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Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:38) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:47) 1) Because of an unearned, unnatural reverence for them. 2) Because the Western nations adopted them out of Judaic Christian sympathy.
3) Because the nation of Israel was reestablished in the lands of the ancient Semitic enemies of the Jews, a stone in a hornets nest, creating ongoing instability in the middle east.
4) Because antisemitism creates and perpetuates the perception that Jews run the world financial centers.
5) All of this was caused by the egotistical rewriting of the OT books in Babylon, creating a “chosen people” delusion among Jews and even Christians.
……and the Jews aren't even pure line descendants anyway, they mixed with the Canaanites.
“The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. “And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites.” The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests’ record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did.”
Colter
Colter.Abrahams father was an amorite,and his mother was a hittite.
Dont you know that The Lord Jesus of whom you say
you worship is also a jew?wakeup.
Said Jesus: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”“My kingdom is not of this world.”
Jesus is the Son of God, his political ethnicity while on earth is pf no consequence. He could have been an Eskimo, for the selection of Israel mainly had to do with its geographical location as the crossroads of the world at that time, it was the beast place to get the message out.
Colter
Colter.Israel is the first born nation of God.
It is God that created the nation israel,in Egypt.
It was God that named that nation ISRAEL.
Jesus came to feed his people israel.
Since they rejected Jesus; Paul was sent to us.(gentiles).Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM THE ROOT and the *OFFSPRING OF DAVID*. and THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
DAVID ALSO WAS A JEW.
THE ESKIMOS COULD NOT PRODUCE A MESSIAH,NOR ANY
OTHER NATION,BUT ISRAEL.JESUS WAS BORN OUT OF MOTHER ZION;GODS WOMAN.
THIS WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
(REV.12).wakeup.
June 2, 2013 at 11:34 pm#346235SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:15) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:38) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:47) 1) Because of an unearned, unnatural reverence for them. 2) Because the Western nations adopted them out of Judaic Christian sympathy.
3) Because the nation of Israel was reestablished in the lands of the ancient Semitic enemies of the Jews, a stone in a hornets nest, creating ongoing instability in the middle east.
4) Because antisemitism creates and perpetuates the perception that Jews run the world financial centers.
5) All of this was caused by the egotistical rewriting of the OT books in Babylon, creating a “chosen people” delusion among Jews and even Christians.
……and the Jews aren't even pure line descendants anyway, they mixed with the Canaanites.
“The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. “And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites.” The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests’ record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did.”
Colter
Colter.Abrahams father was an amorite,and his mother was a hittite.
Dont you know that The Lord Jesus of whom you say
you worship is also a jew?wakeup.
Said Jesus: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”“My kingdom is not of this world.”
Jesus is the Son of God, his political ethnicity while on earth is pf no consequence. He could have been an Eskimo, for the selection of Israel mainly had to do with its geographical location as the crossroads of the world at that time, it was the beast place to get the message out.
Colter
Colter.Israel is the first born nation of God.
It is God that created the nation israel,in Egypt.
It was God that named that nation ISRAEL.
Jesus came to feed his people israel.
Since they rejected Jesus; Paul was sent to us.(gentiles).Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM THE ROOT and the *OFFSPRING OF DAVID*. and THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
DAVID ALSO WAS A JEW.
THE ESKIMOS COULD NOT PRODUCE A MESSIAH,NOR ANY
OTHER NATION,BUT ISRAEL.JESUS WAS BORN OUT OF MOTHER ZION;GODS WOMAN.
THIS WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
(REV.12).wakeup.
I understand it full well, I've been hearing this arrogant delusion for years. The Hebrews turned a prophetic prediction into a miraculous fiction. That unfortunate turn of events left the Jews segregated, despised and unprepared for the answer to Abraham's faith covenant.Pride comes before the fall, and oh boy did Israel fall!
Colter
June 2, 2013 at 11:35 pm#346236SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:15) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:38) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:47) 1) Because of an unearned, unnatural reverence for them. 2) Because the Western nations adopted them out of Judaic Christian sympathy.
3) Because the nation of Israel was reestablished in the lands of the ancient Semitic enemies of the Jews, a stone in a hornets nest, creating ongoing instability in the middle east.
