The goodness of god

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:33)

Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:21) Quote Colter. Christ and the saints will be ruling in the kingdom. Christ as the king of kings, which are the saint kings. There are no saints ruling now. Can you name some ruling saints in your kingdom? No you can not. so? wakeup. Wakeup, Their is only one ruler in the heart of the believer, the will of God. Earth is not our permanent home, we are resurrected on the Mansion worlds and continue to progress inward towards our paradise destiny. The idea of “saints” ruling with God is a “carrot and stick” creation by man. “The kingdom of heaven is within you.” Colter Colter. Revelation 1:6   And hath made us *kings and priests* unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.  Revelation 5:10   And hast made us unto our God **kings and priests**: ****and we shall reign on the earth****.  Revelation 20:6   Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but ***they shall be priests of God and of Christ***, and ***shall reign with him a thousand years*** I KNOW; IT DOES NOT MEAN A THING TO YOU. JUST KEEP ON PRAISING *YOUR GOD* AND FEEL NICE AND SAFE. BUT FALSE SECURITY. WOE TO THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES YOUR DAY WILL BE WORSE THAN SODOM AND GOMORAH. wakeup.

You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

Because you are a hatful, controlling sort of person you see God as being just like you, he isn't. It's you who need to change, not God.

The book of revelation is a dark age mess! It was the last book added by the Catholics nearly 400 years after Jesus.

Everyone born of spirit is a priest of the most high.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,00:49)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:33) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:21) Quote Colter. Christ and the saints will be ruling in the kingdom. Christ as the king of kings, which are the saint kings. There are no saints ruling now. Can you name some ruling saints in your kingdom? No you can not. so? wakeup. Wakeup, Their is only one ruler in the heart of the believer, the will of God. Earth is not our permanent home, we are resurrected on the Mansion worlds and continue to progress inward towards our paradise destiny. The idea of “saints” ruling with God is a “carrot and stick” creation by man. “The kingdom of heaven is within you.” Colter Colter. Revelation 1:6   And hath made us *kings and priests* unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.  Revelation 5:10   And hast made us unto our God **kings and priests**: ****and we shall reign on the earth****.  Revelation 20:6   Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but ***they shall be priests of God and of Christ***, and ***shall reign with him a thousand years*** I KNOW; IT DOES NOT MEAN A THING TO YOU. JUST KEEP ON PRAISING *YOUR GOD* AND FEEL NICE AND SAFE. BUT FALSE SECURITY. WOE TO THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES YOUR DAY WILL BE WORSE THAN SODOM AND GOMORAH. wakeup. You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees! Because you are a hatful, controlling sort of person you see God as being just like you, he isn't. It's you who need to change, not God. The book of revelation is a dark age mess! It was the last book added by the Catholics nearly 400 years after Jesus. Everyone born of spirit is a priest of the most high. Colter

Colter.

That is not true,because the catholics themselves could not understand the book of revelation.

Is I have said;another scripture rejected.
On what foundation are you standing on?
I say very swampy land.

wakeup.

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The Book of Revelation

Canonical history

“It appears that Revelation was the last of the traditional books to be accepted as part of the Christian biblical canon, up to 100 years later than the other books. According to Denzinger, Revelation was accepted at the Council of Carthage of 397 AD; according to McDonald & Sanders it was added at the later 419 council. Revelation's place in the canon was not guaranteed, however, with doubts raised as far back as the 2nd century about its character, symbolism, and apostolic authorship.[30] These doubts have been regularly expressed through Church history.

Second century Christians in Syria rejected the book because it was relied heavily upon by Montanism, a sect which was deemed to be heretical by the mainstream church. In the 4th century, Gregory of Nazianzus and other bishops argued against including Revelation because of the difficulties of interpretation and the risk of abuse. In the 16th century, Martin Luther initially considered it to be “neither apostolic nor prophetic” and stated that “Christ is neither taught nor known in it,” and placed it in his Antilegomena (his list of questionable documents), though he retracted this view in later life. In the same century, John Calvin believed the book to be canonical, yet it was the only New Testament book on which he did not write a commentary. It remains the only book of the New Testament that is not read within the Divine Liturgy of the Eastern Orthodox Church, though it is included in Catholic and Protestant liturgies.

