The great deceit

[terraricca]

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what is a “deceit ” word,phrase ,taught,

HOW DOES THE MECHANISM OF DECEIT WORKS IN US HUMAN

AND WHY DOES IT WORKED LIKE THIS

THE WORST TRIBULATION THAT CAN HAPPEN TO ONE MAN “IS THAT HE FIND OUT IN LATER DAYS OF HIS LIVE THAT HE HAS BEEN “DECEIVED ” AND THIS WOULD AMOUNT THAT HIS FAITH AS ALSO AMOUNT TO NOTHING AND IN VAIN ,

SO WHAT YOU THINK

Lk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’

Do not follow them.

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,06:57)

ALL what is a “deceit ” word,phrase ,taught, HOW DOES THE MECHANISM OF DECEIT WORKS IN US HUMAN AND WHY DOES IT WORKED LIKE THIS THE WORST TRIBULATION THAT CAN HAPPEN TO ONE MAN “IS THAT HE FIND OUT IN LATER DAYS OF HIS LIVE THAT HE HAS BEEN “DECEIVED ” AND THIS WOULD AMOUNT THAT HIS FAITH AS ALSO AMOUNT TO NOTHING AND IN VAIN , SO WHAT YOU THINK Lk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.

Terra.

Your personal interpretation is worth nothing.
It is not what Christ said.

THIS IS WHAT CHRIST SAID:

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be ***great tribulation***, ***such as was not since the beginning of the world*** to this time, no, ***nor ever shall be***.

Matthew 24:22 ***And except those days should be shortened***, there should ***no flesh be saved**: but for the elect's sake those days **shall be shortened**.

THIS TRIBULATION IS AS A COLLECTIVE.(THE WORLD).
NOT JUST INDIVIDUALLY.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,06:33)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,06:57) ALL what is a “deceit ” word,phrase ,taught, HOW DOES THE MECHANISM OF DECEIT WORKS IN US HUMAN AND WHY DOES IT WORKED LIKE THIS THE WORST TRIBULATION THAT CAN HAPPEN TO ONE MAN “IS THAT HE FIND OUT IN LATER DAYS OF HIS LIVE THAT HE HAS BEEN “DECEIVED ” AND THIS WOULD AMOUNT THAT HIS FAITH AS ALSO AMOUNT TO NOTHING AND IN VAIN , SO WHAT YOU THINK Lk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. Terra. Your personal interpretation is worth nothing. It is not what Christ said. THIS IS WHAT CHRIST SAID: Matthew 24:21   For then shall be ***great tribulation***, ***such as was not since the beginning of the world*** to this time, no, ***nor ever shall be***.  Matthew 24:22   ***And except those days should be shortened***, there should ***no flesh be saved**: but for the elect's sake those days **shall be shortened**. THIS TRIBULATION IS AS A COLLECTIVE.(THE WORLD). NOT JUST INDIVIDUALLY. wakeup.

AGAIN ,YOUR PRACTICING DECEIT BY NOT SHOWING THE TRUTH ;BUT YOUR OWN VIEW OF THE SECTIONS OF SCRIPTURES ;

NOW THAT YOU KNOW ;STOP DOING THIS ;

Mt 24:1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.
Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Mt 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
Mt 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.
Mt 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
Mt 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Mt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—
Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.
Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.
Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

Lk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
Lk 21:9 When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”
Lk 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
Lk 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
Lk 21:12 “But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name.
Lk 21:13 This will result in your being witnesses to them.
Lk 21:14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves.
Lk 21:15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
Lk 21:16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death.
Lk 21:17 All men will hate you because of me.
Lk 21:18 But not a hair of your head will perish.
Lk 21:19 By standing firm you will gain life.
Lk 21:20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
Lk 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.