4) Because antisemitism creates and perpetuates the perception that Jews run the world financial centers.
5) All of this was caused by the egotistical rewriting of the OT books in Babylon, creating a “chosen people” delusion among Jews and even Christians.
……and the Jews aren't even pure line descendants anyway, they mixed with the Canaanites.
“The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. “And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites.” The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests’ record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did.”
Colter
Colter.Abrahams father was an amorite,and his mother was a hittite.
Dont you know that The Lord Jesus of whom you say
you worship is also a jew?wakeup.
Said Jesus: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”“My kingdom is not of this world.”
Jesus is the Son of God, his political ethnicity while on earth is pf no consequence. He could have been an Eskimo, for the selection of Israel mainly had to do with its geographical location as the crossroads of the world at that time, it was the beast place to get the message out.
Colter
Colter.Israel is the first born nation of God.
It is God that created the nation israel,in Egypt.
It was God that named that nation ISRAEL.
Jesus came to feed his people israel.
Since they rejected Jesus; Paul was sent to us.(gentiles).Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM THE ROOT and the *OFFSPRING OF DAVID*. and THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
DAVID ALSO WAS A JEW.
THE ESKIMOS COULD NOT PRODUCE A MESSIAH,NOR ANY
OTHER NATION,BUT ISRAEL.JESUS WAS BORN OUT OF MOTHER ZION;GODS WOMAN.
THIS WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
(REV.12).wakeup.
I understand it full well, I've been hearing this arrogant delusion for years. The Hebrews turned a prophetic prediction into a miraculous fiction. That unfortunate turn of events left the Jews segregated, despised and unprepared for the answer to Abraham's faith covenant.Pride comes before the fall, and oh boy did Israel fall!
Colter
June 3, 2013 at 12:24 am#346243WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 03 2013,10:35) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:15) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,02:38) Quote (Colter @ June 02 2013,23:47) 1) Because of an unearned, unnatural reverence for them. 2) Because the Western nations adopted them out of Judaic Christian sympathy.
3) Because the nation of Israel was reestablished in the lands of the ancient Semitic enemies of the Jews, a stone in a hornets nest, creating ongoing instability in the middle east.
4) Because antisemitism creates and perpetuates the perception that Jews run the world financial centers.
5) All of this was caused by the egotistical rewriting of the OT books in Babylon, creating a “chosen people” delusion among Jews and even Christians.
……and the Jews aren't even pure line descendants anyway, they mixed with the Canaanites.
“The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. “And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites.” The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests’ record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did.”
Colter
Colter.Abrahams father was an amorite,and his mother was a hittite.
Dont you know that The Lord Jesus of whom you say
you worship is also a jew?wakeup.
Said Jesus: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”“My kingdom is not of this world.”
Jesus is the Son of God, his political ethnicity while on earth is pf no consequence. He could have been an Eskimo, for the selection of Israel mainly had to do with its geographical location as the crossroads of the world at that time, it was the beast place to get the message out.
Colter
Colter.Israel is the first born nation of God.
It is God that created the nation israel,in Egypt.
It was God that named that nation ISRAEL.
Jesus came to feed his people israel.
Since they rejected Jesus; Paul was sent to us.(gentiles).Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM THE ROOT and the *OFFSPRING OF DAVID*. and THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
DAVID ALSO WAS A JEW.
THE ESKIMOS COULD NOT PRODUCE A MESSIAH,NOR ANY
OTHER NATION,BUT ISRAEL.JESUS WAS BORN OUT OF MOTHER ZION;GODS WOMAN.
THIS WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
(REV.12).wakeup.
I understand it full well, I've been hearing this arrogant delusion for years. The Hebrews turned a prophetic prediction into a miraculous fiction. That unfortunate turn of events left the Jews segregated, despised and unprepared for the answer to Abraham's faith covenant.Pride comes before the fall, and oh boy did Israel fall!
Colter
Colter.Are you denying also that Joseph went to Egypt,and followed by his family?And became a people in 430yrs.
And that Moses brought them out of Egypt by the will of God?You have denied everything in scripture and yet claiming Jesus is the saviour.Jesus of nazareth is the door,and anyone that dont go through that door is a thief.
