The goodness of god

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What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,12:07)

What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis? Colter

Colter.

Dont you understand.
There were no scriptures; God spoke to Abraham and Moses
orally. God also spoke to the prophets orally,or in vision,or dreams.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,12:48)

Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,12:07) What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis? Colter Colter. Dont you understand. There were no scriptures; God spoke to Abraham and Moses orally. God also spoke to the prophets orally,or in vision,or dreams. wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,13:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,12:48) Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,12:07) What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis? Colter Colter. Dont you understand. There were no scriptures; God spoke to Abraham and Moses orally. God also spoke to the prophets orally,or in vision,or dreams. wakeup.

Colter.

God also speaks to Jesus orally;What I hear him say,that I say.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:41)

Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,13:14) Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,12:48) Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,12:07) What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis? Colter Colter. Dont you understand. There were no scriptures; God spoke to Abraham and Moses orally. God also spoke to the prophets orally,or in vision,or dreams. wakeup. Colter. God also speaks to Jesus orally;What I hear him say,that I say. wakeup.

Both the father and Son combined speak to me as well.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,21:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,13:41) Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,13:14) Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2013,12:48) Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,12:07) What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis? Colter Colter. Dont you understand. There were no scriptures; God spoke to Abraham and Moses orally. God also spoke to the prophets orally,or in vision,or dreams. wakeup. Colter. God also speaks to Jesus orally;What I hear him say,that I say. wakeup. Both the father and Son combined speak to me as well. Colter

Colter.

Do you really hear them speaking orally?

wakeup.

[Spock]

No, more like the spirit of intuition, the language of the heart, the voice of the shepherd, who speaks in inaudible tones of truth, beauty and goodness.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,02:06)

No, more like the spirit of intuition, the language of the heart, the voice of the shepherd, who speaks in inaudible tones of truth, beauty and goodness. Colter

Colter.

Did he ever tell you to seek the scriptures?

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,02:39)

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,02:06) No, more like the spirit of intuition, the language of the heart, the voice of the shepherd, who speaks in inaudible tones of truth, beauty and goodness. Colter Colter. Did he ever tell you to seek the scriptures? wakeup.

The spirit validates truth wherever it may be found. Some things in the so called “scripture” are truth and some are not. The spiritually reborn individual receives the gift of spirit perception and then cultivates that as he or she matures.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,02:43)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,02:39) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,02:06) No, more like the spirit of intuition, the language of the heart, the voice of the shepherd, who speaks in inaudible tones of truth, beauty and goodness. Colter Colter. Did he ever tell you to seek the scriptures? wakeup. The spirit validates truth wherever it may be found. Some things in the so called “scripture” are truth and some are not. The spiritually reborn individual receives the gift of spirit perception and then cultivates that as he or she matures. Colter

Colter.

Who can judge the scriptures;which is true and which is not true? Making the scriptures free game for all.
You pick what ever suits you,and I pick whatever suits me.
What you dont pick is because its corrupted.
Where is the sense in this?

wakeup.

[Spock]

The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16)

The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter

Colter.

You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:41)

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16) The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter Colter. You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings. wakeup.

I follow God within.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:23)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:41) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16) The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter Colter. You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings. wakeup. I follow God within. Colter

Colter.

How can you follow God within, without accepting his sacrifice?
How can you reject his gift,and expect God to come in?
How can you reject his word as truth,and expect him to come near you?

No one knows the son, and no one knows the father.
And therefore you dont know what God and what Jesus
you worship.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:20)

Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:41) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16) The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter Colter. You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings. wakeup. I follow God within. Colter Colter. How can you follow God within, without accepting his sacrifice? How can you reject his gift,and expect God to come in? How can you reject his word as truth,and expect him to come near you? No one knows the son, and no one knows the father. And therefore you dont know what God and what Jesus you worship. wakeup.