Merrill Unger and Gary N. Larson have argued that in spite of the objections that have been raised over the years, Revelation provides a logical conclusion, not just to the New Testament, but to the Christian Bible as a whole, and there is a continuous tradition dating back to the 2nd century supporting the authenticity of the document and indicating that it was generally included within the as yet unformalized canon of the early church.”

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,04:32)

The Book of Revelation Canonical history   “It appears that Revelation was the last of the traditional books to be accepted as part of the Christian biblical canon, up to 100 years later than the other books. According to Denzinger, Revelation was accepted at the Council of Carthage of 397 AD;  according to McDonald & Sanders it was added at the later 419 council.  Revelation's place in the canon was not guaranteed, however, with doubts raised as far back as the 2nd century about its character, symbolism, and apostolic authorship.[30] These doubts have been regularly expressed through Church history. Second century Christians in Syria rejected the book because it was relied heavily upon by Montanism, a sect which was deemed to be heretical by the mainstream church.  In the 4th century, Gregory of Nazianzus and other bishops argued against including Revelation because of the difficulties of interpretation and the risk of abuse. In the 16th century, Martin Luther initially considered it to be “neither apostolic nor prophetic” and stated that “Christ is neither taught nor known in it,”   and placed it in his Antilegomena (his list of questionable documents), though he retracted this view in later life. In the same century, John Calvin believed the book to be canonical, yet it was the only New Testament book on which he did not write a commentary.  It remains the only book of the New Testament that is not read within the Divine Liturgy of the Eastern Orthodox Church, though it is included in Catholic and Protestant liturgies. Merrill Unger and Gary N. Larson have argued that in spite of the objections that have been raised over the years, Revelation provides a logical conclusion, not just to the New Testament, but to the Christian Bible as a whole, and there is a continuous tradition dating back to the 2nd century supporting the authenticity of the document and indicating that it was generally included within the as yet unformalized canon of the early church.” Colter

Colter.

And you have so much faith in those men.
They could not understand the book of revelation,
thats how far they are from God.

God has provided his children the book of revelation
to know the end times,and the coming.

Revelation 22:7.Behold,I come quickly:
**BLESSED** is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

wakeup.

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Why Do the Heathen Rage?

(1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’

(1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’”

(1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom.

(1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted.

(1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.”

(1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night
and sought rest upon their pillows.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24)

Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter

Colter.

You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God.

Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision?

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:13)

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24) Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter Colter. You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God. Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision? wakeup.

We know who wrote the UB, it's consistent and spectacular.

The Bible doesn't claim divine authorship, an idolatrous religion about the Bible developed among the control freaks.

Even as a child I knew the Genesis story was mostly nonsense. The Jews cooked that up in Babylon.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:19)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:13) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24) Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter Colter. You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God. Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision? wakeup. We know who wrote the UB, it's consistent and spectacular. The Bible doesn't claim divine authorship, an idolatrous religion about the Bible developed among the control freaks. Even as a child I knew the Genesis story was mostly nonsense. The Jews cooked that up in Babylon. Colter

Colter.

Who wrote the book of urantia?
How can they be inspired by the Holy Spirit
when they contradict the scriptures?

Who are those men,or man?
Have they got names?

The prophets are untill John,and the book of revelation is the LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE.

BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY,AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME.
I AM OF THE ROOT OF DAVID THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.SURELY I COME QUICKLY. **AMEN**.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,13:50)

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:13) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24) Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter Colter. You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God. Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision? wakeup. We know who wrote the UB, it's consistent and spectacular. The Bible doesn't claim divine authorship, an idolatrous religion about the Bible developed among the control freaks. Even as a child I knew the Genesis story was mostly nonsense. The Jews cooked that up in Babylon. Colter Colter. Who wrote the book of urantia? How can they be inspired by the Holy Spirit when they contradict the scriptures? Who are those men,or man? Have they got names? The prophets are untill John,and the book of revelation is the LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY,AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME. I AM OF THE ROOT OF DAVID THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.SURELY I COME QUICKLY. **AMEN**. wakeup.

The UB was sent by Christ through celestial beings similar to Gabriel.

