. But to do this ,he has to destroy the dome of the rock,and this will cause the king of the medes(iran) and his dominion and the king of the north(russia??)to stand up. were do you get this ? and who his the false prophet Hi Terra. If you want to know about the medes,you need to read Jer.ch51. but I will quote afew. Verse 6. This is the Lords VENGEANCE.. Verse7. babylon hath made ALL THE EARTH DRUNKEN. verse 11.make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the KINGS of the MEDES,FOR HIS DEVICE IS AGAINST BABYLON,TO DESTROY IT; BECAUSE IT IS THE VENGEANCE of his temple. (this is a dual proph.). Verse 28. Prepare against her the NATIONS with the KINGS of the MEDES, THE CAPTAINS thereof,and ALL THE RULERS thereof, AND ALL THE LAND OF HIS DOMINION.(muslems). Verse 44. And I will punish BEL(belzebub) in babylon(bab.today) and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he had swollowed up: (this also happened when king belshazzar drunk out of the vessels that belong to the temple of God,Remember the writing on the wall). and the NATIONS shall not flow together anymore unto him: yea,the wall of babylon shall fall. Verse 45. MY POPLE,GO YE OUT OF THE MIDS OF HER,(come out of babylon)(rev.18:4), and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the Lord. Verse 48. Then the heaven and the earth,and all that is therein,shall sing for babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the NORTH saith the Lord. Verse 49.As babylon hath caused the slain of israelto to fall, so at babylon shall fall THE SLAIN OF THE EARTH. Isiah13:17.I will stir up the MEDES. iSIAH 13:19. Bab.the glory of KINGDOMS.shall be as sodom and gomorah. Read also Jer 25:25.26. verse 29. the lord will begin to bring evil on the city which is called by his name.(jerusalem.). ———————————————— The false proph.Dan.7:8.little horn. Verse 11. beast given to the burning flame.(rev19:20). Verse 21.little horn made war with the saints. Verse 22.UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS came(the coming). Verse 25. he shall speak great words,AGAINST THE MOST HIGH, and wear out the saints. 8:11. he magnified himself even to the prince of the host. 8:23. IN LATTER TIME of their kingdom, a FIERCE king to come. 8:24. his power shall be MIGHTY,but not his power.(satans power). 8:25. he shall be broken without hands. 11:36.he will magnify himself above every God. verse 37. no desire of women(he does not believe in any religion,because he is God on earth).(just worship him). Verse 40 AT THE TIME OF THE END.(he is at the time of the end,ALIVE). 11:45,he shall plant the tabernacles of his PALACE between the seas,in the holy land.(jerusalem is between the seas; the great sea and the dead sea. 12:11. ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION –SET UP–. (his temple set up in jerusalem).but first the dome must go. The man of perdition 2thess2:4.He as God sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.(the same little horn at the time of the end.) wakeup.

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this is your personal composition of the meaning of those scriptures but not the scriptures interpretation ,right

