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The Earth is YHWH’s. Satan is the god of this world/age.
Without delving deep into the language, if Earth and world are the correct words, then that is the difference right there.
YHWH created the Earth.
Satan is the theos of this age/eon/world.
This age is only one age on the Earth.
I guess it depends where one is.
I believe there are two spiritual places in this world – existing side by side – the wheat and the weeds.
Scripture tells us that the owner (God) planted wheat in His field and the devil planted weeds among the wheat. But so as not to disturb the wheat, both must grow side by side until the owners harvest.
If we are with God, we know that God is very active in this world/on this earth, so God is the God of our world and earth.
The opposite would be the enemy and being a part of the enemies world, wouldn’t it?
Hope that makes sense.
If the saints are already ruling for 2000yrs now; they obviously have done a bad job.
It depends where you are coming from.
For there will be a great falling away coming.?
Man will be lovers of themselves, rather than lovers of God.?
The love of many will grow cold.?
There are many false prophets and false christs.?Yes, but Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth to gather them together for war their number as the sands of the sea. That will shortly happen/ is already beginning to unfold.
Many are called but a few chosen.?
God is fiercely angry,because the land is desolate.?
There are only a few who follow the Lamb wheresoever he goeth.
They are the 144k sealed.Wakeup, who said God is fiercely angry and the land is desolate?
Revelations says there is a multitude of people before the throne – so many they can’t be counted.
In the end God will destroy the destroyers of the earth.
‘The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.’
Scripture says the 144,000 are Jews.
Do you think the world is going to continue on how it is much longer?
Wakeup, Zechariah 14 is fulfilled. Jesus is the light. Whoever follows him will never walk in darkness (it is continuous day). His feet stood on the Mt of Olives. Jerusalem dwells in security, it is heavenly and raised up (Galatioans 4:25, Hebrew 12:22). Living waters flow from Jerusalem, from the heart (John 4:10-13, John 7:38). God is the God over all of the earth (to those who are his from every country and nation).
“Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood– and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father– to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. (Revelation 1:6)
That was speaking of the future. Jesus will be king of kings ruling the earth with a rod of iron. And His saints ruling with Him. This evil system must be brought to nothing first. Babylon the great must be destroyed.
His kingdom will come to full fruitation when evil is destroyed. Yes.
Do you understand the parable of the wheat and the weeds? Please explain it to me from your point of view.
Hi Camillia,
“w” is 23, not 6.
…and the Hebrew letter “vav” (ו) translates into English as a “V”, never a ‘w’?
Hi Ed, not so.
From Hebrew for Christians.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Vav/vav.html
The sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet is called “Vav” and has the sound of “v” as in “vine.
In ancient Hebrew, “Vav” may have been pronounced “w” and is sometimes translitereated as “w”And from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waw_(letter)
Waw (wāw, also vau or vav) is the sixth letter of the Northwest Semitic family of scripts, including Phoenician, Aramaic, Hebrew, Syriac, and Arabic (“sixth” in abjadi order; it is 27th in modern Arabic order).
In Arabic and thus in most Semitic languages it represents the sound [w], though in some, such as Modern Hebrew, and the Indo-European Persian language, it represents [v] instead.You are talking about modern Hebrew, not ancient Hebrew.
W is 6 in ancient Hebrew, plus in Aramaic and Syriac.
The beast is a kingdom, and the image of the beast is an image of that kingdom.
What image of a kingdom do we have today with the numbers 666.
What image of a kingdom do we have today with the numbers 666.
Hi Camillia,
Muslims themselves call the quran 666.
And the image of the beast is world conquest.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODCamillia.
If satan was,and is, still in prison; then that makes the saints look worse than bad.
They have not done their job; there are more than 4000 denominations. All not in agreement;
For the land is desolate(jer.25:34–38). Plus there will be a great falling away.
And many are called but a few chosen.
The multitudes coming out of great tribulations,consist of saints of all generations.
Not just the one generation.
Zech 14 is fulfilled you say? Can you please explain when?
wakeup.