You're parroting the teachings of the church about the inspiration of the Bible. You are a frustrated, controlling person as you have been taught that lie about the perfection of the Bible yourself.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,13:50) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:13) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24) Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter Colter. You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God. Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision? wakeup. We know who wrote the UB, it's consistent and spectacular. The Bible doesn't claim divine authorship, an idolatrous religion about the Bible developed among the control freaks. Even as a child I knew the Genesis story was mostly nonsense. The Jews cooked that up in Babylon. Colter Colter. Who wrote the book of urantia? How can they be inspired by the Holy Spirit when they contradict the scriptures? Who are those men,or man? Have they got names? The prophets are untill John,and the book of revelation is the LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY,AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME. I AM OF THE ROOT OF DAVID THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.SURELY I COME QUICKLY. **AMEN**. wakeup. The UB was sent by Christ through celestial beings similar to Gabriel. You're parroting the teachings of the church about the inspiration of the Bible. You are a frustrated, controlling person as you have been taught that lie about the perfection of the Bible yourself.

Colter.

So no man wrote the ub;it just fell to the earth
from heaven? **If that was so** ;then why would God use Prophets in the old days ,and then later use his own Son.
Why not just drop the bible from heaven?
Why the sudden change of routine?

This is not about me,or you.

wakeup

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:55)

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:39) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,13:50) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:13) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24) Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter Colter. You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God. Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision? wakeup. We know who wrote the UB, it's consistent and spectacular. The Bible doesn't claim divine authorship, an idolatrous religion about the Bible developed among the control freaks. Even as a child I knew the Genesis story was mostly nonsense. The Jews cooked that up in Babylon. Colter Colter. Who wrote the book of urantia? How can they be inspired by the Holy Spirit when they contradict the scriptures? Who are those men,or man? Have they got names? The prophets are untill John,and the book of revelation is the LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY,AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME. I AM OF THE ROOT OF DAVID THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.SURELY I COME QUICKLY. **AMEN**. wakeup. The UB was sent by Christ through celestial beings similar to Gabriel. You're parroting the teachings of the church about the inspiration of the Bible. You are a frustrated, controlling person as you have been taught that lie about the perfection of the Bible yourself. Colter. So no man wrote the ub;it just fell to the earth from heaven? **If that was so** ;then why would God use Prophets in the old days ,and then later use his own Son. Why not just drop the bible from heaven? Why the sudden change of routine? This is not about me,or you. wakeup

“And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness, even as he has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son of Man. And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father has invested me wit
h all power and authority, continue to follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. (1914.4) 176:2.3

I will post a link if you REALLY want to know how the UB came about but I will summarize.

Around 1911 in Chicago Illinois Dr. William Saddler was summoned to a residence in the apartment building where he and his wife lived. He attended to a man at the request of his wife who was breathing erratically while asleep, muttering and such. He would awake surprised to find Dr Saddler attending to him.

In time, while in this sleeping state, celestial beings communicated through him the papers of the Urantia Book. Over a period of 20 years. In 1934 the entire life of Christ came in one night, hand written by the sleeping subject with no memory of having written it.

The material was written down in dictation form.

A forum (which had been previously convened at Saddlers home to discuss various topics of the day, medical, spiritual, philosophical) was asked to review the papers and ask questions of the Celestia's.

In 1945 the book was set in nickle plates at R. L. Donely printers in Chicago.

The celestials requested study of the material for 20 years before publication in 1955.

The revelation is now in a trust.

Where did the Urnatia Book come from?