Because Jesus didn't teach human sacrifice, he taught to seek Gods will with a whole heart. You teach a different religion then the one Jesus taught and lived.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:36)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:20) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:41) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16) The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter Colter. You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings. wakeup. I follow God within. Colter Colter. How can you follow God within, without accepting his sacrifice? How can you reject his gift,and expect God to come in? How can you reject his word as truth,and expect him to come near you? No one knows the son, and no one knows the father. And therefore you dont know what God and what Jesus you worship. wakeup. Because Jesus didn't teach human sacrifice, he taught to seek Gods will with a whole heart. You teach a different religion then the one Jesus taught and lived. Colter

Colter.

John 3:14 *And as Moses* *lifted up* the serpent in the wilderness, even so **must the Son of man be lifted up**:

John 8:28 **Then said Jesus** unto them, When ye have **lifted up the Son of man**, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

Lifted up on the cross;means the crucifixion.

The knowledge you have received is of the world.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:31)

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:36) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:20) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:41) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16) The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter Colter. You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings. wakeup. I follow God within. Colter Colter. How can you follow God within, without accepting his sacrifice? How can you reject his gift,and expect God to come in? How can you reject his word as truth,and expect him to come near you? No one knows the son, and no one knows the father. And therefore you dont know what God and what Jesus you worship. wakeup. Because Jesus didn't teach human sacrifice, he taught to seek Gods will with a whole heart. You teach a different religion then the one Jesus taught and lived. Colter Colter. John 3:14   *And as Moses* *lifted up* the serpent in the wilderness, even so **must the Son of man be lifted up**: John 8:28   **Then said Jesus** unto them, When ye have **lifted up the Son of man**, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. Lifted up on the cross;means the crucifixion. The knowledge you have received is of the world. wakeup.

Nothing there about atoning for your sin, the Father required the Son to experience all that man experiences, death is the last act in life.

We now have a creator who mastered life and death, he knows our afflictions and concerns.

No human sacrifice to change Gods heart, that's primitive.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,10:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:31) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:36) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:20) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2013,17:41) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,06:16) The quest for truth, with faith like a child, is an uncertain adventure, it is because man craves security and prefers conformity that he petrifies doctrine and creates ritualistic approaches and sacrificial systems. Colter Colter. You follow mans philosophy,rather than Gods teachings. wakeup. I follow God within. Colter Colter. How can you follow God within, without accepting his sacrifice? How can you reject his gift,and expect God to come in? How can you reject his word as truth,and expect him to come near you? No one knows the son, and no one knows the father. And therefore you dont know what God and what Jesus you worship. wakeup. Because Jesus didn't teach human sacrifice, he taught to seek Gods will with a whole heart. You teach a different religion then the one Jesus taught and lived. Colter Colter. John 3:14   *And as Moses* *lifted up* the serpent in the wilderness, even so **must the Son of man be lifted up**: John 8:28   **Then said Jesus** unto them, When ye have **lifted up the Son of man**, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. Lifted up on the cross;means the crucifixion. The knowledge you have received is of the world. wakeup. Nothing there about atoning for your sin, the Father required the Son to experience all that man experiences, death is the last act in life. We now have a creator who mastered life and death, he knows our afflictions and concerns. No human sacrifice to change Gods heart, that's primitive. Colter

Colter.

You see us christians as primitive,because we believe
in the old and the new testament.

And you consider yourself as the man of the new age,
because you reject the old and go for the new age teachings.
the scriptures has someting to say about this.

In the last days there shall be scoffers of the truth,and teaching doctrines inspired by devils.
These are the new age teachings.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Jesus was new age, that's why people like you rejected his liberal gospel of love.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:51)

Jesus was new age, that's why people like you rejected his liberal gospel of love. Colter

Colte.

If you consider Jesus as a new age teacher,
then why reject his teachings?
Jesus fulfilled the old prophesies.
He is not a new age teacher;he is of old,even before the world was.

wakeup.

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