As usual, this thread has been hi-jacked by those who prefer to endlessly discuss unimportant issues. It is possible, I think even probable that the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath is only weeks away, it would be good for us to focus on that;
The Appointed time Habakkuk 2:3
Isaiah 60:1-22 Arise! Shine, Jerusalem, for your light has come – over you the glory of the Lord has dawned. Though darkness covers the earth, on you the Lord shines. Over you His glory will appear. Nations and kings will come to your light. Look – your sons and daughters are coming from afar, all assembling in the Land. You will rejoice at the sight. The wealth of nations will be yours. Droves of camels laden with treasure will come and flocks of sheep will cover the Land, acceptable offerings for My altar and to enhance the splendour of My Temple.
Who are these that sail along like clouds? They are vessels assembling from the coasts and islands bringing your children from far away, their treasures with them, for the honour of the Holy One of Israel. In My wrath, I struck you down, now in My favour I show you pity. Foreigners and kings will work for you.
For the nation that refuses to serve you will perish, there will be widespread devastation among such nations. The glory of Lebanon shall come to you, to adorn My holy sanctuary. All who reviled you shall pay you homage, calling Jerusalem “The City of the Lord”. I shall give My Land and people everlasting renown. You will receive the best gifts from kings and the nations. Then you will acknowledge that your Redeemer is the Mighty One of Israel. For copper you shall have gold, for iron, silver. You will live in peace and righteousness will rule over you. No more will havoc and ruin be within your borders. Your walls will be deliverance and your gates, praise.
The sun and moon will no longer be your light, for the Lord will be your everlasting light. Your days of mourning will be ended. The Lord’s people, all of them righteous, will possess the Land forever. They are My own planting, the work of My hands for My adornment. The few will become a great nation.
At the appointed time, I, the Lord, will bring this swiftly to pass. Psalm 102:12-22, Isa.49:8
Ref. REB. Some verses abridged.
‘At the Appointed time’: God has appointed times for His celebrations and actions. Acts 17:31 In Leviticus 23:24, He decreed that His people should observe the first day of the seventh month, as Yom Teruah; the day of Trumpet sounding. That day is Tishri 1 – the first of the fall feasts, usually coming in September. There was no explanation given by God for this reminder and the only time it has had significance was when Ezra read the Torah to the returned Jews. Nehemiah 8:1-6
But it seems probable that God has in mind a more dramatic fulfilment for this Day. There is coming a Day of vengeance and wrath, the Lord’s judgement/punishment of the nations, described many times as a Day of trumpet sounds and great noise heard around the world.
‘darkness covers the earth’: It may be months before the smoke and ash from the ‘widespread devastation’ of this disastrous fire from the sky clears. Jeremiah 4:23-27
However, this may also be allegorized: the darkness being people’s separation from God and the Lord our everlasting Light, those who enjoy the Lord’s favour.
‘The Lord’s people, all of them righteous, assembling from the coasts and islands’, Isaiah 49:8-11, Ezekiel 20:34. They travel on every type of transport to the new country of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5, Isaiah 66:20
‘Over you, His Glory will appear’, His Glory, not his presence. ‘Then you will acknowledge your Redeemer’. The Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign will come later.
‘The wealth of nations will be yours’, This happened before; at the first Exodus, the Israelites took treasure from the Egyptians. Exodus 11:2
‘The splendour of My Temple’, One of the first projects of the new inhabitants of Beulah, will be to build the third Temple. The Temple mount will have been cleared and cleansed by the fires and earthquakes of the Lord’s punishment.
Wonderful scriptures Keras.
You also believe that the jews will be brought back to their land,of which not many can see,
because of the oppressors. They have kept many in their prisons, and will not open the doors.
Because the flock love it that way. They love soothing words,but not the truth.
We can see eye to eye,except a few minor disagreements.
You believe that israel will be in peace BEFORE the coming,and I believe israel,
will be living in peace AFTER the kingdom is set up.Because israel will be trodden by the gentiles for 3/half years just before the coming.
These are just minor things,which we will see when it happens….
JERUSALEM:
Jerusalem the city of peace(God’s woman) is now in darkness;because of the oppressors.(spiritual Jerusalem).
