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Nick….This is only (A DAY) of salvation not the ONLY DAY, there will be other Days of Salvation When God's WILL of Saving His whole creation Will come about. For God does (ALL) things after the Council of (HIS WILL) and GOD is NOT WILLING that ANY PARISH>Is that not what He Said?.
Hi,
Mark 3:35
“For whoever does the will of God, he is My brother and sister and mother.”Not everyone finds themselves in these categories.
Matthew 21:31
“Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 03 2008,16:28) Hi,
Mark 3:35
“For whoever does the will of God, he is My brother and sister and mother.”Not everyone finds themselves in these categories.
Matthew 21:31
“Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you.
Greetings Nick…..Iam certain that you will not respond for what ever reason or reasons you have and more than likely you will end this thread….Having said that….My question to you is….Do you believe God will give every living human being a chance at salvation during the course of his perfect plan….I know there will be many who elect to ignore the invitation but none the less it will be extended….Or do you believe their are those destined to reject Gods offer for salvation as a result of predetermination…Nick….remember the Pharisees thought they were doing God work and keeping his laws and were always quoting scriptures and continually read the Torah and thought they were the Judges of what was spiritual and Jesus did not say they would (NOT) go into the Kingdom, but that the tax collectors and Prostitutes would go in (BEFORE) them. Again God's WILL is to save everyon.
IMO………peace ……….gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 03 2008,16:14) Hi GB,
God wants men to respond to His offer.
Stiffnecked men often men have other priorities.
Nick…..I agree with that statement, all carnal men are enemies of God, Just as it says the carnal mind is at enmity with God is not subject to the laws of God neither indeed can be. A person who is carnal minded cant help it he is by nature against God. God must move on Him and change Him and His heart to become receptive to his WILL. Jesus said (NO) man (CAN) come unto me except the Father draw Him. It's impossible for a man or woman to do on their own.peace……….gene
Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 04 2008,00:45) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 03 2008,16:28) Hi,
Mark 3:35
“For whoever does the will of God, he is My brother and sister and mother.”Not everyone finds themselves in these categories.
Matthew 21:31
“Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you.
Greetings Nick…..Iam certain that you will not respond for what ever reason or reasons you have and more than likely you will end this thread….Having said that….My question to you is….Do you believe God will give every living human being a chance at salvation during the course of his perfect plan….I know there will be many who elect to ignore the invitation but none the less it will be extended….Or do you believe their are those destined to reject Gods offer for salvation as a result of predetermination…
Hi TJ,
Is it written?
Rom10
14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
God says the Word has gone around the world.
Those that live hear of it.
The rest is in His hands.Hi GB,
Do you see these statements as some sort of hidden promise of salvation to the pharisees?Mt23
13But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.14Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
8The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[galatians:3:8].
The will of God is to keep faith in jesus christ and his works to receive holy spirit and salvation,inheritance to heaven etc…Therefore, the will of God is “Gospel'” and through listening,spreadin the gospel(faith in Jesus) we are fulfilling the will of God.
psbNick………In all those scriptures you quoted and rightly by the way, Yet that does not do away with where Jesus said they (WOULD) go into the Kingdom of God, even if it is after the tax collectors and Prostitutes go in. Cant you see in this that God's WILL and intent it to SAVE ALL. What God Wills He will do, “for God does (all things) after the council of His own WILL”. And if God can save you and me, don't you think He can save everyone else also?
Hi GB,
Mt21
31Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before[4254] you.32For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
Number 4254
Transliteration:
proago {pro-ag'-o}
Word Origin:
from 4253 and 71
TDNT:
1:130,20
Part of Speech:
verb
Usage in the KJV:
go before 14, bring forth 2, went before 2258 1, bring out 1Total: 18
Definition:
to lead forward, lead forth
one from a place in which he has lain hidden from view, as from a prison
in a forensic sense, to bring one forth to trial
to go before
preceding, prior in time, previous
to proceed, go forward
in a bad sense, to go further than is right. or properSo Jesus was not promising salvation to all men here.
Context-he was speaking with the Jews [the Chief priests and elders] and they do enjoy a special relationship with God. But Jesus mentioned the need for repentance and belief showing the Jews that they had yet to respond to the call for these things which are a prerequisite for entry.
So he was not saying they would not do so, and some did, but was saying thay had yet to do so.
Nick……..repentance is not a act of self will, no one can repent on their own, scriptures plainly prove that, Repentance is given by the effectual power of God into the Minds by changing our thinking by his HOLY SPIRIT IN US. Those Jews who killed Jesus did not repent until the Holy Spirit convicted them of their crime and after that they repented Not all only the ones who God wanted to did, because it say God added to the church 3000, that day. That why we are saved by GRACE (Gods influencing on the heart).and not of ourselves. It's all by GRACE, leaving no room for boasting by anyone. IMO
Hi,
How strange that some would say that because Jesus went to the chosen people
his words do not speak to all men.Hi CO,
Jesus spoke of his kingdom
and I am surprised you seem to see yourself as unable to enter it if his words cannot reach you.Hi CO,
You speak of four gospels – at least.
There is onely ONE, the Gospel
Matthew 4:23
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching THE gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.Of course THE GOSPEL does not belong to any man or group but is for all.
All must be given an opportunity to repent.Hi CO,
Paul and the apostles carried on the work preaching THE gospel.
Acts 15:7
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,03:18) Nick………In all those scriptures you quoted and rightly by the way, Yet that does not do away with where Jesus said they (WOULD) go into the Kingdom of God, even if it is after the tax collectors and Prostitutes go in. Cant you see in this that God's WILL and intent it to SAVE ALL. What God Wills He will do, “for God does (all things) after the council of His own WILL”. And if God can save you and me, don't you think He can save everyone else also?
Gen I think I have asked you once before if you say ALL will be saved, do you really mean all of mankind or just those that the Father gave to Jesus?
IreneGB,
You say
“Nick……..repentance is not a act of self will, no one can repent on their own, scriptures plainly prove that, Repentance is given by the effectual power of God into the Minds by changing our thinking by his HOLY SPIRIT IN US. “Of course you are not saying all men are already reborn from above
The Holy Spirit of God does not dwell in all men.
The Spirit of God dwells in cleansed vessels.Repentance is unto that cleansing by the washing in the blood of the Lamb.
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