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2012,09:25) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,13:47) W Quote The false prophet will start a war. First he will take israel,and build his temple there,so he can sit as God. But to do this ,he has to destroy the dome of the rock,and this will cause the king of the medes(iran) and his dominion and the king of the north(russia??)to stand up. were do you get this ? and who his the false prophet Hi Terra. If you want to know about the medes,you need to read Jer.ch51. but I will quote afew. Verse 6. This is the Lords VENGEANCE.. Verse7. babylon hath made ALL THE EARTH DRUNKEN. verse 11.make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the KINGS of the MEDES,FOR HIS DEVICE IS AGAINST BABYLON,TO DESTROY IT; BECAUSE IT IS THE VENGEANCE of his temple. (this is a dual proph.). Verse 28. Prepare against her the NATIONS with the KINGS of the MEDES, THE CAPTAINS thereof,and ALL THE RULERS thereof, AND ALL THE LAND OF HIS DOMINION.(muslems). Verse 44. And I will punish BEL(belzebub) in babylon(bab.today) and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he had swollowed up: (this also happened when king belshazzar drunk out of the vessels that belong to the temple of God,Remember the writing on the wall). and the NATIONS shall not flow together anymore unto him: yea,the wall of babylon shall fall. Verse 45. MY POPLE,GO YE OUT OF THE MIDS OF HER,(come out of babylon)(rev.18:4), and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the Lord. Verse 48. Then the heaven and the earth,and all that is therein,shall sing for babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the NORTH saith the Lord. Verse 49.As babylon hath caused the slain of israelto to fall, so at babylon shall fall THE SLAIN OF THE EARTH. Isiah13:17.I will stir up the MEDES. iSIAH 13:19. Bab.the glory of KINGDOMS.shall be as sodom and gomorah. Read also Jer 25:25.26. verse 29. the lord will begin to bring evil on the city which is called by his name.(jerusalem.). ———————————————— The false proph.Dan.7:8.little horn. Verse 11. beast given to the burning flame.(rev19:20). Verse 21.little horn made war with the saints. Verse 22.UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS came(the coming). Verse 25. he shall speak great words,AGAINST THE MOST HIGH, and wear out the saints. 8:11. he magnified himself even to the prince of the host. 8:23. IN LATTER TIME of their kingdom, a FIERCE king to come. 8:24. his power shall be MIGHTY,but not his power.(satans power). 8:25. he shall be broken without hands. 11:36.he will magnify himself above every God. verse 37. no desire of women(he does not believe in any religion,because he is God on earth).(just worship him). Verse 40 AT THE TIME OF THE END.(he is at the time of the end,ALIVE). 11:45,he shall plant the tabernacles of his PALACE between the seas,in the holy land.(jerusalem is between the seas; the great sea and the dead sea. 12:11. ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION –SET UP–. (his temple set up in jerusalem).but first the dome must go. The man of perdition 2thess2:4.He as God sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.(the same little horn at the time of the end.) wakeup. W this is your personal composition of the meaning of those scriptures but not the scriptures interpretation ,right

Terra.
I did not write those scriptures,I am just quoting them.
As I said; you have to read the whole chapters,I was just quoting a few.
What is your interpretation? I like to know.

wakeup.

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Terra. I did not write those scriptures,I am just quoting them. As I said; you have to read the whole chapters,I was just quoting a few. What is your interpretation? I like to know. Hi Terra. If you want to know about the medes,you need to read Jer.ch51. but I will quote afew. wakeup.