Mk 13:4 “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?”
Mk 13:5 Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
Mk 13:6 Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many.
Mk 13:7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
Mk 13:8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.
Mk 13:9 “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them.
Mk 13:10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.
Mk 13:11 Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.
Mk 13:12 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
Mk 13:13 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Mk 13:14 “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mk 13:15 Let no one on the roof of his house go down or enter the house to take anything out.
Mk 13:16 Let no one in the fiel
d go back to get his cloak.
Mk 13:17 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
Mk 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter,
Mk 13:19 because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again.
Mk 13:20 If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them.
Mk 13:21 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ !’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it.
Mk 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible.
Mk 13:23 So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.
Mk 13:24 “But in those days, following that distress,
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
Mk 13:25 the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
Mk 13:26 “At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
Mk 13:27 And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.
Mk 13:28 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
Mk 13:29 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door.
Mk 13:30 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
Mk 13:31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

SO ,WE CAN SEE ,THAT ALL YOUR VIEW INTO SO CALLED “THE TRIBULATION ” IS IN FACT BASED ON “ONE SINGLE WORD” AND THAT WORD IS NOT THE PRIMARY TRANSLATION OF THE GREEK WORD IN ITS PLACE ;

THIS IS DECEIT ;BUT GOD ALMIGHTY INSIDE IS WORD GIVE US THE TRUTH ;THAT DREAMERS CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ;

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Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,06:33) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,06:57) ALL what is a “deceit ” word,phrase ,taught, HOW DOES THE MECHANISM OF DECEIT WORKS IN US HUMAN AND WHY DOES IT WORKED LIKE THIS THE WORST TRIBULATION THAT CAN HAPPEN TO ONE MAN “IS THAT HE FIND OUT IN LATER DAYS OF HIS LIVE THAT HE HAS BEEN “DECEIVED ” AND THIS WOULD AMOUNT THAT HIS FAITH AS ALSO AMOUNT TO NOTHING AND IN VAIN , SO WHAT YOU THINK Lk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. Terra. Your personal interpretation is worth nothing. It is not what Christ said. THIS IS WHAT CHRIST SAID: Matthew 24:21   For then shall be ***great tribulation***, ***such as was not since the beginning of the world*** to this time, no, ***nor ever shall be***.  Matthew 24:22   ***And except those days should be shortened***, there should ***no flesh be saved**: but for the elect's sake those days **shall be shortened**. THIS TRIBULATION IS AS A COLLECTIVE.(THE WORLD). NOT JUST INDIVIDUALLY. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOUR PRACTICING DECEIT BY NOT SHOWING THE TRUTH ;BUT YOUR OWN VIEW OF THE SECTIONS OF SCRIPTURES ; NOW THAT YOU KNOW ;STOP DOING THIS ; Mt 24:1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Mt 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mt 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. Mt 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, Mt 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. Lk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. Lk 21:9 When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.” Lk 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. Lk 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. Lk 21:12 “But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. Lk 21:13 This will result in your being witnesses to them. Lk 21:14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. Lk 21:15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. Lk 21:16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. Lk 21:17 All men will hate you because of me. Lk 21:18 But not a hair of your head will perish. Lk 21:19 By standing firm you will gain life. Lk 21:20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Lk 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. Mk 13:4 “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?” Mk 13:5 Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mk 13:6 Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. Mk 13:7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Mk 13:8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains. Mk 13:9 “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. Mk 13:10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. Mk 13:11 Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Mk 13:12 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. Mk 13:13 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mk 13:14 “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong—let the reader und erstand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mk 13:15 Let no one on the roof of his house go down or enter the house to take anything out. Mk 13:16 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. Mk 13:17 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mk 13:18 Pray that this will not take place in winter, Mk 13:19 because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again. Mk 13:20 If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them. Mk 13:21 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ !’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. Mk 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible. Mk 13:23 So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time. Mk 13:24 “But in those days, following that distress, “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; Mk 13:25 the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Mk 13:26 “At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. Mk 13:27 And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens. Mk 13:28 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Mk 13:29 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. Mk 13:30 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Mk 13:31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. SO ,WE CAN SEE ,THAT ALL YOUR VIEW INTO SO CALLED  “THE TRIBULATION ” IS IN FACT BASED ON “ONE SINGLE WORD” AND THAT WORD IS NOT THE PRIMARY TRANSLATION OF THE GREEK WORD IN ITS PLACE ; THIS IS DECEIT ;BUT GOD ALMIGHTY INSIDE IS WORD GIVE US THE TRUTH ;THAT DREAMERS CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ;

Terra.

***No flesh shall be saved***.
They did not have the technology in 70ad
to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend?
But what is programmed in your head.
Even plain scriptures can not make sense.

wakeup.

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Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup.

AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU ,
MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL

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Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL

Well all knowing brother Terra

Please,please explain the scripture above to us
so we can get some of your pure wisdom.

IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:06)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,13:46) Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL Well all knowing brother Terra Please,please explain the scripture above to us so we can get some of your pure wisdom. IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**. wakeup.

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No flesh shall be saved

WHERE IS THIS WRITTEN ANY VERSE # CHAP # VERSION ?

YOU REALLY DO NOT HAVE GOOD PRACTICES;

AND DO NOT TRY TO FLATTERY ME i AM NOT A PRIEST OR PHARISEES ,YOU GOT THIS BAD HABIT ;

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,13:46) Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL Well all knowing brother Terra Please,please explain the scripture above to us so we can get some of your pure wisdom. IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**. wakeup. Quote No flesh shall be saved   WHERE IS THIS WRITTEN ANY VERSE # CHAP # VERSION ? YOU REALLY DO NOT HAVE GOOD PRACTICES; AND DO NOT TRY TO FLATTERY ME i AM NOT A PRIEST OR PHARISEES ,YOU GOT THIS BAD HABIT ;

Terra.

You dont even know your scriptures.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should *******no flesh be saved********: but for the elect's sake those days shall be ***shortened***.

So this happened in 70 ad.
Nuclear and hydrogen boms in 70 ad.

Go on say it: defend your beloved doctrine.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:44)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,13:46) Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL Well all knowing brother Terra Please,please explain the scripture above to us so we can get some of your pure wisdom. IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**. wakeup. Quote No flesh shall be saved   WHERE IS THIS WRITTEN ANY VERSE # CHAP # VERSION ? YOU REALLY DO NOT HAVE GOOD PRACTICES; AND DO NOT TRY TO FLATTERY ME i AM NOT A PRIEST OR PHARISEES ,YOU GOT THIS BAD HABIT ; Terra. You dont even know your scriptures. Matthew 24:22   And except those days should be shortened, there should *******no flesh be saved********: but for the elect's sake those days shall be ***shortened***. So this happened in 70 ad. Nuclear and hydrogen boms in 70 ad. Go on say it:  defend your beloved doctrine. wakeup.

THANK YOU

Context
NET ©
And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
NIV ©
If those days had not been cut short, no-one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
NASB ©
“Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
NLT ©
In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, the entire human race will be destroyed. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones.
MSG ©
If these days of trouble were left to run their course, nobody would make it. But on account of God's chosen people, the trouble will be cut short.
BBE ©
And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short.
NRSV ©
And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
NKJV ©
“And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.
KJV
And
except
those
days
should be shortened
(5681)_, there
should
no
flesh
be saved
(5681)_: but
for
the elect's sake
those
days
shall be shortened
(5701)_.
NASB ©
“Unless
those
days
had been cut
short
, no
life
would have been saved
; but for the sake
of the elect
those
days
will be cut
short
.
GREEK
kai

CONJei

CONDmh

PRT-Nekolobwyhsan
(5681)
V-API-3Pai

T-NPFhmerai

N-NPFekeinai

D-NPFouk

PRT-Nan

PRTeswyh
(5681)
V-API-3Spasa

A-NSFsarx

N-NSFdia

PREPde

CONJtouv

T-APMeklektouv

A-APMkolobwyhsontai
(5701)
V-FPI-3Pai

T-NPFhmerai

N-NPFekeinai

D-NPF
NET © [draft] ITL
And
if
those
days
had
not
been cut short
, no one
would
be saved
. But for the sake
of
the elect
those
days
will be cut short
.
NET ©
And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
NET © Notes

SO THINGS ARE NOT LIKE YOU PRETEND THEY ARE ; THIS IS IMPORTANT INFO ; I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SIX OR SO YEARS PRIOR TO 70 AD ,

BUT YOU SHOULD DIG IT UP ;FOR YOUR OWN INFO;

THOSE VERSE IN MY UNDERSTANDING ARE REFERRING TO Israel AND PARTICULARLY TO JERUSALEM ,

AND YES MANY HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH THE SAVING OF THE ELECT ONES , (I MEAN SURVIVED THE ROMAN EVIL,)

