The good news of jesus

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,03:32)

Colter. We are in the last days,and God is revealing all his evidence. You are just being stubborn, it is so clear to see. Jesus  and lucifer are not brothers as you claim. Jesus(the word made flesh) created lucifer. Without him(the word), was nothing made that was made. You dont know your Lord. No man knows the son,but the Father,and no man knows the Father,but the son,  *and him whom the son will reveal him*. It seems obvious that you have not been given that revelation. Colter;you have no knowledge of prophesies;the bible contains 75% prophesies. Dont be proud,and listen; this is not a contest,time is very,very,short. God has made sure to provide us with a book to seek, and find;and that book is the Holy bible,not the ub. Please come back and start seeking the truth. There is no place for pride. This is a matter of life with God, or death. This is not some sort of competition. I pray that God will draw you also. wakeup.

False teachers have been saying we were in the last days since the day after Jesus left yet Jesus said his return visit is known only on paradise. You are preaching false prophecy.

We are all Sons of God, yes Jesus is the creator of Lucifer but we are all brothers under the first source and center, God the Father.

It seems obvious to me that you don't think for yourself but are lead by another.

The Bible doesn’t claim to be the Word of God, false teacher’s claim the Bible was written by God in order to control.

I will not reject God and go to the lies of cult leaders.

You can stay in the pride of Bible worship, I'm already saved.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,04:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,03:32) Colter. We are in the last days,and God is revealing all his evidence. You are just being stubborn, it is so clear to see. Jesus  and lucifer are not brothers as you claim. Jesus(the word made flesh) created lucifer. Without him(the word), was nothing made that was made. You dont know your Lord. No man knows the son,but the Father,and no man knows the Father,but the son,  *and him whom the son will reveal him*. It seems obvious that you have not been given that revelation. Colter;you have no knowledge of prophesies;the bible contains 75% prophesies. Dont be proud,and listen; this is not a contest,time is very,very,short. God has made sure to provide us with a book to seek, and find;and that book is the Holy bible,not the ub. Please come back and start seeking the truth. There is no place for pride. This is a matter of life with God, or death. This is not some sort of competition. I pray that God will draw you also. wakeup. False teachers have been saying we were in the last days since the day after Jesus left yet Jesus said his return visit is known only on paradise. You are preaching false prophecy. We are all Sons of God, yes Jesus is the creator of Lucifer but we are all brothers under the first source and center, God the Father. It seems obvious to me that you don't think for yourself but are lead by another. The Bible doesn’t claim to be the Word of God, false teacher’s claim the Bible was written by God in order to control. I will not reject God and go to the lies of cult leaders. You can stay in the pride of Bible worship, I'm already saved. Colter

Colter.

Just study jeremiah 25 very carefully.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,09:59)

Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,04:14) Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,03:32) Colter. We are in the last days,and God is revealing all his evidence. You are just being stubborn, it is so clear to see. Jesus  and lucifer are not brothers as you claim. Jesus(the word made flesh) created lucifer. Without him(the word), was nothing made that was made. You dont know your Lord. No man knows the son,but the Father,and no man knows the Father,but the son,  *and him whom the son will reveal him*. It seems obvious that you have not been given that revelation. Colter;you have no knowledge of prophesies;the bible contains 75% prophesies. Dont be proud,and listen; this is not a contest,time is very,very,short. God has made sure to provide us with a book to seek, and find;and that book is the Holy bible,not the ub. Please come back and start seeking the truth. There is no place for pride. This is a matter of life with God, or death. This is not some sort of competition. I pray that God will draw you also. wakeup. False teachers have been saying we were in the last days since the day after Jesus left yet Jesus said his return visit is known only on paradise. You are preaching false prophecy. We are all Sons of God, yes Jesus is the creator of Lucifer but we are all brothers under the first source and center, God the Father. It seems obvious to me that you don't think for yourself but are lead by another. The Bible doesn’t claim to be the Word of God, false teacher’s claim the Bible was written by God in order to control. I will not reject God and go to the lies of cult leaders. You can stay in the pride of Bible worship, I'm already saved. Colter Colter. Just study jeremiah 25 very carefully. wakeup.

2. The Master’s Second Coming

(1914.2) 176:2.1 On several occasions Jesus had made statements which led his hearers to infer that, while he intended presently to leave this world, he would most certainly return to consummate the work of the heavenly kingdom. As the conviction grew on his followers that he was going to leave them, and after he had departed from this world, it was only natural for all believers to lay fast hold upon these promises to return. The doctrine of the second coming of Christ thus became early incorporated into the teachings of the Christians, and almost every subsequent generation of disciples has devoutly believed this truth and has confidently looked forward to his sometime coming.