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,01:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:55) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:39) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,13:50) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:13) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,23:24) Why Do the Heathen Rage? (1725.2) 155:1.1 Said Jesus: “You should all recall how the Psalmist spoke of these times, saying, ‘Why do the heathen rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers of the people take counsel together, against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break the bonds of mercy asunder and let us cast away the cords of love.’ (1725.3) 155:1.2 “Today you see this fulfilled before your eyes. But you shall not see the remainder of the Psalmist’s prophecy fulfilled, for he entertained erroneous ideas about the Son of Man and his mission on earth. My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service. My Father does not sit in heaven laughing in derision at the heathen. He is not wrathful in his great displeasure. True is the promise that the Son shall have these so-called heathen (in reality his ignorant and untaught brethren) for an inheritance. And I will receive these gentiles with open arms of mercy and affection. All this loving-kindness shall be shown the so-called heathen, notwithstanding the unfortunate declaration of the record which intimates that the triumphant Son ‘shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ The Psalmist exhorted you to ‘serve the Lord with fear’ — I bid you enter into the exalted privileges of divine sonship by faith; he commands you to rejoice with trembling; I bid you rejoice with assurance. He says, ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish when his wrath is kindled.’ But you who have lived with me well know that anger and wrath are not a part of the establishment of the kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men. But the Psalmist did glimpse the true light when, in finishing this exhortation, he said: ‘Blessed are they who put their trust in this Son.’” (1725.4) 155:1.3 Jesus continued to teach the twenty-four, saying: “The heathen are not without excuse when they rage at us. Because their outlook is small and narrow, they are able to concentrate their energies enthusiastically. Their goal is near and more or less visible; wherefore do they strive with valiant and effective execution. You who have professed entrance into the kingdom of heaven are altogether too vacillating and indefinite in your teaching conduct. The heathen strike directly for their objectives; you are guilty of too much chronic yearning. If you desire to enter the kingdom, why do you not take it by spiritual assault even as the heathen take a city they lay siege to? You are hardly worthy of the kingdom when your service consists so largely in an attitude of regretting the past, whining over the present, and vainly hoping for the future. Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom. (1726.1) 155:1.4 “In all that you do, become not one-sided and overspecialized. The Pharisees who seek our destruction verily think they are doing God’s service. They have become so narrowed by tradition that they are blinded by prejudice and hardened by fear. Consider the Greeks, who have a science without religion, while the Jews have a religion without science. And when men become thus misled into accepting a narrow and confused disintegration of truth, their only hope of salvation is to become truth-co-ordinated — converted. (1726.2) 155:1.5 “Let me emphatically state this eternal truth: If you, by truth co-ordination, learn to exemplify in your lives this beautiful wholeness of righteousness, your fellow men will then seek after you that they may gain what you have so acquired. The measure wherewith truth seekers are drawn to you represents the measure of your truth endowment, your righteousness. The extent to which you have to go with your message to the people is, in a way, the measure of your failure to live the whole or righteous life, the truth-co-ordinated life.” (1726.3) 155:1.6 And many other things the Master taught his apostles and the evangelists before they bade him good night and sought rest upon their pillows. Colter Colter. You have put your faith in mens writing, rather than in God. Men can not save you,so why did you make that decision? wakeup. We know who wrote the UB, it's consistent and spectacular. The Bible doesn't claim divine authorship, an idolatrous religion about the Bible developed among the control freaks. Even as a child I knew the Genesis story was mostly nonsense. The Jews cooked that up in Babylon. Colter Colter. Who wrote the book of urantia? How can they be inspired by the Holy Spirit when they contradict the scriptures? Who are those men,or man? Have they got names? The prophets are untill John,and the book of revelation is the LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY,AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME. I AM OF THE ROOT OF DAVID THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.SURELY I COME QUICKLY. **AMEN**. wakeup. The UB was sent by Christ through celestial beings similar to Gabriel. You're parroting the teachings of the church about the inspiration of the Bible. You are a frustrated, controlling person as you have been taught that lie about the perfection of the Bible yourself. Colter. So no man wrote the ub;it just fell to the earth from heaven? **If that was so** ;then why would God use Prophets in the old days ,and then later use his own Son. Why not just drop the bible from heaven? Why the sudden change of routine? This is not about me,or you. wakeup “And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness, even as he has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in thes e days, the Son of Man. And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father has invested me with all power and authority, continue to follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. (1914.4) 176:2.3 I will post a link if you REALLY want to know how the UB came about but I will summarize. Around 1911 in Chicago Illinois Dr. William Saddler was summoned to a residence in the apartment building where he and his wife lived. He attended to a man at the request of his wife who was breathing erratically while asleep, muttering and such. He would awake surprised to find Dr Saddler attending to him. In time, while in this sleeping state, celestial beings communicated through him the papers of the Urantia Book. Over a period of 20 years. In 1934 the entire life of Christ came in one night, hand written by the sleeping subject with no memory of having written it. The material was written down in dictation form. A forum (which had been previously convened at Saddlers home to discuss various topics of the day, medical, spiritual, philosophical) was asked to review the papers and ask questions of the Celestia's. In 1945 the book was set in nickle plates at R. L. Donely printers in Chicago. The celestials requested study of the material for 20 years before publication in 1955. The revelation is now in a trust. Where did the Urnatia Book come from? Colter

Colter.