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:55)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:44) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,13:46) Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL Well all knowing brother Terra Please,please explain the scripture above to us so we can get some of your pure wisdom. IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**. wakeup. Quote No flesh shall be saved   WHERE IS THIS WRITTEN ANY VERSE # CHAP # VERSION ? YOU REALLY DO NOT HAVE GOOD PRACTICES; AND DO NOT TRY TO FLATTERY ME i AM NOT A PRIEST OR PHARISEES ,YOU GOT THIS BAD HABIT ; Terra. You dont even know your scriptures. Matthew 24:22   And except those days should be shortened, there should *******no flesh be saved********: but for the elect's sake those days shall be ***shortened***. So this happened in 70 ad. Nuclear and hydrogen boms in 70 ad. Go on say it:  defend your beloved doctrine. wakeup. THANK YOU Context NET © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NIV © If those days had not been cut short, no-one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. NASB © “Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NLT © In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, the entire human race will be destroyed. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones. MSG © If these days of trouble were left to run their course, nobody would make it. But on account of God's chosen people, the trouble will be cut short. BBE © And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. NRSV © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NKJV © “And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. KJV And except those days should be shortened (5681)_, there should no flesh be saved (5681)_: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened (5701)_. NASB © “Unless those days had been cut short , no life would have been saved ; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short . GREEK kai CONJei CONDmh PRT-Nekolobwyhsan (5681) V-API-3Pai T-NPFhmerai N-NPFekeinai D-NPFouk PRT-Nan PRTeswyh (5681) V-API-3Spasa A-NSFsarx N-NSFdia PREPde CONJtouv T-APMeklektouv A-APMkolobwyhsontai (5701) V-FPI-3Pai T-NPFhmerai N-NPFekeinai D-NPF NET © [draft] ITL And if those days had not been cut short , no one would be saved . But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short . NET © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NET © Notes SO THINGS ARE NOT LIKE YOU PRETEND THEY ARE ; THIS IS IMPORTANT INFO ; I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SIX OR SO YEARS PRIOR TO 70 AD , BUT YOU SHOULD DIG IT UP ;FOR YOUR OWN INFO; THOSE VERSE IN MY UNDERSTANDING ARE REFERRING  TO Israel AND PARTICULARLY TO JERUSALEM , AND YES MANY HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH THE SAVING OF THE ELECT ONES , (I MEAN SURVIVED THE ROMAN EVIL,) DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS

Terra.

No answer?

But now instead you are doing your own bla,bla,bla.bla.bla

Nuclear weapons in 70 ad??
NO *FLESH* SHALL BE SAVED. NOT *SOULS* BUT FLESH.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:57)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:44) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,13:46) Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL Well all knowing brother Terra Please,please explain the scripture above to us so we can get some of your pure wisdom. IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**. wakeup. Quote No flesh shall be saved   WHERE IS THIS WRITTEN ANY VERSE # CHAP # VERSION ? YOU REALLY DO NOT HAVE GOOD PRACTICES; AND DO NOT TRY TO FLATTERY ME i AM NOT A PRIEST OR PHARISEES ,YOU GOT THIS BAD HABIT ; Terra. You dont even know your scriptures. Matthew 24:22   And except those days should be shortened, there should *******no flesh be saved********: but for the elect's sake those days shall be ***shortened***. So this happened in 70 ad. Nuclear and hydrogen boms in 70 ad. Go on say it:  defend your beloved doctrine. wakeup. THANK YOU Context NET © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NIV © If those days had not been cut short, no-one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. NASB © “Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NLT © In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, the entire human race will be destroyed. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones. MSG © If these days of trouble were left to run their course, nobody would make it. But on account of God's chosen people, the trouble will be cut short. BBE © And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. NRSV © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NKJV © “And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. KJV And except those days should be shortened (5681)_, there should no flesh be saved (5681)_: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened (5701)_. NASB © “Unless those days had been cut short , no life would have been saved ; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short . GREEK kai CONJei CONDmh PRT-Nekolobwyhsan (5681) V-API-3Pai T-NPFhmerai N-NPFekeinai D-NPFouk PRT-Nan PRTeswyh (5681) V-API-3Spasa A-NSFsarx N-NSFdia PREPde CONJtouv T-APMeklektouv A-APMkolobwyhsontai (5701) V-FPI-3Pai T-NPFhmerai N-NPFekeinai D-NPF NET © [draft] ITL And if those days had not been cut short , no one would be saved . But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short . NET © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NET © Notes SO THINGS ARE NOT LIKE YOU PRETEND THEY ARE ; THIS IS IMPORTANT INFO ; I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SIX OR SO YEARS PRIOR TO 70 AD , BUT YOU SHOULD DIG IT UP ;FOR YOUR OWN INFO; THOSE VERSE IN MY UNDERSTANDING ARE REFERRING  TO Israel AND PARTICULARLY TO JERUSALEM , AND YES MANY HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH THE SAVING OF THE ELECT ONES , (I MEAN SURVIVED THE ROMAN EVIL,) DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS Terra. No answer? But now instead you are doing your own bla,bla,bla.bla.bla Nuclear weapons in 70 ad?? NO *FLESH* SHALL BE SAVED. NOT *SOULS* BUT FLESH. wakeup.

