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chosenone …….you present a good case it seams to fit from what i understand from scripture also. good Post. It says He came to his own and His own received Him not , but all who received him he gave power to be sons of God. Israel was the first to be called but the last to be chosen. And i believe He will gather the House of Israel and be their King in place of David. in the future, in fact He will be King of all the earth. But we must remember, there is also an Israel of God, Thats not of the nation of Israel.
peace to you and yours……….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2008,12:53) chosenone …….you present a good case it seams to fit from what i understand from scripture also. good Post. It says He came to his own and His own received Him not , but all who received him he gave power to be sons of God. Israel was the first to be called but the last to be chosen. And i believe He will gather the House of Israel and be their King in place of David. in the future, in fact He will be King of all the earth. But we must remember, there is also an Israel of God, Thats not of the nation of Israel. peace to you and yours……….gene
Hi Gene
Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated. We seem pretty close in our understanding of scripture.
Just one ting, I'm not sure what you meant by 'Israel of God', would you explain that to me please.Blessings.
Chosenone…..Gal 6:16..> Paul tell the Galatians , “and as many as by this rule do walk, peace upon the them and mercy on the (Israel of God ). There is another place where it says he is not a Jew outwardly (meaning by the flesh) but he is a Jew who is inwardly.
The true nation of God is the spiritual Israel, the word Israel means (overcomer), that also applies with the word like there is both a physical Israel and a Spiritual Israel, there is a physical Jew and a spiritual Jew.
Co..remember Jacob's name was changed from a physical name to a spiritual name (Israel) by God it means prevailed or overcomer.
Just as there is a physical Israel of God there is a Spiritual Israel of God of which we are part of.
peace and love to you and yours…………gene
Hi GB,
So is the new gospel that all are saved?
So where in the PREACHING of Paul or the disciples did they say this?Acts17 shows Paul preaching that rather all must repent.
So…with every breath the whole blood line war , lines up and has really been a escape goat?
from the time of Davids sure Mercy rain, he David taught his son Solomon that no more was there unclean meat, God loved solomon very much, all was within the heart, and he took foreign woman and brought them into the kingdom, without fear, then Jerusalem began to be created for all children, as many as it could bear, as the family in which Jesus the Son of David came to arrive on earth. tormented and killed, lied about along the way, by the Moses followers.
who required no sinners in line, and a virgin birth? and will manipulate earth unrtll they and their rulings are crushedNick…….I don't have the foggiest idea what your talking about and i don't think any one else does either.
Hi Gene.
You'll just have to put up with Nicks unbiblical view of scripture. I have shown him many times Col.1:25… which is granted to me (Paul) to you, to COMPLETE THE WORD OF GOD, he can't get it into his head what this means. So just ignore him when he repies with some jibberish when he is stumped for an answer.Blessings.
Hi CO,
25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil [4137] the word of God;Number 4137
Transliteration:
pleroo {play-ro'-o}
Word Origin:
from 4134
TDNT:
6:286,867
Part of Speech:
verb
Usage in the KJV:
fulfil 51, fill 19, be full 7, complete 2, end 2, misc 9Total: 90
Definition:
to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full
to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally
I abound, I am liberally supplied
to render full, i.e. to complete
to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim
to consummate: a number
to make complete in every particular, to render perfect
to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)
to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise
of matters of duty: to perform, execute
of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish
to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilmentCOMPLETE does not mean ADD TO
Please explain this brother Nick, just don't copy and paste a dictionary meaning which is in many ways. The one you are infering please spell out that gives you more stress on what you believe. I am sorry again to criticise you. I know you have lot of knowledge but put in right direction so that others may see it.
Thanks
AdamHi GM,
There is only one gospel of the Kingdom.
Jesus brought it and his brothers have continued his work.Any new gospel is false.
Galatians 1
6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Thus universalism is false as it offers another gospel…or two…or three….
What is this eternal gospel mentioned in Rev 14:6 ?
6 “And I saw another angel flying through the midst of heaven, having the eternal gospel, to preach unto them that sit upon the earth and over every nation and tribe and tongue and people”
Is it different from that of Jesus and Paul?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,17:11) Hi CO,
25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil [4137] the word of God;Number 4137
Transliteration:
pleroo {play-ro'-o}
Word Origin:
from 4134
TDNT:
6:286,867
Part of Speech:
verb
Usage in the KJV:
fulfil 51, fill 19, be full 7, complete 2, end 2, misc 9Total: 90
Definition:
to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full
to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally
I abound, I am liberally supplied
to render full, i.e. to complete
to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim
to consummate: a number
to make complete in every particular, to render perfect
to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)
to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise
of matters of duty: to perform, execute
of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish
to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilmentCOMPLETE does not mean ADD TO
I agreeQuote (chosenone @ July 02 2008,16:53) Hi Gene.
You'll just have to put up with Nicks unbiblical view of scripture. I have shown him many times Col.1:25… which is granted to me (Paul) to you, to COMPLETE THE WORD OF GOD, he can't get it into his head what this means. So just ignore him when he repies with some jibberish when he is stumped for an answer.Blessings.
Actually your definition is out of line with scripture…In order for Paul to complete GOD's word in your definition ….that would mean that Paul would should be mentioned along with GOD at 2 Tim 3:16-18….but he isn't…so there is no way that scrripture could mean what you think it does…Scriptures are not “Paul breathed”…they are GOD breathed…Paul was inspired of by GOD not by himself
Hi,
The one gospel belongs to God.Rom1
1Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,This gospel was given to Paul
Gal1
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul revealed this gospel to his brothers
1Cor15
1Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand,Lemme clarify…I agree with Nick on their being one Gospel AND I agree with CHosen on there being multiple Gospels…
I'll try to do this as simply as Possible…
Jesus Gospel- I am he…Repent..God's Kingdom is at hand
Pauls Gospel aka Our Gospel- Jesus Died and was resurrected…Repent be made new…Christ is King
Similar Gospels…same function..
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