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(1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:40) (1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values. Colter
Colter.A growing up child with questions;where can he go for answers,if there was no bible?
Can he just sit under a tree and wait for the answers.
If that was so;then each of them will come with their own answers.This wil only cause strive; not one true knowledge.
Each will follow their own path.Jesus has given us that path to follow,if all go through that same path;all will come up with the *one knowledge*.
Unfortunately, men have come in, and have split that path into many different paths. But the ones following that *one* path, will only be the ones that will come to the truth.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:33) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:40) (1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values. Colter
Colter.A growing up child with questions;where can he go for answers,if there was no bible?
Can he just sit under a tree and wait for the answers.
If that was so;then each of them will come with their own answers.This wil only cause strive; not one true knowledge.
Each will follow their own path.Jesus has given us that path to follow,if all go through that same path;all will come up with the *one knowledge*.
Unfortunately, men have come in, and have split that path into many different paths. But the ones following that *one* path, will only be the ones that will come to the truth.
wakeup.
Jesus did indeed free man to follow his own path to God.The Catholic doctrine of Bible inerrancy stagnates and constricts that freedom in addition to teaching falsehoods about creation, history and worst of all a God created in mans own image.
It would be better that a child find God on his own rather then to be subject to the horrifying interpretations of Bible worshipers.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:52) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:33) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:40) (1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values. Colter
Colter.A growing up child with questions;where can he go for answers,if there was no bible?
Can he just sit under a tree and wait for the answers.
If that was so;then each of them will come with their own answers.This wil only cause strive; not one true knowledge.
Each will follow their own path.Jesus has given us that path to follow,if all go through that same path;all will come up with the *one knowledge*.
Unfortunately, men have come in, and have split that path into many different paths. But the ones following that *one* path, will only be the ones that will come to the truth.
wakeup.
Jesus did indeed free man to follow his own path to God.The Catholic doctrine of Bible inerrancy stagnates and constricts that freedom in addition to teaching falsehoods about creation, history and worst of all a God created in mans own image.
It would be better that a child find God on his own rather then to be subject to the horrifying interpretations of Bible worshipers.
Colter
Colter.Why are you always comparing religion,in this case the rcc.
with the Holy bible?The roman church preach the bible and jesus, just to infiltrate the truth and replace it with lies. That is the church of satan.
Not only the Roman church unfortunately.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,23:10) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:52) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:33) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:40) (1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values. Colter
Colter.A growing up child with questions;where can he go for answers,if there was no bible?
Can he just sit under a tree and wait for the answers.
If that was so;then each of them will come with their own answers.This wil only cause strive; not one true knowledge.
Each will follow their own path.Jesus has given us that path to follow,if all go through that same path;all will come up with the *one knowledge*.
Unfortunately, men have come in, and have split that path into many different paths. But the ones following that *one* path, will only be the ones that will come to the truth.
wakeup.
Jesus did indeed free man to follow his own path to God.The Catholic doctrine of Bible inerrancy stagnates and constricts that freedom in addition to teaching falsehoods about creation, history and worst of all a God created in mans own image.
It would be better that a child find God on his own rather then to be subject to the horrifying interpretations of Bible worshipers.
Colter
Colter.Why are you always comparing religion,in this case the rcc.
with the Holy bible?The roman church preach the bible and jesus, just to infiltrate the truth and replace it with lies. That is the church of satan.
Not only the Roman church unfortunately.
wakeup.
Because the RCC put your Bible together silly.
They proclaimed their book is inerrant and their councils were inerrant. Unfortunately the reformation didn't go far enough, that sickness was carried forward. Now the evangelicals have turned it into a freak show!Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,23:29) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,23:10) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:52) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:33) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:40) (1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values. Colter
Colter.A growing up child with questions;where can he go for answers,if there was no bible?
Can he just sit under a tree and wait for the answers.
If that was so;then each of them will come with their own answers.This wil only cause strive; not one true knowledge.
Each will follow their own path.Jesus has given us that path to follow,if all go through that same path;all will come up with the *one knowledge*.