Physical jerusalem is in turmoil,and in spiritual darkness.
The (christian) land is desolate. But She(God’s woman) will be full of light when Christ and all his saints will be in charge.
Knowledge will cover the earth as the sea covers the earth.
Everyone; young and old, will know God. As of today: no man knows the Son,but the Father, and no man knows the Father but the Son;
and HE whom the Son will reveal him.Many are called but a few chosen.(few).
The great tribulation is for the lip worshippers;they must be made white.
Their robes are not pure white.Jews and gentile christians.
As for the non christian jews; they will be chosen by choice of all generations.
They will be in paradise; a land of milk and honey,and peace in the Lord.
Which is the kingdom of God and his saints,which have inherited all things.
They will be taught by the saints,and the jews also will teach the remnant of the gentiles outside the square.
Both will multiply during the 1000yrs.
Many will come and learn of the Lord. Many also will not learn, because the fallen angels are there to tempt them.
When the 1000 yrs are expired; satan will be let loose to bring them all to one place, to be destroyed by fire from God, from heaven.
This is the war of gog and his people magog. Gog is the prince of magog; the hard headed non believers.
And satan and all his angels will be cast into the fire. Then the second judgement,of all people, and all religions, of all generations,
will be judged by the books of life. This will be the second death. The sheep on the right will be accepted and changed also.
Then the earth will be melted,and a new earth created.Earth will be as heaven,and God will dwell with us.
God all in all.
We can next discus Jesus the Word of God; which no man knows if you wish?
Shalom.
wakeup.
Hi Ed,
So you believe that Islam is the beast and the Quran is the image of the beast?
Can’t quite see how that fits in with what is written in Revelations.
Wakeup,
Churches and denominations have little to do with anything. They are just places where people go to make friends (imo). Those who attend are at risk of being misled also.
Yes, Zechariah 14 has been fulfilled. I explained it to you ages ago.
You people are too earthly.
Jerusalem the city of peace(God’s woman) is now in darkness;because of the oppressors.(spiritual Jerusalem).
Look at what scripture says:
Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
You say Jerusalem (God’s woman) is now in darkness? That is wrong.
But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Why are you looking for an earthly nation fulfillment? (no need to answer).
Hi Ed,
So you believe that Islam is the beast and the Quran is the image of the beast?
Can’t quite see how that fits in with what is written in Revelations.
Hi Camilla,
The leopard bear lion beast is indeed islamic.
Lion – Babylon
bear – Mado-Persia
Leopard – Greece
All these past empires are all now islamic.Rev.13:13 is about the quran, see also Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14
If you want to discuss this in more detail, I’ll bring up the thread.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODCamellia.
Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
THIS IS THE DAY OF THE LORD.JESUS BIRTH WAS NOT THE DAY OF THE LORD.HE DID NOT COME TO RULE,BUT TO reveal THE LIGHT.
HE CAME TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF FOR THE WORLD.(MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD).Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
THE GATHERING OF ALL THE NATIONS AGAINST JERUSALEM HAS NOT HAPPENED. THIS WILL BE AT THE 6TH TRUMPET.
THIS IS NOT SPEAKING OF 70 AD.WHICH ARE THE ROMANS ONLY.Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
THE LORD IS STILL SITTING NEXT TO HIS FATHER,UNTILL ALL HIS ENEMIES WILL BE PUT UNDER HIS FEET.
HE HAS NOT FOUGHT AGAINST NATIONS.BUT WILL AT HIS APPEARING.(7TH TRUMP).Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
THIS CLEAVING HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. WILL HAPPEN AT THE GREAT SHAKING OF THE EARTH.ISRAEL WILL BE PARTED IN THREE PARTS.
THE MOUNT OF OLIVES SPLIT EAST TO WEST; AND THE MOUNTAINS OF JERUSALEM SPLIT NORTH TO SOUTH.Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
THE COMING WITH THE SAINTS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET;UNTILL THE 7TH TRUMPET.THE DAY OF THE LORD.