JER 51:1 Thus says the LORD:
“Behold, I am going to arouse against Babylon
And against the inhabitants of Leb-kamai
The spirit of a destroyer.
JER 51:2 “I will dispatch foreigners to Babylon that they may winnow her
And may devastate her land;
For on every side they will be opposed to her
In the day of her calamity.
JER 51:3 “ Let not him who bends his bow bend it,
Nor let him rise up in his scale-armor;
So do not spare her young men;
Devote all her army to destruction.
JER 51:4 “They will fall down slain in the land of the Chaldeans,
And pierced through in their streets.”
JER 51:5
For neither Israel nor Judah has been forsaken
By his God, the LORD of hosts,
Although their land is full of guilt
Before the Holy One of Israel.
JER 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon,
And each of you save his life!
Do not be destroyed in her punishment,
For this is the LORD'S time of vengeance;
He is going to render recompense to her.
JER 51:7 Babylon has been a golden cup in the hand of the LORD,
Intoxicating all the earth.
The nations have drunk of her wine;
Therefore the nations are going mad.
JER 51:8 Suddenly Babylon has fallen and been broken;
Wail over her!
Bring balm for her pain;
Perhaps she may be healed.
JER 51:9 We applied healing to Babylon, but she was not healed;
Forsake her and let us each go to his own country,
For her judgment has reached to heaven
And towers up to the very skies.
JER 51:10 The LORD has brought about our vindication;
Come and let us recount in Zion
The work of the LORD our God!
JER 51:11
Sharpen the arrows, fill the quivers!
The LORD has aroused the spirit of the kings of the Medes,
Because His purpose is against Babylon to destroy it;
For it is the vengeance of the LORD, vengeance for His temple.
JER 51:12 Lift up a signal against the walls of Babylon;
Post a strong guard,
Station sentries,
Place men in ambush!
For the LORD has both purposed and performed
What He spoke concerning the inhabitants of Babylon.
JER 51:13 O you who dwell by many waters,
Abundant in treasures,
Your end has come,
The measure of your end.
JER 51:14 The LORD of hosts has sworn by Himself:
“Surely I will fill you with a population like locusts,
And they will cry out with shouts of victory over you.”
JER 51:15
It is He who made the earth by His power,
Who established the world by His wisdom,
And by His understanding He stretched out the heavens.
JER 51:16 When He utters His voice, there is a tumult of waters in the heavens,
And He causes the clouds to ascend from the end of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain
And brings forth the wind from His storehouses.
JER 51:17 All mankind is stupid, devoid of knowledge;
Every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols,
For his molten images are deceitful,
And there is no breath in them.
JER 51:18 They are worthless, a work of mockery;
In the time of their punishment they will perish.
JER 51:19 The portion of Jacob is not like these;
For the Maker of all is He,
And of the tribe of His inheritance;
The LORD of hosts is His name.
JER 51:20 He says, “You are My war-club, My weapon of war;
And with you I shatter nations,
And with you I destroy kingdoms.
JER 51:21 “With you I shatter the horse and his rider,
And with you I shatter the chariot and its rider,
JER 51:22 And with you I shatter man and woman,
And with you I shatter old man and youth,
And with you I shatter young man and virgin,
JER 51:23 And with you I shatter the shepherd and his flock,
And with you I shatter the farmer and his team,
And with you I shatter governors and prefects.
JER 51:24 “But I will repay Babylon and all the inhabitants of Chaldea for all their evil that they have done in Zion before your eyes,” declares the LORD.
JER 51:25 “Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain,
Who destroys the whole earth,” declares the LORD,
“And I will stretch out My hand against you,
And roll you down from the crags,
And I will make you a burnt out mountain.
JER 51:26 “They will not take from you even a stone for a corner
Nor a stone for foundations,
But you will be desolate forever,” declares the LORD.
JER 51:27
Lift up a signal in the land,
Blow a trumpet among the nations!
Consecrate the nations against her,
Summon against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni and Ashkenaz;
Appoint a marshal against her,
Bring up the horses like bristly locusts.
JER 51:28 Consecrate the nations against her,
The kings of the Medes,
Their governors and all their prefects,
And every land of their dominion.
JER 51:29 So the land quakes and writhes,
For the purposes of the LORD against Babylon stand,
To make the land of Babylon
A desolation without inhabitants.
JER 51:30 The mighty men of Babylon have ceased fighting,
They stay in the strongholds;
Their strength is exhausted,
They are becoming like women;
Their dwelling places are set on fire,
The bars of her gates are broken.
JER 51:31 One courier runs to meet another,
And one messenger to meet another,
To tell the king of Babylon
That his city has been captured from end to end;
JER 51:32 The fords also have been seized,
And they have burned the marshes with fire,
And the men of war are terrified.
JER 51:33 For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel:
“The daughter of Babylon is like a threshing floor
At the time it is stamped firm;
Yet in a little while the time of harvest will come for her.”
JER 51:34
“Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon has devoured me and crushed me,
He has set me down like an empty vessel;
He has swallowed me like a monster,
He has filled his stomach with my delicacies;
He has washed me away.
JER 51:35 “May the violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon,”
The inhabitant of Zion will say;
And, “May my blood be upon the inhabitants of Chaldea,”
Jerusalem will say.
JER 51:36 Therefore thus says the LORD,
“Behold, I am going to plead your case
And exact full vengeance for you;
And I will dry up her sea
And make her fountain dry.
JER 51:37 “ Babylon will become a heap of ruins, a haunt of jackals,
An object of horror and hissing, without inhabitants.
JER 51:38 “They will roar together like young lions,
They will growl like lions’ cubs.
JER 51:39 “When they become heated up, I will serve them their banquet
And make them drunk, that they may become jubilant
And may sleep a perpetual sleep
And not wake up,” declares the LORD.
JER 51:40 “I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter,
Like rams together with male goats.
JER 51:41
“How Sheshak has been captured,
And the praise of the whole earth been seized!
How Babylon has become an object of horror among the nations!
JER 51:42 “The sea has come up over Babylon;
She has been engulfed with its tumultuous waves.
JER 51:43 “Her cities have become an object of horror,
A parched land and a desert,
A land in which no man lives
And through which no son of man passes.
JER 51:44 “ I will punish Bel in Babylon,
And I will make wh
at he has swallowed come out of his mouth;
And the nations will no longer stream to him.
Even the wall of Babylon has fallen down!
JER 51:45
“ Come forth from her midst, My people,
And each of you save yourselves
From the fierce anger of the LORD.
JER 51:46 “Now so that your heart does not grow faint,
And you are not afraid at the report that will be heard in the land—
For the report will come one year,
And after that another report in another year,
And violence will be in the land
With ruler against ruler—
JER 51:47 Therefore behold, days are coming
When I will punish the idols of Babylon;
And her whole land will be put to shame
And all her slain will fall in her midst.
JER 51:48 “Then heaven and earth and all that is in them
Will shout for joy over Babylon,
For the destroyers will come to her from the north,”
Declares the LORD.
JER 51:49
Indeed Babylon is to fall for the slain of Israel,
As also for Babylon the slain of all the earth have fallen.
JER 51:50 You who have escaped the sword,
Depart! Do not stay!
Remember the LORD from afar,
And let Jerusalem come to your mind.
JER 51:51 We are ashamed because we have heard reproach;
Disgrace has covered our faces,
For aliens have entered
The holy places of the LORD'S house.
JER 51:52
“Therefore behold, the days are coming,” declares the LORD,
“When I will punish her idols,
And the mortally wounded will groan throughout her land.
JER 51:53 “Though Babylon should ascend to the heavens,
And though she should fortify her lofty stronghold,
From Me destroyers will come to her,” declares the LORD.
JER 51:54
The sound of an outcry from Babylon,
And of great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans!
JER 51:55 For the LORD is going to destroy Babylon,
And He will make her loud noise vanish from her.
And their waves will roar like many waters;
The tumult of their voices sounds forth.
JER 51:56 For the destroyer is coming against her, against Babylon,
And her mighty men will be captured,
Their bows are shattered;
For the LORD is a God of recompense,
He will fully repay.
JER 51:57 “I will make her princes and her wise men drunk,
Her governors, her prefects and her mighty men,
That they may sleep a perpetual sleep and not wake up,”
Declares the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.
JER 51:58 Thus says the LORD of hosts,
“The broad wall of Babylon will be completely razed
And her high gates will be set on fire;
So the peoples will toil for nothing,
And the nations become exhausted only for fire.”
JER 51:59 The message which Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah, the grandson of Mahseiah, when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah to Babylon in the fourth year of his reign. (Now Seraiah was quartermaster.)
JER 51:60 So Jeremiah wrote in a single scroll all the calamity which would come upon Babylon, that is, all these words which have been written concerning Babylon.
JER 51:61 Then Jeremiah said to Seraiah, “As soon as you come to Babylon, then see that you read all these words aloud,
JER 51:62 and say, ‘You, O LORD, have promised concerning this place to cut it off, so that there will be nothing dwelling in it, whether man or beast, but it will be a perpetual desolation.’
JER 51:63 “And as soon as you finish reading this scroll, you will tie a stone to it and throw it into the middle of the Euphrates,
JER 51:64 and say, ‘Just so shall Babylon sink down and not rise again because of the calamity that I am going to bring upon her; and they will become exhausted.’ ”