Unfortunately, men have come in, and have split that path into many different paths. But the ones following that *one* path, will only be the ones that will come to the truth.
wakeup.
Jesus did indeed free man to follow his own path to God.The Catholic doctrine of Bible inerrancy stagnates and constricts that freedom in addition to teaching falsehoods about creation, history and worst of all a God created in mans own image.
It would be better that a child find God on his own rather then to be subject to the horrifying interpretations of Bible worshipers.
Colter
Colter.Why are you always comparing religion,in this case the rcc.
with the Holy bible?The roman church preach the bible and jesus, just to infiltrate the truth and replace it with lies. That is the church of satan.
Not only the Roman church unfortunately.
wakeup.
Because the RCC put your Bible together silly. They proclaimed their book is inerrant and their councils were inerrant. Unfortunately the reformation didn't go far enough, that sickness was carried forward. Now the evangelicals have turned it into a freak show!Colter
Colter.Here again, you are denying the power of God.
He has more widom and power, than any church or any cunning men,or satan.God will not leave us in the hands of cunning men,under the
power of satan.Have faith in Gods power,that he can, and will provide.
JEHOVAH JEREH.Seek the scriptures, so you also, can have life.
wakeup.
Here again you are to proud to face the facts of who created the scripture and why they are corrupt. You believe some of the dumbest things simply because the Church claimed they were “the Word of God.”
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:03) Here again you are to proud to face the facts of who created the scripture and why they are corrupt. You believe some of the dumbest things simply because the Church claimed they were “the Word of God.” Colter
Colter.Do you really believe that God provides us with everything.
we need; or not? Spiritual and material.The God I worship is not impotent.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,03:20) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:03) Here again you are to proud to face the facts of who created the scripture and why they are corrupt. You believe some of the dumbest things simply because the Church claimed they were “the Word of God.” Colter
Colter.Do you really believe that God provides us with everything.
we need; or not? Spiritual and material.The God I worship is not impotent.
“in Him we all live and move and have our being.”Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:36) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,03:20) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:03) Here again you are to proud to face the facts of who created the scripture and why they are corrupt. You believe some of the dumbest things simply because the Church claimed they were “the Word of God.” Colter
Colter.Do you really believe that God provides us with everything.
we need; or not? Spiritual and material.The God I worship is not impotent.
“in Him we all live and move and have our being.”Colter
Colter.Do you believe that God can preserve his teachings
so we can find?
Or did he let men corrupt his word?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,08:39) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:36) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,03:20) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:03) Here again you are to proud to face the facts of who created the scripture and why they are corrupt. You believe some of the dumbest things simply because the Church claimed they were “the Word of God.” Colter
Colter.Do you really believe that God provides us with everything.
we need; or not? Spiritual and material.The God I worship is not impotent.
“in Him we all live and move and have our being.”Colter
Colter.Do you believe that God can preserve his teachings
so we can find?
Or did he let men corrupt his word?wakeup.
As the Living Word, spiritual Father, teacher and leader, God is present in the heart of all who seek him, in all ages.The inspiring truths realized by man in different ages can be imperfectly preserved, but that does not mean God is done teaching and leading.
Wakeup, I would like your honest opinion of this clip of Jesus from the UB? Is there truth in it?
“You well know that, while a kindhearted father loves his family as a whole, he so regards them as a group because of his strong affection for each individual member of that family. No longer must you approach the Father in heaven as a child of Israel but as a child of God. As a group, you are indeed the children of Israel, but as individuals, each one of you is a child of God. I have come, not to reveal the Father to the children of Israel, but rather to bring this knowledge of God and the revelation of his love and mercy to the individual believer as a genuine personal experience. The prophets have all taught you that Yahweh cares for his people, that God loves Israel. But I have come among you to proclaim a greater truth, one which many of the later prophets also grasped, that God loves you—every one of you—as individuals. All these generations have you had a national or racial religion; now have I come to give you a personal religion.