IT DOES NOT SAY ,WHAT YOU SAY IT SAYS ,

NOT ALL FLESH DIED ,BECAUSE OF THE ELECT ,

YOU PLACE THIS VERSE ,AND MAKE ALL BUNG OF THINGS WITH IT

IN YOUR MIND ;THEIR IS NO SUCH A THING ;

YOU ARE DECEIVING YOURSELF ;

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,19:18)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:44) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,13:46) Quote Terra. ***No flesh shall be saved***. They did not have the technology in 70ad to *kill all flesh*, so what are you trying to defend? But what is programmed in your head. Even plain scriptures can not make sense. wakeup. AGAIN ,YOU DO NOT SHOW ANYTHING THAT WOULD STAND ,ONLY YOUR  REFUSAL TO SEE TO WHAT EVER YOU SHOW ;THAT YOU TRY TO DECEIVE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO YOU , MAY BE YOU WHERE DECEIVED AS WELL Well all knowing brother Terra Please,please explain the scripture above to us so we can get some of your pure wisdom. IE,**NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED**. wakeup. Quote No flesh shall be saved   WHERE IS THIS WRITTEN ANY VERSE # CHAP # VERSION ? YOU REALLY DO NOT HAVE GOOD PRACTICES; AND DO NOT TRY TO FLATTERY ME i AM NOT A PRIEST OR PHARISEES ,YOU GOT THIS BAD HABIT ; Terra. You dont even know your scriptures. Matthew 24:22   And except those days should be shortened, there should *******no flesh be saved********: but for the elect's sake those days shall be ***shortened***. So this happened in 70 ad. Nuclear and hydrogen boms in 70 ad. Go on say it:  defend your beloved doctrine. wakeup. THANK YOU Context NET © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NIV © If those days had not been cut short, no-one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. NASB © “Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NLT © In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, the entire human race will be destroyed. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones. MSG © If these days of trouble were left to run their course, nobody would make it. But on account of God's chosen people, the trouble will be cut short. BBE © And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. NRSV © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NKJV © “And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. KJV And except those days should be shortened (5681)_, there should no flesh be saved (5681)_: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened (5701)_. NASB © “Unless those days had been cut short , no life would have been saved ; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short . GREEK kai CONJei CONDmh PRT-Nekolobwyhsan (5681) V-API-3Pai T-NPFhmerai N-NPFekeinai D-NPFouk PRT-Nan PRTeswyh (5681) V-API-3Spasa A-NSFsarx N-NSFdia PREPde CONJtouv T-APMeklektouv A-APMkolobwyhsontai (5701) V-FPI-3Pai T-NPFhmerai N-NPFekeinai D-NPF NET © [draft] ITL And if those days had not been cut short , no one would be saved . But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short . NET © And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. NET © Notes SO THINGS ARE NOT LIKE YOU PRETEND THEY ARE ; THIS IS IMPORTANT INFO ; I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SIX OR SO YEARS PRIOR TO 70 AD , BUT YOU SHOULD DIG IT UP ;FOR YOUR OWN INFO; THOSE VERSE IN MY UNDERSTANDING ARE REFERRING  TO Israel AND PARTICULARLY TO JERUSALEM , AND YES MANY HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH THE SAVING OF THE ELECT ONES , (I MEAN SURVIVED THE ROMAN EVIL,) DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS Terra. No answer? But now instead you are doing your own bla,bla,bla.bla.bla Nuclear weapons in 70 ad?? NO *FLESH* SHALL BE SAVED. NOT *SOULS* BUT FLESH. wakeup. IT DOES NOT SAY ,WHAT YOU SAY IT SAYS , NOT ALL FLESH DIED ,BECAUSE OF THE ELECT , YOU PLACE THIS VERSE ,AND MAKE ALL BUNG OF THINGS WITH IT IN YOUR MIND ;THEIR IS NO SUCH A THING ; YOU ARE DECEIVING YOURSELF ;

Terra my brother in Christ.