Your saviour is the wrong Jesus; he could be an eskimo.
wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 1:57 am#346251SpockParticipantMelchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated.
Colter
June 3, 2013 at 4:59 am#346261WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 11:06 am#346276SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
That's why it's called revelation Wakeup, these facts were once known but lost.Colter
June 3, 2013 at 12:06 pm#346281WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 03 2013,22:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
That's why it's called revelation Wakeup, these facts were once known but lost.Colter
Colter.Its always the same story,the facts were lost.
The mormons supposed tablets were also lost.
Regarding Melchizedek.
He has no father nor mother and no beginning nor end.
Appointed by God a high priest forever.
Jesus is to **follow** after Melchizedek,a high priest.
Not after Aaron, the levite.
Because Melshisedek is the same Lord,but not born in the flesh yet.wakeup.
wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 12:15 pm#346284SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,23:06) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,22:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
That's why it's called revelation Wakeup, these facts were once known but lost.Colter
Colter.Its always the same story,the facts were lost.
The mormons supposed tablets were also lost.
Regarding Melchizedek.
He has no father nor mother and no beginning nor end.
Appointed by God a high priest forever.
Jesus is to **follow** after Melchizedek,a high priest.
Not after Aaron, the levite.
Because Melshisedek is the same Lord,but not born in the flesh yet.wakeup.
wakeup.
Melchizedek was on the earth for 90 years, he was definitely in the flesh:“Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said:
“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”And he gave him a tithe of all.
Melchizedek had alsoeliminated blood sacrifices, he established the covenent with “bread and wine.”
Colter
June 3, 2013 at 1:19 pm#346288WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 03 2013,23:15) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,23:06) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,22:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
That's why it's called revelation Wakeup, these facts were once known but lost.Colter
Colter.Its always the same story,the facts were lost.
The mormons supposed tablets were also lost.
Regarding Melchizedek.
He has no father nor mother and no beginning nor end.
Appointed by God a high priest forever.
Jesus is to **follow** after Melchizedek,a high priest.
Not after Aaron, the levite.
Because Melshisedek is the same Lord,but not born in the flesh yet.wakeup.
wakeup.
Melchizedek was on the earth for 90 years, he was definitely in the flesh:“Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said:
“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”And he gave him a tithe of all.
Melchizedek had alsoeliminated blood sacrifices, he established the covenent with “bread and wine.”
Colter
Colter.Incase you dont know.
Melchisedek was beore israel as a people was born.
Even Isaac was not yet born.wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 1:27 pm#346290SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,00:19) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,23:15) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,23:06) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,22:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
That's why it's called revelation Wakeup, these facts were once known but lost.Colter
Colter.Its always the same story,the facts were lost.
The mormons supposed tablets were also lost.
Regarding Melchizedek.
He has no father nor mother and no beginning nor end.
Appointed by God a high priest forever.
Jesus is to **follow** after Melchizedek,a high priest.
Not after Aaron, the levite.
Because Melshisedek is the same Lord,but not born in the flesh yet.wakeup.
wakeup.
Melchizedek was on the earth for 90 years, he was definitely in the flesh:“Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said:
“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”And he gave him a tithe of all.
Melchizedek had alsoeliminated blood sacrifices, he established the covenent with “bread and wine.”
Colter
Colter.Incase you dont know.
Melchisedek was beore israel as a people was born.
Even Isaac was not yet born.wakeup.
Yes I know, Melchizedek was the visible representative of God on earth. He was a celestial who incarnate as a full grown man.(1023.4) 93:9.7 What the Old Testament records describe as conversations between Abraham and God were in reality conferences between Abraham and Melchizedek. Later scribes regarded the term Melchizedek as synonymous with God. The record of so many contacts of Abraham and Sarah with “the angel of the Lord” refers to their numerous visits with Melchizedek.