please show me what in this chapter did not came to past ,ON Babylon???

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Terra.

First thank you for all that work.
You must realise as you study these prophesies,that it is a dual prophesy. If you dont,than you will concentrate on babylon as the old babylon only.

There is a babylon today also; like the —mystery,babylon the great the mother of harlots,and abominatins of –THE EARTH.(this is not the old babylon, but babylon today).

The old babylon is no more,but the babylon today(the world) is still active,and the prophesy is most about this babylon.(not fulfilled).

The old babylon was taken by the medes;yes.
The babylon today also will be taken by the medes and all his dominion.Dan.11:44. But tidings of the east and out of the north shall trouble him—-(the medes and the north coul be russia?).(not fulfilled).

Rev.16:12. And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river euphrates;and the water thereof was dried up,that the way of the KINGS OF THE EAST(medes and allies) might be prepared.(not fulfilled).

Rev9:14. Saying to the sixth angel,which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river euphrates.(west of iran).( not fulfilled)

16. And the four angels were loosed which were prepared for an hour, a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the thirth part of men.( the number of the army=200,million).(the biggest army ever).(not fulfilled).

This is when babylon( the world) will sleep a perpetual sleep.
This is The lords vengeance(not fulfilled).

Jer.51:7. —babylon that made ALL THE EARTH DRUNK.(this is not the old babylon). The nations have drunken of her wine.(this is not the old babylon).The woman in revelation 17:4.with the cup in her hand,that make the world drunken with her wine.(happening today).