QUOTE:

*NOT ALL FLESH DIED* ,BECAUSE OF THE ELECT ,
UNQUOTE:

ALL NOT DIED OF WHAT??

wakeup.

[terraricca]

And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short.

which days;

Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.

Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,

Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—

Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.
Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.

you should read the history of the event that have lead to the end of Jerusalem ;i have read in as much detail that it can come ,in french and English ;(also accounts of Flavius Joseph)

Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

never to be equaled again THE DISTRESS,??? OR ?

Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

THOSE DAYS = 70 AD PERIODE

Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.
Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.

Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

-For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

so will be the coming of the Son of Man

THIS PART IS TO ME THE MOST CONFUSING PART BY MANY ;THERE INTERPRETATION BECOMES THERE OWN WITNESS

Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.
Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:34)

And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. which days; Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. you should read the history of the event that have lead to the end of Jerusalem ;i have read in as much detail that it can come ,in french and English ;(also accounts of Flavius Joseph) Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. never to be equaled again THE DISTRESS,??? OR ? Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. THOSE DAYS = 70 AD  PERIODE Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. -For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. so will be the coming of the Son of Man THIS PART IS TO ME THE MOST CONFUSING PART BY MANY ;THERE INTERPRETATION BECOMES THERE OWN WITNESS Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

Terra.

QUOTE:
Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————–
WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION
*STANDING* IN THE HOLYP LACE?
WHAT CAN YOU SEE STANDING IN THE
HOLY PLACE TODAY?
—————————————————————-
WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,05:10)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:34) And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. which days; Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. you should read the history of the event that have lead to the end of Jerusalem ;i have read in as much detail that it can come ,in french and English ;(also accounts of Flavius Joseph) Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. never to be equaled again THE DISTRESS,??? OR ? Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. THOSE DAYS = 70 AD  PERIODE Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. -For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. so will be the coming of the Son of Man THIS PART IS TO ME THE MOST CONFUSING PART BY MANY ;THERE INTERPRETATION BECOMES THERE OWN WITNESS Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. Terra. QUOTE: Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—UNQUOTE: —————————————————————– WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION *STANDING* IN THE HOLYP LACE? WHAT CAN YOU SEE STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE TODAY? —————————————————————- WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. wakeup.

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WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70 AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME.

yes, that is what i am saying ,

but ;the great crowd comes out durring their own live into the truth left by the survivors of the great “DISTRESS OF 70 AD”

AL AWAY UNTIL NOW

BUT DO NOT GET ME WRONG ;MEN ARE WORKING HARD TO DESTROY THIS PLANET,AND WITH THEM ANY TRUE BELIEVERS THAT MAY BE AROUND ,THIS GOD WILL NOT LET IT HAPPEN

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Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ;IT WAS THE ROMAN ARMY THAT ENTER THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM ,BUT DID NOT STAY ;THAT WAS CHRIST SIGN TO HIS APOSTLES TO GET OUT OF JERUSALEM ,AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID .

IF I REMEMBER IT WAS 'VESPECIAN THAT DID IT

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,10:22)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,05:10) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:34) And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. which days; Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. you should read the history of the event that have lead to the end of Jerusalem ;i have read in as much detail that it can come ,in french and English ;(also accounts of Flavius Joseph) Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. never to be equaled again THE DISTRESS,??? OR ? Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. THOSE DAYS = 70 AD  PERIODE Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. -For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. so will be the coming of the Son of Man THIS PART IS TO ME THE MOST CONFUSING PART BY MANY ;THERE INTERPRETATION BECOMES THERE OWN WITNESS Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. Terra. QUOTE: Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—UNQUOTE: —————————————————————– WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION *STANDING* IN THE HOLYP LACE? WHAT CAN YOU SEE STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE TODAY? —————————————————————- WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. wakeup. Quote WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70 AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. yes, that is what i am saying , but ;the great crowd comes out durring their own live into the truth left by the survivors of the great “DISTRESS OF 70 AD” AL AWAY UNTIL NOW BUT DO NOT GET ME WRONG ;MEN ARE WORKING HARD TO DESTROY THIS PLANET,AND WITH THEM ANY TRUE BELIEVERS THAT MAY BE AROUND ,THIS GOD WILL NOT LET IT HAPPEN Quote Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ;IT WAS THE ROMAN ARMY THAT ENTER THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM ,BUT DID NOT STAY ;THAT WAS CHRIST SIGN TO HIS APOSTLES TO GET OUT OF JERUSALEM ,AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID . IF I REMEMBER IT WAS 'VESPECIAN THAT DID IT