HE WILL COME WITH A SWORD IN HIS MOUTH.Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
NEVER HAPPENED TO ALL THE EARTH,BUT JUST ON THE DAY OF HIS DEATH,IN JERUSALEM ONLY.Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light. SEE THE SIXTH SEAL,REV 6.THE SIGNS OF THE COMING.
Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
LIVING WATERS (HOLY SPIRIT) NOT POURED ON THE CHURCHES AS YET, UNTILL CHRIST AND HIS SAINTS RULE.AS OF TODAY; ONLY DIVISIONS;
AND CONFUSION. AND MANY SOOTHING WORDS TO PUT ASLEEP THE MANY.Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
JESUS IS NOT KING IN HIS KINGDOM AS YET,UNTILL BABYLON IS DESTROYED.HE WILL COME WITH A SWORD IN HIS MOUTH.
THEN HE WILL RULE AS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS WITH HIS SAINTS.RULE OVER THE JEWS BROUGHT BACK BY CHOICE AND OVER THE
REMNANTS OF THE GENTILES;OUTSIDE THE SQUARE.Zechariah 14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.ISRAEL IS STILL AS IT WAS,ONLY MORE CONCRETE,AND POLUTION.
JERUSALEM IS TODAY SPRITITUALLY CALLED; SODOM AND EGYPT.Zechariah 14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
NO MORE DESTRUCTION,AND SAFELY INHABITED IS THE OPPOSITE TO NOW. WHEN THE KINGDOM IS SET UP; THEN THE EARTH WILL BE AT PEACE,
RULED WITH A ROD OF IRON.Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
NOT HAPPENED YET;UNTILL THE 6TH TRUMPET.THOSE PLAGUES ARE THE CAUSE OF MODERN WARFARE,NOT SPEARS, ARROWS AND STONES.Zechariah 14:13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
NOT YET,BUT SOON,DURING THE GREAT FALLING AWAY,AND THE LOVE OF MANY SHALL GROW COLD.Zechariah 14:14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
THIS IS NOT YET,UNTILL BABYLON IS DESTROYED,AND ALL THE WEALTH, THAT THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM THE POOR WILL BE GIVEN TO THE POOR.Zechariah 14:15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
THESE PLAGUES ARE OF MODERN WARFARE; NOT OF BOWS AND ARROWS AND SWORDS.Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
EVERYONE THAT IS **LEFT** OF THE NATIONS. (REMNANTS AFTER THE WAR).GENTILES WILL COME TO WORSHIP THE LORD.Zechariah 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH TO COME UP TO JERUSALEM TO WORSHIP,IS NOT YET,UNTIL JERUSALM IS MADE HOLY,AND THE LORD AS KING.Zechariah 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
EGYPT NOR NATIONS HAS NEVER COME UP TO JERUSALEM TO CELELEBRATE,THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES.Zechariah 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
NATIONS TODAY ONLY CELEBRATE NEW YEAR, CHRISTMAS AND EASTER. TIME FOR DRINKING, AND THE REST.Zechariah 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD’S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
NO HOLINESS IS FOUND ON EARTH TODAY, BUT THE FALLING AWAY FROM THE TRUTH.MANY ARE CALLED BUT A FEW, FEW,CHOSEN.
FEW MEANS EXACTLY THAT,(FEW). MANY ALSO WILL SAY LORD LORD.(MANY).(NOT FEW).Zechariah 14:21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
THE CANANITES ARE STILL IN THE LAND, AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.(CANANINTES=MUSLEMS=ISLAM).
MANY CANANITES ARE ALSO CHRISTIANS.THEY THAT HAVE PAST THE TEST WILL BE SAINTS ALSO.
YOU NEED TO REVIEW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, I SAY THIS WITH RESPECT.
NOT TO BRING YOU OR ANYONE DOWN.THAT IS NOT MY PURPOSE,BUT THE OPPOSITE.wakeup.
Camellia.
What you are are saying is:
That all the wars and confusion and the divisions and falling away is not caused by satan,because he was in prison.
He is not guilty of all the evil done on this earth;and yet he is the god of this world.?
Please explain?
Are the 7heads not his empires?wakeup.
Keras,
Twin solar storms arrive at earth.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/sep/12/twin-solar-storms-arrive-at-earth
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