Dont you know that satan always use the same tactics?
The qur'an was written by Mohamads scribes ,because he cant write. Mohamad was visited by an angel gabri'el,suppose to be; and he told mohamad what to write.

Same here with the mormons;Joseph smith was also visited by an angel called moroni,and introduce the book of mormon.

Same with the sda, Ellen white was also inspired,and given visions. It turned out to be all false.
Sda; jw; have the same roots.

And now this ub. also inspired by some force that we are not familiar with.

Satan is still doing that today;appearing as Mary,and prophesying false prophecsies.

That is not how God works, he has introduced himself to us,and also introduced his Son.
We know that the bible was written by the prophets we know them by name,and by the apostles, that have known Jesus.

God always introduce himself to the prophets. ''I am the Lord your God''.Or I am Jehovah.
And Jesus in revelation:'' I am the first and the last; I am he that lived, and was dead,behold I am alive for ever more''.

Here we know who we are dealing with.

wakeup.

[Spock]

And around and around we go, what a fool! You are saying exactly what the enemies of Jesus said.

Your Satan God is a load of BS!

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,13:21)

And around and around we go, what a fool! You are saying exactly what the enemies of Jesus said. Your Satan God is a load of BS! Colter

Colter.

The world as it is; is very evil,and I am sure you agree.
All mankind seems to follow the spirit of this world(babylon the great). The system of this world is satans system.
Lying, cheating, war, greed, all for themselves,do to others before they do unto you attitude;TAKE;TAKE;TAKE.ME;ME.ME.

THEREFORE MAN IS FOLLOWING SATANS WAY.(SATANS SPIRIT).
THEREFORE MAKING HIM THEIR GOD.
SATAN IS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE MAN HAS MADE THEM THEIR GOD.SOME REMOTE TRIBES;HAVE MADE
SOME ANIMALS THEIR GOD.

MAN COULD HAVE REJECTED SATAN;THEN HE WOULD BE NOTHING,BUT A LIER.
GOD IS TEACHING US HOW TO REJECT EVIL,AND CHOOSE GOOD. THIS WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED AFTER JESUS HIMSELF WILL TAKE OVER CONTROL WITH A ROD OF IRON.
THEN, ONLY THEN, SATAN WILL BE ASHES.

HIS PROUD LOOKS WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO THE PIT.

ANYONE LIVING A WICKED LIFE,HAS ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF SATAN. ANYONE LIVING A GOD FEARING LIFE HAS ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,15:00)

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,13:21) And around and around we go, what a fool! You are saying exactly what the enemies of Jesus said. Your Satan God is a load of BS! Colter Colter. The world as it is; is very evil,and I am sure you agree. All mankind seems to follow the spirit of this world(babylon the great). The system of this world is satans system. Lying, cheating, war, greed, all for themselves,do to others before they do unto you attitude;TAKE;TAKE;TAKE.ME;ME.ME. THEREFORE MAN IS FOLLOWING SATANS WAY.(SATANS SPIRIT). THEREFORE MAKING HIM THEIR GOD. SATAN IS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE MAN HAS MADE THEM THEIR GOD.SOME REMOTE TRIBES;HAVE MADE SOME ANIMALS THEIR GOD. MAN COULD HAVE REJECTED SATAN;THEN HE WOULD BE NOTHING,BUT A LIER. GOD IS TEACHING US HOW TO REJECT EVIL,AND CHOOSE GOOD. THIS WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED AFTER JESUS HIMSELF WILL TAKE OVER CONTROL WITH A ROD OF IRON. THEN, ONLY THEN, SATAN WILL BE ASHES. HIS PROUD LOOKS WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO THE PIT. ANYONE LIVING A WICKED LIFE,HAS ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF SATAN. ANYONE LIVING A GOD FEARING LIFE HAS ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST. wakeup.

Please listen, thank you.

Yes, I agree, we live on a fallen world, we are the victims of betrayal, we do inherit the consequences to that to a certain degree.

We were betrayed by a Son of God named Lucifer, an administrator under the authority of God. (God delegates authority in his Sons) He was a high, brilliant being who fell in love with his own brilliance and lost faith in the unseen God.