Terra.

I agree that the temple was destroyed in 70ad.

1.But what is that abomination *set up* in the holy place?
Can you show us?

2.Did this happen in 70ad?

Isaiah 24:20 ***The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard***, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and *not rise again*

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,06:21)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,10:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,05:10) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:34) And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. which days; Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. you should read the history of the event that have lead to the end of Jerusalem ;i have read in as much detail that it can come ,in french and English ;(also accounts of Flavius Joseph) Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. never to be equaled again THE DISTRESS,??? OR ? Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. THOSE DAYS = 70 AD  PERIODE Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. -For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. so will be the coming of the Son of Man THIS PART IS TO ME THE MOST CONFUSING PART BY MANY ;THERE INTERPRETATION BECOMES THERE OWN WITNESS Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. Terra. QUOTE: Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—UNQUOTE: —————————————————————– WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION *STANDING* IN THE HOLYP LACE? WHAT CAN YOU SEE STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE TODAY? —————————————————————- WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. wakeup. Quote WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70 AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. yes, that is what i am saying , but ;the great crowd comes out durring their own live into the truth left by the survivors of the great “DISTRESS OF 70 AD” AL AWAY UNTIL NOW BUT DO NOT GET ME WRONG ;MEN ARE WORKING HARD TO DESTROY THIS PLANET,AND WITH THEM ANY TRUE BELIEVERS THAT MAY BE AROUND ,THIS GOD WILL NOT LET IT HAPPEN Quote Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ;IT WAS THE ROMAN ARMY THAT ENTER THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM ,BUT DID NOT STAY ;THAT WAS CHRIST SIGN TO HIS APOSTLES TO GET OUT OF JERUSALEM ,AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID . IF I REMEMBER IT WAS 'VESPECIAN THAT DID IT Terra. I agree that the temple was destroyed in 70ad. 1.But what is that abomination *set up* in the holy place? Can you show us? 2.Did this happen in 70ad? Isaiah 24:20   ***The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard***, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and *not rise again* wakeup.

I JUST TOLD YOU ;

VESPASIAN WENT TO JERUSALEM AND ENTER THE TEMPLE WHERE NO GENTILES CAN ENTER ;THIS IS THE ABOMINATION ,

BUT HE LEFT ,AND IT IS HIS STEP SON TITUS THAT DID THE DESTRUCTION ;

FOR YOUR OWN INFO ;YOU SHOULD LOOK IN TO IT ;IF NOT IT WILL BE YOUR LOST,

I CAN LEAD YOU TO THE WATER ;BUT FOR THE DRINKING YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN ;

[terraricca]

Isa 24:18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror
will fall into a pit;
whoever climbs out of the pit
will be caught in a snare.

The floodgates of the heavens are opened,
the foundations of the earth shake.
Isa 24:19 The earth is broken up,
the earth is split asunder,
the earth is thoroughly shaken.
Isa 24:20 The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls—never to rise again.

Isa 24:21 In that day the LORD will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
Isa 24:22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished after many days.
Isa 24:23 The moon will be abashed, the sun ashamed;
for the LORD Almighty will reign
on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
and before its elders, gloriously.