(1914.3) 176:2.2 If they were to part with their Master and Teacher, how much more did these first disciples and the apostles grasp at this promise to return, and they lost no time in associating the predicted destruction of Jerusalem with this promised second coming. And they continued thus to interpret his words notwithstanding that, throughout this evening of instruction on Mount Olivet, the Master took particular pains to prevent just such a mistake.

(1914.4) 176:2.3 In further answer to Peter’s question, Jesus said: “Why do you still look for the Son of Man to sit upon the throne of David and expect that the material dreams of the Jews will be fulfilled? Have I not told you all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The things which you now look down upon are coming to an end, but this will be a new beginning out of which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and this salvation will spread to all peoples. And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness, even as he has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son of Man. And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father has invested me with all power and authority, continue to follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. Even though I shall thus be present with you in spirit, I also promise that I will sometime return to this world, where I have lived this life in the flesh and achieved the experience of simultaneously revealing God to man and leading man to God. Very soon must I leave you and take up the work the Father has intrusted to my hands, but be of good courage, for I will sometime return. In the meantime, my Spirit of the Truth of a universe shall comfort and guide you.

(1915.1) 176:2.4 “You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in the flesh, but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name.

(1915.2) 176:2.5 “But the times of the reappearing of the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come to pass, the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age.

(1915.3) 176:2.6 “And now concerning the travail of Jerusalem, about which I have spoken to you, even this generation will not pass away until my words are fulfilled; but concerning the times of the coming again of the Son of Man, no one in heaven or on earth may presume to speak. But you should be wise regarding the ripening of an age; you should be alert to discern the signs of the times. You know when the fig tree shows its tender branches and puts forth its leaves that summer is near. Likewise, when the world has passed through the long winter of material-mindedness and you discern the coming of the spiritual springtime of a new dispensation, should you know that the summertime of a new visitation draws near.

(1915.4) 176:2.7 “But what is the significance of this teaching having to do with the coming of the Sons of God? Do you not perceive that, when each of you is called to lay down his life struggle and pass through the portal of death, you stand in the immediate presence of judgment, and that you are face to face with the facts of a new dispensation of service in the eternal plan of the infinite Father? What the whole world must face as a literal fact at the end of an age, you, as individuals, must each most certainly face as a personal experience when you reach the end of your natural life and thereby pass on to be confronted with the conditions and demands inherent in the next revelation of the eternal progression of the Father’s kingdom.”

(1915.5) 176:2.8 Of all the discourses which the Master gave his apostles, none ever became so confused in their minds as this one, given this Tuesday evening on the Mount of Olives, regarding the twofold subject of the destruction of Jerusalem and his own second coming. There was, therefore, little agreeme
nt between the subsequent written accounts based on the memories of what the Master said on this extraordinary occasion. Consequently, when the records were left blank concerning much that was said that Tuesday evening, there grew up many traditions; and very early in the second century a Jewish apocalyptic about the Messiah written by one Selta, who was attached to the court of the Emperor Caligula, was bodily copied into the Matthew Gospel and subsequently added (in part) to the Mark and Luke records. It was in these writings of Selta that the parable of the ten virgins appeared. No part of the gospel record ever suffered such confusing misconstruction as this evening’s teaching. But the Apostle John never became thus confused.

(1915.6) 176:2.9 As these thirteen men resumed their journey toward the camp, they were speechless and under great emotional tension. Judas had finally confirmed his decision to abandon his associates. It was a late hour when David Zebedee, John Mark, and a number of the leading disciples welcomed Jesus and the twelve to the new camp, but the apostles did not want to sleep; they wanted to know more about the destruction of Jerusalem, the Master’s departure, and the end of the world.

Colter

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Colter.

As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew.
This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth,
for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come.

As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness.
The ub has not been preached in all the earth.

Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,20:39)

Colter. As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come. As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness. The ub has not been preached in all the earth. Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible. wakeup.

The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world.

He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching.

His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking.

The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,22:25)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,20:39) Colter. As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come. As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness. The ub has not been preached in all the earth. Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible. wakeup. The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world. He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching. His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking. The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that. Colter

Colter.

QUOTE:
The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world.UNQUOTE:
THE WORD *INCARNATE*,IS USED BY THEM THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE FATHER AND THE SON.
JOHN IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. HE SAID; AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.NOT INCARNATE.
psalms 33.By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them; BY THE *BREATH OF HIS MOUTH*
DONT GO FOR THAT INCARNATE STUFF.