(1023.5) 93:9.8 The Hebrew narratives of Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph are far more reliable than those about Abraham, although they also contain many diversions from the facts, alterations made intentionally and unintentionally at the time of the compilation of these records by the Hebrew priests during the Babylonian captivity. Keturah was not a wife of Abraham; like Hagar, she was merely a concubine. All of Abraham’s property went to Isaac, the son of Sarah, the status wife. Abraham was not so old as the records indicate, and his wife was much younger. These ages were deliberately altered in order to provide for the subsequent alleged miraculous birth of Isaac.
(1023.6) 93:9.9 The national ego of the Jews was tremendously depressed by the Babylonian captivity. In their reaction against national inferiority they swung to the other extreme of national and racial egotism, in which they distorted and perverted their traditions with the view of exalting themselves above all races as the chosen people of God; and hence they carefully edited all their records for the purpose of raising Abraham and their other national leaders high up above all other persons, not excepting Melchizedek himself. The Hebrew scribes therefore destroyed every record of these momentous times which they could find, preserving only the narrative of the meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek after the battle of Siddim, which they deemed reflected great honor upon Abraham.
Colter
June 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm#346447WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 04 2013,00:27) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,00:19) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,23:15) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,23:06) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,22:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:57) Melchizedek told Abram about Egypt and his descendants. But the OT was rewritten in Babylon where everything was exaggerated. Colter
Where do you get all that information,Colter?
If not from the antichrists.
Daniel was in babylon,and Jeremiah was in babylon.
These are true prophets of God.
These are them that God had saved from being scattered in all the earth.You are anti bible,and pro ub,and other books of men.
As long as it is not from God.wakeup.
That's why it's called revelation Wakeup, these facts were once known but lost.Colter
Colter.Its always the same story,the facts were lost.
The mormons supposed tablets were also lost.
Regarding Melchizedek.
He has no father nor mother and no beginning nor end.
Appointed by God a high priest forever.
Jesus is to **follow** after Melchizedek,a high priest.
Not after Aaron, the levite.
Because Melshisedek is the same Lord,but not born in the flesh yet.wakeup.
wakeup.
Melchizedek was on the earth for 90 years, he was definitely in the flesh:“Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said:
“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”And he gave him a tithe of all.
Melchizedek had alsoeliminated blood sacrifices, he established the covenent with “bread and wine.”
Colter
Colter.Incase you dont know.
Melchisedek was beore israel as a people was born.
Even Isaac was not yet born.wakeup.
Yes I know, Melchizedek was the visible representative of God on earth. He was a celestial who incarnate as a full grown man.(1023.4) 93:9.7 What the Old Testament records describe as conversations between Abraham and God were in reality conferences between Abraham and Melchizedek. Later scribes regarded the term Melchizedek as synonymous with God. The record of so many contacts of Abraham and Sarah with “the angel of the Lord” refers to their numerous visits with Melchizedek.
(1023.5) 93:9.8 The Hebrew narratives of Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph are far more reliable than those about Abraham, although they also contain many diversions from the facts, alterations made intentionally and unintentionally at the time of the compilation of these records by the Hebrew priests during the Babylonian captivity. Keturah was not a wife of Abraham; like Hagar, she was merely a concubine. All of Abraham’s property went to Isaac, the son of Sarah, the status wife. Abraham was not so old as the records indicate, and his wife was much younger. These ages were deliberately altered in order to provide for the subsequent alleged miraculous birth of Isaac.
(1023.6) 93:9.9 The national ego of the Jews was tremendously depressed by the Babylonian captivity. In their reaction against national inferiority they swung to the other extreme of national and racial egotism, in which they distorted and perverted their traditions with the view of exalting themselves above all races as the chosen people of God; and hence they carefully edited all their records for the purpose of raising Abraham and their other national leaders high up above all other persons, not excepting Melchizedek himself. The Hebrew scribes therefore destroyed every record of these momentous times which they could find, preserving only the narrative of the meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek after the battle of Siddim, which they deemed reflected great honor upon Abraham.
Colter
Colter.The scriptures can not be broken.
wakeup.
June 4, 2013 at 4:21 pm#346448SpockParticipantJesus broke the scriptures, but in the religion of Bible worship I realize you aren't allowed to be honest.
Colter
June 4, 2013 at 8:35 pm#346452WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:21) Jesus broke the scriptures, but in the religion of Bible worship I realize you aren't allowed to be honest. Colter
Colter.Maybe it looks that way through your eyes;for you have been
lead by the spirit of the world.Jesus never broke any scripture.
wakeup.