145:2.5 “But even this is not a new idea. Many of the spiritually minded among you have known this truth, inasmuch as some of the prophets have so instructed you. Have you not read in the Scripture where the Prophet Jeremiah says: `In those days they shall no more say, the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge. Every man shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge. Behold, the days shall come when I will make a new covenant with my people, not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers when I brought them out of the land of Egypt, but according to the new way. I will even write my law in their hearts. I will be their God, and they shall be my people. In that day they shall not say, one man to his neighbor, do you know the Lord? Nay! For they shall all know me personally, from the least to the greatest.’
145:2.6 “Have you not read these promises? Do you not believe the Scripture? Do you not understand that the prophet’s words are fulfilled in what you behold this very day? And did not Jeremiah exhort you to make religion an affair of the heart, to relate yourselves to God as individuals? Did not the prophet tell you that the God of heaven would search your individual hearts? And were you not warned that the natural human heart is deceitful above all things and oftentimes desperately wicked?
145:2.7 “Have you not read also where Ezekiel taught even your fathers that religion must become a reality in your individual experiences? No more shall you use the proverb which says, `The fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge.’ `As I live,’ says the Lord God, `behold all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son. Only the soul that sins shall die.’ And then Ezekiel foresaw even this day when he spoke in behalf of God, saying: `A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you.’
145:2.8 “No more should you fear that God will punish a nation for the sin of an individual; neither will the Father in heaven punish one of his believing children for the sins of a nation, albeit the individual member of any family must often suffer the material consequences of family mistakes and group transgressions. Do you not realize that the hope of a better nation—or a better world—is bound up in the progress and enlightenment of the individual?”
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,09:01) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,08:39) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:36) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,03:20) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:03) Here again you are to proud to face the facts of who created the scripture and why they are corrupt. You believe some of the dumbest things simply because the Church claimed they were “the Word of God.” Colter
Colter.Do you really believe that God provides us with everything.
we need; or not? Spiritual and material.The God I worship is not impotent.
“in Him we all live and move and have our being.”Colter
Colter.Do you believe that God can preserve his teachings
so we can find?
Or did he let men corrupt his word?wakeup.
As the Living Word, spiritual Father, teacher and leader, God is present in the heart of all who seek him, in all ages.The inspiring truths realized by man in different ages can be imperfectly preserved, but that does not mean God is done teaching and leading.
Wakeup, I would like your honest opinion of this clip of Jesus from the UB? Is there truth in it?
“You well know that, while a kindhearted father loves his family as a whole, he so regards them as a group because of his strong affection for each individual member of that family. No longer must you approach the Father in heaven as a child of Israel but as a child of God. As a group, you are indeed the children of Israel, but as individuals, each one of you is a child of God. I have come, not to reveal the Father to the children of Israel, but rather to bring this knowledge of God and the revelation of his love and mercy to the individual believer as a genuine personal experience. The prophets have all taught you that Yahweh cares for his people, that God loves Israel. But I have come among you to proclaim a greater truth, one which many of the later prophets also grasped, that God loves you—every one of you—as individuals. All these generations have you had a national or racial religion; now have I come to give you a personal religion.
145:2.5 “But even this is not a new idea. Many of the spiritually minded among you have known this truth, inasmuch as some of the prophets have so instructed you. Have you not read in the Scripture where the Prophet Jeremiah says: `In those days they shall no more say, the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge. Every man shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge. Behold, the days shall come when I will make a new covenant with my people, not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers when I brought them out of the land of Egypt, but according to the new way. I will even write my law in their hearts. I will be their God, and they shall be my people. In that day they shall not say, one man to his neighbor, do you know the Lord? Nay! For they shall all know me personally, from the least to the greatest.’
145:2.6 “Have you not read these promises? Do you not believe the Scripture? Do you not understand that the prophet’s words are fulfilled in what you behold this very day? And did not Jeremiah exhort you to make religion an affair of the heart, to relate yourselves to God as individuals? Did not the prophet tell you that the God of heaven would search your individual hearts? And were you not warned that the natural human heart is deceitful above all things and oftentimes desperately wicked?