“There was war in heaven” (ideological, faith war)

The original plan of God for our evolutionary world was then thwarted.

200,000 years after “the fall of man” Adam and Eve arrived (39,000 BC), they were tricked as well, Eve inserted her will instead of Gods will.

This was the second default, notice, the “Beast” of Genesis was already evil, then it corrupted Eve.

Melchizedek came, incarnate as a full grown priest of Salem teaching of the “One God”, he sent out missionaries to many places. After 90 years Melchizedek left.

Then the creator Son came, he defeated Satan and Lucifer, they were locked up and will be destroyed.

Jesus did not leave the evil ones in charge after is triumph on earth, that is absurd!

The evil today, while it may be in part die to our past, it is mans own heart that is evil not Satan.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,22:28)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,15:00) Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,13:21) And around and around we go, what a fool! You are saying exactly what the enemies of Jesus said. Your Satan God is a load of BS! Colter Colter. The world as it is; is very evil,and I am sure you agree. All mankind seems to follow the spirit of this world(babylon the great). The system of this world is satans system. Lying, cheating, war, greed, all for themselves,do to others before they do unto you attitude;TAKE;TAKE;TAKE.ME;ME.ME. THEREFORE MAN IS FOLLOWING SATANS WAY.(SATANS SPIRIT). THEREFORE MAKING HIM THEIR GOD. SATAN IS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE MAN HAS MADE THEM THEIR GOD.SOME REMOTE TRIBES;HAVE MADE SOME ANIMALS THEIR GOD. MAN COULD HAVE REJECTED SATAN;THEN HE WOULD BE NOTHING,BUT A LIER. GOD IS TEACHING US HOW TO REJECT EVIL,AND CHOOSE GOOD. THIS WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED AFTER JESUS HIMSELF WILL TAKE OVER CONTROL WITH A ROD OF IRON. THEN, ONLY THEN, SATAN WILL BE ASHES. HIS PROUD LOOKS WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO THE PIT. ANYONE LIVING A WICKED LIFE,HAS ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF SATAN. ANYONE LIVING A GOD FEARING LIFE HAS ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST. wakeup. Please listen, thank you. Yes, I agree, we live on a fallen world, we are the victims of betrayal, we do inherit the consequences to that to a certain degree. We were betrayed by a Son of God named Lucifer, an administrator under the authority of God. (God delegates authority in his Sons) He was a high, brilliant being who fell in love with his own brilliance and lost faith in the unseen God. “There was war in heaven” (ideological, faith war) The original plan of God for our evolutionary world was then thwarted. 200,000 years after “the fall of man” Adam and Eve arrived (39,000 BC), they were tricked as well, Eve inserted her will instead of Gods will. This was the second default, notice, the “Beast” of Genesis was already evil, then it corrupted Eve. Melchizedek came, incarnate as a full grown priest of Salem teaching of the “One God”, he sent out missionaries to many places. After 90 years Melchizedek left. Then the creator Son came, he defeated Satan and Lucifer, they were locked up and will be destroyed. Jesus did not leave the evil ones in charge after is triumph on earth, that is absurd! The evil today, while it may be in part die to our past, it is mans own heart that is evil not Satan. Colter

Colter.

QUOTE:
Yes, I agree, we live on a fallen world, we are the victims of betrayal, we do inherit the consequences to that to a certain degree.UNQUOTE:
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE OF EVERY GENERATION,HAVE ADOPTED THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD(BABYLON),BECAUSE IT IS NICE AND A LOT OF OF FUN,AND EXITING,AND EVIL.

QUOTE:
We were betrayed by a Son of God named Lucifer, an administrator under the authority of God. (God delegates authority in his Sons) He was a high, brilliant being who fell in love with his own brilliance and lost faith in the unseen God.UNQUOTE:
THIS LUCIFER IS NOT A BEING,BUT A CREATURE CREATED.
IN ISAIAH14. AND EZIEKIEL 28. IS ABOUT LUCIFER,THE SON OF THE MORNING.HE WAS CREATED BY GOD. GOD HAS ANOINTED HIM TO BE IN CHARGE. HE WAS CREATED A CHERUB,HIGHER THEN ANGELS.