June 5, 2013 at 1:42 am#346472SpockParticipant(2070.1) 195:0.5 How did this new message of Jewish origin, which had almost failed in the land of its birth, so quickly and effectively capture the very best minds of the Roman Empire? The triumph of Christianity over the philosophic religions and the mystery cults was due to:
(2070.2) 195:0.6 1. Organization. Paul was a great organizer and his successors kept up the pace he set.
(2070.3) 195:0.7 2. Christianity was thoroughly Hellenized. It embraced the best in Greek philosophy as well as the cream of Hebrew theology.
(2070.4) 195:0.8 3. But best of all, it contained a new and great ideal, the echo of the life bestowal of Jesus and the reflection of his message of salvation for all mankind.
(2070.5) 195:0.9 4. The Christian leaders were willing to make such compromises with Mithraism that the better half of its adherents were won over to the Antioch cult.
(2070.6) 195:0.10 5. Likewise did the next and later generations of Christian leaders make such further compromises with paganism that even the Roman emperor Constantine was won to the new religion.
(2070.7) 195:0.11 But the Christians made a shrewd bargain with the pagans in that they adopted the ritualistic pageantry of the pagan while compelling the pagan to accept the Hellenized version of Pauline Christianity. They made a better bargain with the pagans than they did with the Mithraic cult, but even in that earlier compromise they came off more than conquerors in that they succeeded in eliminating the gross immoralities and also numerous other reprehensible practices of the Persian mystery.
Colter
June 5, 2013 at 9:13 am#346500WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 05 2013,12:42) (2070.1) 195:0.5 How did this new message of Jewish origin, which had almost failed in the land of its birth, so quickly and effectively capture the very best minds of the Roman Empire? The triumph of Christianity over the philosophic religions and the mystery cults was due to: (2070.2) 195:0.6 1. Organization. Paul was a great organizer and his successors kept up the pace he set.
(2070.3) 195:0.7 2. Christianity was thoroughly Hellenized. It embraced the best in Greek philosophy as well as the cream of Hebrew theology.
(2070.4) 195:0.8 3. But best of all, it contained a new and great ideal, the echo of the life bestowal of Jesus and the reflection of his message of salvation for all mankind.
(2070.5) 195:0.9 4. The Christian leaders were willing to make such compromises with Mithraism that the better half of its adherents were won over to the Antioch cult.
(2070.6) 195:0.10 5. Likewise did the next and later generations of Christian leaders make such further compromises with paganism that even the Roman emperor Constantine was won to the new religion.
(2070.7) 195:0.11 But the Christians made a shrewd bargain with the pagans in that they adopted the ritualistic pageantry of the pagan while compelling the pagan to accept the Hellenized version of Pauline Christianity. They made a better bargain with the pagans than they did with the Mithraic cult, but even in that earlier compromise they came off more than conquerors in that they succeeded in eliminating the gross immoralities and also numerous other reprehensible practices of the Persian mystery.
Colter
Colter.What you are truly saying is:
That Paul has gone corrupt, and Peter has gone corrupt,
and all the other Apostles has gone corrupt.
The whole word of God has been compromised.So dont follow the bible.Jesus teachings has been a waste,after all; his work is not done. But Jesus said; *I HAVE FINISHED THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME*. AND HE IS ACCEPTED BY THE FATHER.
But you say, we should go for a new teaching that has not
been corrupted. Follow the ub, and pick only the scriptures
that the ub decide is true.The bible teachings are primitive.And you are one of them that know the truth,because you follow the ub, the modern mans teachings.
Anyone that follow the Holy bible only; has been lead astray,and are primitive in thinking.Well, as you can see,that is the total opposite.
You have been lead into darkness,seen as light.Darkness has claimed to be light.
Things has been turned up side down.
Evil is good and good is evil.Those are the antichrists.wakeup.