IS THIS ANOTHER JUMP TO THE TRIBULATION

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,11:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,06:21) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,10:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,05:10) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:34) And if those days had not been made short there would have been no salvation for any, but because of the saints those days will be made short. which days; Mt 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. you should read the history of the event that have lead to the end of Jerusalem ;i have read in as much detail that it can come ,in french and English ;(also accounts of Flavius Joseph) Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. never to be equaled again THE DISTRESS,??? OR ? Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. THOSE DAYS = 70 AD  PERIODE Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. -For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. so will be the coming of the Son of Man THIS PART IS TO ME THE MOST CONFUSING PART BY MANY ;THERE INTERPRETATION BECOMES THERE OWN WITNESS Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. Terra. QUOTE: Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—UNQUOTE: —————————————————————– WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION *STANDING* IN THE HOLYP LACE? WHAT CAN YOU SEE STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE TODAY? —————————————————————- WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. wakeup. Quote WHAT YOU REALLY ARE SAYING IS, THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAPPENED IN 70 AD;AND THAT THERE IS NONE MORE TO COME. yes, that is what i am saying , but ;the great crowd comes out durring their own live into the truth left by the survivors of the great “DISTRESS OF 70 AD” AL AWAY UNTIL NOW BUT DO NOT GET ME WRONG ;MEN ARE WORKING HARD TO DESTROY THIS PLANET,AND WITH THEM ANY TRUE BELIEVERS THAT MAY BE AROUND ,THIS GOD WILL NOT LET IT HAPPEN Quote Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ;IT WAS THE ROMAN ARMY THAT ENTER THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM ,BUT DID NOT STAY ;THAT WAS CHRIST SIGN TO HIS APOSTLES TO GET OUT OF JERUSALEM ,AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID . IF I REMEMBER IT WAS 'VESPECIAN THAT DID IT Terra. I agree that the temple was destroyed in 70ad. 1.But what is that abomination *set up* in the holy place? Can you show us? 2.Did this happen in 70ad? Isaiah 24:20   ***The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard***, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and *not rise again* wakeup. I JUST TOLD YOU ; VESPASIAN WENT TO JERUSALEM AND ENTER THE TEMPLE WHERE NO GENTILES CAN ENTER ;THIS IS THE ABOMINATION , BUT HE LEFT ,AND IT IS HIS STEP SON TITUS THAT DID THE DESTRUCTION ; FOR YOUR OWN INFO ;YOU SHOULD LOOK IN TO IT ;IF NOT IT WILL BE YOUR LOST, I CAN LEAD YOU TO THE WATER ;BUT FOR  THE DRINKING YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN ;

Terra.

I can not swallow that.

Because:

Danie
l 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

HIS TABERNACLE IS THE *ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION*.
OF WHICH YOU SAY HAPPENED IN 70AD.
HE WILL *PLANT* IT BETWEEN THE SEAS.(PLANT/SETUP).
THE GREAT SEA/THE DEAD SEA.(JERUSALEM).

*AT THAT TIME*,MICHAEL WILL STAND UP.
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN 70AD. BECAUSE THIS IS THE RESURRECTION OF *ALL* THE BELIEVERS.
Daniel 12:1 **And at that time** shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be

*a time of trouble*, *such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time*:
NOT IN 70AD.

and *at that time* thy people shall be delivered, **every one** that shall be found written in the book.

EVERY ONE IN THE TRUTH WILL BE DELIVERED.
DID NOT HAPPEN IN 70AD.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

THIS IS THE RESURRECTION OF THE SECOND COMING.

Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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I can not swallow that.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND I ,IS THAT I STUDY YOU DID NOT AND REFUSE TO DO IT ;I CAN NOW FORECAST YOUR END ,YOU DO NOT LOVE CHRIST DO NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES  AND DO NOT  HAVE A FAITH THAT CAN NOT BE SHAKEN,THIS ARE NOW FACTS ACCORDING TO YOUR VERY OWN WORDS ,HOW CAN ANYONE SAVE YOU IF YOU RUNNING AFTER DECEIT

AND SO YOU HAVE NOW GONE ASTRAY AND FOLLOW THE WAVES OF THE WILD SEA, OF DECEIT  

UNDERSTAND THAT THE FLOOD WAS NOT A “TRIBULATION “BUT AN EVENT .

ALSO SODOM AND GOMORRAH DESTRUCTION  WAS NOT A TRIBULATION BUT “A EVENT “

70 AD IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE PROPHECY,

AND SO IT WILL BE AT THE TIME OF THE END ;A EVENT (CLOSE OF THE AGES)

I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION ,BUT YOU HAVE TO AGREE THE DECEIVER COULD NOT DO THIS TO YOU WITHOUT YOUR OWN CONSENT (WILL TO PARTICIPATE)

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