Verse 39. -they will sleep a perpetual sleep—(eternal sleep).
Verse 45. My people, go ye -OUT- of the mids of her,and deliver every man his soul.(this is not out of the old babylon; for God put them there to live)(this is the babylon today).
Rev.18:4.—come out of her my people—

Verse 48. spoilers shall come unto her from the –NORTH–(the medes are east of babylon,not north).north of israel is what we call now –THE WEST. (europe).

Verse 49. —so at babylon shall fall the slain of –ALL THE EARTH.(you can see here that it is definitely not the old babylon.)

Hi Terra; you must not focus your mind on the old babylon only,for this is a dual prophesy.
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Jer.25 is another to read. in verse 9. it says i will send and take all the families of the north.(north of israel in today called the west).(europe).

Israel today will serve babylon(the world) 70 years,then God will punish babylon starting with jerusalem.(verse29).(70years starting from israel becoming a nation).

Verse 26. all the KINGS OF THE NORTH,far and near and all the kingdoms of the world which are upon the FACE OF THE EARTH.

Verse 30. The Lord shall roar from on high.
Verse 31.The lord hath a controversy with the NATIONS,HE WILL PLEAD WITH ALL FLESH.

wakeup.

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Terra. First thank you for all that work. You must realise as you study these prophesies,that it is a dual prophesy. If you dont,than you will concentrate on babylon as the old babylon only. There is a babylon today also; like the —mystery,babylon the great the mother of harlots,and abominatins of –THE EARTH.(this is not the old babylon, but babylon today). The old babylon is no more,but the babylon today(the world) is still active,and the prophesy is most about this babylon.(not fulfilled). The old babylon was taken by the medes;yes. The babylon today also will be taken by the medes and all his dominion.Dan.11:44. But tidings of the east and out of the north shall trouble him—-(the medes and the north coul be russia?).(not fulfilled). Rev.16:12. And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river euphrates;and the water thereof was dried up,that the way of the KINGS OF THE EAST(medes and allies) might be prepared.(not fulfilled). Rev9:14. Saying to the sixth angel,which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river euphrates.(west of iran).( not fulfilled) 16. And the four angels were loosed which were prepared for an hour, a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the thirth part of men.( the number of the army=200,million).(the biggest army ever).(not fulfilled). This is when babylon( the world) will sleep a perpetual sleep. This is The lords vengeance(not fulfilled). Jer.51:7. —babylon that made ALL THE EARTH DRUNK.(this is not the old babylon). The nations have drunken of her wine.(this is not the old babylon).The woman in revelation 17:4.with the cup in her hand,that make the world drunken with her wine.(happening today). Verse 39. -they will sleep a perpetual sleep—(eternal sleep). Verse 45. My people, go ye -OUT- of the mids of her,and deliver every man his soul.(this is not out of the old babylon; for God put them there to live)(this is the babylon today). Rev.18:4.—come out of her my people— Verse 48. spoilers shall come unto her from the –NORTH–(the medes are east of babylon,not north).north of israel is what we call now –THE WEST. (europe). Verse 49. —so at babylon shall fall the slain of –ALL THE EARTH.(you can see here that it is definitely not the old babylon.) Hi Terra; you must not focus your mind on the old babylon only,for this is a dual prophesy. —————————————— Jer.25 is another to read. in verse 9. it says i will send and take all the families of the north.(north of israel in today called the west).(europe). Israel today will serve babylon(the world) 70 years,then God will punish babylon starting with jerusalem.(verse29).(70years starting from israel becoming a nation). Verse 26. all the KINGS OF THE NORTH,far and near and all the kingdoms of the world  which are upon the FACE OF THE EARTH. Verse 30. The Lord shall roar from on high. Verse 31.The lord hath a controversy with the NATIONS,HE WILL PLEAD WITH ALL FLESH. wakeup.

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You must realise as you study these prophesies,that it is a dual prophesy

you must believe that I am the queen ,SO THAT ALL WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS NOW TRUE OK.?

NO, that is not scriptural to me

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Terra.

So where can you find the contradictions?
Please state your disagreement.

wakeup.

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Terra. So where can you find the contradictions? Please state your disagreement. wakeup.

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We're does it say in scriptures that we have to see it double

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Terra.

There is such as dual prophesies in scripture.
Such as revelation chapter 12 is a dual prophesy.
Dont you know that?

Dual prophesy is needed,so they; back then can understand,and we; now also can understand.
Compare isiah ch. 47. and revelation ch.18.
This is not about The old babylon,but the babylon today.

wakeup.

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