June 5, 2013 at 10:48 am#346504SpockParticipant(2066.4) 194:4.4 What has happened to these men whom Jesus had ordained to go forth preaching the gospel of the kingdom, the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man? They have a new gospel; they are on fire with a new experience; they are filled with a new spiritual energy. Their message has suddenly shifted to the proclamation of the risen Christ: “Jesus of Nazareth, a man God approved by mighty works and wonders; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you did crucify and slay. The things which God foreshadowed by the mouth of all the prophets, he thus fulfilled. This Jesus did God raise up. God has made him both Lord and Christ. Being, by the right hand of God, exalted and having received from the Father the promise of the spirit, he has poured forth this which you see and hear. Repent, that your sins may be blotted out; that the Father may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you, even Jesus, whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restoration of all things.”
Colter
June 5, 2013 at 11:48 am#346507WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:48) (2066.4) 194:4.4 What has happened to these men whom Jesus had ordained to go forth preaching the gospel of the kingdom, the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man? They have a new gospel; they are on fire with a new experience; they are filled with a new spiritual energy. Their message has suddenly shifted to the proclamation of the risen Christ: “Jesus of Nazareth, a man God approved by mighty works and wonders; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you did crucify and slay. The things which God foreshadowed by the mouth of all the prophets, he thus fulfilled. This Jesus did God raise up. God has made him both Lord and Christ. Being, by the right hand of God, exalted and having received from the Father the promise of the spirit, he has poured forth this which you see and hear. Repent, that your sins may be blotted out; that the Father may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you, even Jesus, whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restoration of all things.” Colter
Colter.Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to *his will*; and **he shall exalt himself**, and magnify himself above every god, **AND SHALL SPEAK MARVELLOUS THINGS AGAINST** the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
INFILTRATE,BY SPEAKING MARVELLOUS THINGS;BUT AGAINST THE TRUTH.
THOSE ARE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.
BE AWARE.wakeup.
June 5, 2013 at 12:33 pm#346514SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,22:48) Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:48) (2066.4) 194:4.4 What has happened to these men whom Jesus had ordained to go forth preaching the gospel of the kingdom, the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man? They have a new gospel; they are on fire with a new experience; they are filled with a new spiritual energy. Their message has suddenly shifted to the proclamation of the risen Christ: “Jesus of Nazareth, a man God approved by mighty works and wonders; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you did crucify and slay. The things which God foreshadowed by the mouth of all the prophets, he thus fulfilled. This Jesus did God raise up. God has made him both Lord and Christ. Being, by the right hand of God, exalted and having received from the Father the promise of the spirit, he has poured forth this which you see and hear. Repent, that your sins may be blotted out; that the Father may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you, even Jesus, whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restoration of all things.” Colter
Colter.Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to *his will*; and **he shall exalt himself**, and magnify himself above every god, **AND SHALL SPEAK MARVELLOUS THINGS AGAINST** the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
INFILTRATE,BY SPEAKING MARVELLOUS THINGS;BUT AGAINST THE TRUTH.
THOSE ARE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.
BE AWARE.wakeup.
I'm not afraid of your imaginary evil twin God, for you seem more like the wolf in sheep’s clothing, teaching of a God with a split personality.Colter
June 5, 2013 at 3:32 pm#346522WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:48) (2066.4) 194:4.4 What has happened to these men whom Jesus had ordained to go forth preaching the gospel of the kingdom, the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man? They have a new gospel; they are on fire with a new experience; they are filled with a new spiritual energy. Their message has suddenly shifted to the proclamation of the risen Christ: “Jesus of Nazareth, a man God approved by mighty works and wonders; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you did crucify and slay. The things which God foreshadowed by the mouth of all the prophets, he thus fulfilled. This Jesus did God raise up. God has made him both Lord and Christ. Being, by the right hand of God, exalted and having received from the Father the promise of the spirit, he has poured forth this which you see and hear. Repent, that your sins may be blotted out; that the Father may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you, even Jesus, whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restoration of all things.” Colter
I dont expect you to understand this either.Matthew 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let **THIS CUP PASS FROM ME**: nevertheless not as I will, but **AS THOU WILT**.
JESUS PRAYER THE SAME NIGHT THAT HE WAS TAKEN AWAY.
Without the sacrifice; all is for nothing.
lets eat ,drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.wakeup.
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