CREATURES:
1.SERAPHS.
2.CHERUBS.
3.ANGELS.
4.MAN.ETC,ETC,

QUOTE:
“There was war in heaven” (ideological, faith war)UNQUOTE:

THIS WAR IS IN REV.12. THIS WAS A REAL WAR;SATAN AND HIS ANGELS WERE DRIVEN OUT OF HEAVEN BY CHRIST AFTER THE RESURRECTION; HE; AND HIS ANGELS ARE NOT TO ENTER HEAVEN ANYMORE.

QUOTE:
The original plan of God for our evolutionary world was then thwarted.UNQUOTE:

THERE IS NONE THAT CAN DISRUPT GODS PLAN.
FOR HE KNOWS WHAT WILL BE AHEAD.

QUOTE:
200,000 years after “the fall of man” Adam and Eve arrived (39,000 BC), they were tricked as well, Eve inserted her will instead of Gods will.UNQUOTE:

ADAM WAS THE FIRST MAN CREATED,BEFORE ADAM, ALL WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID,AND DARKNESS. AND THE EARTH WAS JUST A WATER PLANET. NO LIFE CAN EXIST.

QUOTE:
This was the second default, notice, the “Beast” of Genesis was already evil, then it corrupted Eve.UNQUOTE:
SECOND DEFAULT?? BEAST?? THIS IS GOING OFF TRACK NOW.

QUOTE:
Melchizedek came, incarnate as a full grown priest of Salem teaching of the “One God”, he sent out missionaries to many places. After 90 years Melchizedek left.UNQUOTE:

MELCHSEDEK SENDS OUT MISSIONARIES??
ABRAHAM MET MELCHISEDEK; THERE WERE NO MISSIONARIES THEN: GOD WAS JUST STARTING WITH ABRAHAM. THIS IS WHERE THINGS GO FUNNY.

QUOTE:
Then the creator Son came, he defeated Satan and Lucifer, they were locked up and will be destroyed.UNQUOTE:

CREATOR SON?(JESUS I SUPPOSE)?
DEFEATED SATAN AND LUCIFER??
LUCIFER IS SATAN: AND THERE WAS NO PHISYCAL WAR BETWEEN JESUS AND LUCIFER AND SATAN.

QUOTE:
Jesus did not leave the evil ones in charge after is triumph on earth, that is absurd!UNQUOTE:

THERE WASNT ANY WAR PRIOR TO ADAM.??
MEN HAVE CHOSEN THE EVIL ONES WAYS.(spirit)

QUOTE:
The evil today, while it may be in part die to our past, it is mans own heart that is evil not Satan.INQUOTE:

MENS HEART IS EVIL BECAUSE MEN HAS FOLLOWED SATANS SPIRIT.
THAT IS GREED,SELFISHNESS,PRIDE,WORSHIP MATERIAL THINGS,ROBB OTHERS FOR OWN GAIN,AND YOU JUST NAME IT.

wakeup.

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QUOTE: We were betrayed by a Son of God named Lucifer, an administrator under the authority of God. (God delegates authority in his Sons) He was a high, brilliant being who fell in love with his own brilliance and lost faith in the unseen God.UNQUOTE: THIS LUCIFER IS NOT A BEING,BUT A CREATURE CREATED. IN ISAIAH14. AND EZIEKIEL 28. IS ABOUT LUCIFER,THE SON OF THE MORNING.HE WAS CREATED BY GOD. GOD HAS ANOINTED HIM TO BE IN CHARGE. HE WAS CREATED A CHERUB,HIGHER THEN ANGELS.

True, God did create Lucifer just like I said many times, he was a high administrator just like I said also……but you left out the part where Lucifer fell:

“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.

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So the Lord God said to the serpent:

“Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,

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So the Lord God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle,

Colter.

The falling of lucifer was prophecy then; but fulfilled in rev.12. But there will be another war when satan(lucifer) will be no more. And that would be in the battle of Gog and magog. And btw.this will not be at the coming ;but 1000yrs after the coming.

Lucifer was rebelling in heaven just by gossiping,and one third of the angels were listening.
But he could not perform amongst the spirit angels.

So God set a trap for him. God created flesh,so his evil talk
can manifest into deeds, so he can be pronounced guilty.

wakeup.

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Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

Colter

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