145:2.7 “Have you not read also where Ezekiel taught even your fathers that religion must become a reality in your individual experiences? No more shall you use the proverb which says, `The fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge.’ `As I live,’ says the Lord God, `behold all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son. Only the soul that sins shall die.’ And then Ezekiel foresaw even this day when he spoke in behalf of God, saying: `A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you.’
145:2.8 “No more should you fear that God will punish a nation for the sin of an individual; neither will the Father in heaven punish one of his believing children for the sins of a nation, albeit the individual member of any family must often suffer the material consequences of family mistakes and group transgressions. Do you not realize that the hope of a better nation—or a better world—is bound up in the progress and enlightenment of the individual?”
Colter
Colter.Why would you need the ub to read that?
Its in Ezekiel; all are responsible for his own doings.
We know that God loves us all,by him, giving up his only begotten Son,this is how we know that God loves us all.
But we must come to him,through his Son, if we also love him.All will know the Lord when Jesus is in charge in the kingdom. But not now; The land is desolate at the moment.
Read Jer 25:32–38.Know also one thing;that we dont choose God ;but it is God that choses us.
No man can come to the father unless the Father draws him.God is the potter,and he knows which pots are blemished and are rejects.
——————-
THAT WAS JUST A COPY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.wakeup.
Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,09:01)
Wakeup, I would like your honest opinion of this clip of Jesus from the UB? Is there truth in it?Colter
Hi Colter,Wakeup is a question hypocrite, he wants you to answer
his questions, but he doesn't want to answer your questions.I usually have to ask him the same question OVER three times,
and sometimes using different words, as many as about 10 times.You can always use “The Hot Seat” where T8 says you can demand an answer.
But I prefer persuasion techniques myself. You yourself know brother, I can be very persistent.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2013,02:52) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,09:01)
Wakeup, I would like your honest opinion of this clip of Jesus from the UB? Is there truth in it?Colter
Hi Colter,Wakeup is a question hypocrite, he wants you to answer
his questions, but he doesn't want to answer your questions.I usually have to ask him the same question OVER three times,
and sometimes using different words, as many as about 10 times.You can always use “The Hot Seat” where T8 says you can demand an answer.
But I prefer persuasion techniques myself. You yourself know brother, I can be very persistent.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj, Doctrine is so out of track, that he can not find his way back.
So he has learned to twist and turn; to wiggle his way out of his own made trap.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2013,03:20) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2013,02:52) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,09:01)
Wakeup, I would like your honest opinion of this clip of Jesus from the UB? Is there truth in it?Colter
Hi Colter,Wakeup is a question hypocrite, he wants you to answer
his questions, but he doesn't want to answer your questions.I usually have to ask him the same question OVER three times,
and sometimes using different words, as many as about 10 times.You can always use “The Hot Seat” where T8 says you can demand an answer.
But I prefer persuasion techniques myself. You yourself know brother, I can be very persistent.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj, Doctrine is so out of track, that he can not find his way back.
So he has learned to twist and turn; to wiggle his way out of his own made trap.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,If he's wiggling his out of his own made trap, than he isn't trapped; is he?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2013,08:12) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2013,03:20) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2013,02:52) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,09:01)
Wakeup, I would like your honest opinion of this clip of Jesus from the UB? Is there truth in it?Colter
Hi Colter,Wakeup is a question hypocrite, he wants you to answer
his questions, but he doesn't want to answer your questions.I usually have to ask him the same question OVER three times,
and sometimes using different words, as many as about 10 times.You can always use “The Hot Seat” where T8 says you can demand an answer.
But I prefer persuasion techniques myself. You yourself know brother, I can be very persistent.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj, Doctrine is so out of track, that he can not find his way back.
So he has learned to twist and turn; to wiggle his way out of his own made trap.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,If he's wiggling his out of his own made trap, than he isn't trapped; is he?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.He is trying,by twisting and turning, but he cant, untill he changes his precept of thinking,and goes back to the scriptures.
wakeup.
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