QUOTE:
He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching.UNQUOTE:
JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH ANY RELIGION,BUT TO TEACH HIS GOD AND HIS KINGDOM.
RELIGION IS OF MAN.RELIGION IS WAR AND POLITICS.

QUOTE:
His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking.UNQUOTE:
JESUS TEACHINGS WAS REJECTED TOTALLY BY THE JEWS,THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MODIFY IT.
JESUS CRUCIFIXION WAS NOT A JEWISH SACRIFICE.
IT WAS GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON,SO ALL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO GOD BY HIS MERCY ONLY.

QUOTE:
The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that.UNGUOTE:
GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON, BECAUSE HE LOVES US ALL; IS NOT BARBARIC;BUT AN ACT OF LOVE,SO WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO COME BACK TO GOD.
AND THAT WAY IS CHRIST ONLY.NO MAN CAN DO IT BY HIS OWN WORKS; BECAUSE ALL OUR WORKS WONT BE ENOUGH TO GET THE REWARD.OUR WORKS ARE AS DIRTY RAGS BEFORE GOD.

Satan tried hard to debunk the Holy bible,but it does not
work, for the true believers.
Do not underestimate the devil;for he is very cunning with his devices. Dont let him catch you with those stories you read in books. God made sure the seekers will have a place
to seek him,dont underestimate God either.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,06:08)

Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,22:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,20:39) Colter. As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come. As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness. The ub has not been preached in all the earth. Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible. wakeup. The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world. He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching. His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking. The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that. Colter Colter. QUOTE: The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world.UNQUOTE: THE WORD *INCARNATE*,IS USED BY THEM THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE FATHER AND THE SON. JOHN IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. HE SAID; AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.NOT INCARNATE. psalms 33.By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them; BY THE *BREATH OF HIS MOUTH* DONT GO FOR THAT INCARNATE STUFF. QUOTE: He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching.UNQUOTE: JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH ANY RELIGION,BUT TO TEACH HIS GOD AND HIS KINGDOM. RELIGION IS OF MAN.RELIGION IS WAR AND POLITICS. QUOTE: His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking.UNQUOTE: JESUS TEACHINGS WAS REJECTED TOTALLY BY THE JEWS,THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MODIFY IT. JESUS CRUCIFIXION WAS NOT A JEWISH SACRIFICE. IT WAS GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON,SO ALL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO GOD BY HIS MERCY ONLY. QUOTE: The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that.UNGUOTE: GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON, BECAUSE HE LOVES US ALL; IS NOT BARBARIC;BUT AN ACT OF LOVE,SO WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO COME BACK TO GOD. AND THAT WAY IS CHRIST ONLY.NO MAN CAN DO IT BY HIS OWN WORKS; BECAUSE ALL OUR WORKS WONT BE ENOUGH TO GET THE REWARD.OUR WORKS ARE AS DIRTY RAGS BEFORE GOD. Satan tried hard to debunk the Holy bible,but it does not work, for the true believers. Do not underestimate the devil;for he is very cunning with his devices. Dont let him catch you with those stories you read in books. God made sure the seekers will have a place to seek him,dont underestimate God either. wakeup.

You remind me of the Jews who cannot be taught, they were too proud of their own evolved religion to learn anything new.

The Old Testament, now that’s “war and politics”

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,07:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,06:08) Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,22:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,20:39) Colter. As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come. As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness. The ub has not been preached in all the earth. Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible. wakeup. The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world. He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching. His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking. The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that. Colter Colter. QUOTE: The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world.UNQUOTE: THE WORD *INCARNATE*,IS USED BY THEM THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE FATHER AND THE SON. JOHN IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. HE SAID; AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.NOT INCARNATE. psalms 33.By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them; BY THE *BREATH OF HIS MOUTH* DONT GO FOR THAT INCARNATE STUFF. QUOTE: He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching.UNQUOTE: JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH ANY RELIGION,BUT TO TEACH HIS GOD AND HIS KINGDOM. RELIGION IS OF MAN.RELIGION IS WAR AND POLITICS. QUOTE: His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking.UNQUOTE: JESUS TEACHINGS WAS REJECTED TOTALLY BY THE JEWS,THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MODIFY IT. JESUS CRUCIFIXION WAS NOT A JEWISH SACRIFICE. IT WAS GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON,SO ALL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO GOD BY HIS MERCY ONLY. QUOTE: The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that.UNGUOTE: GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON, BECAUSE HE LOVES US ALL; IS NOT BARBARIC;BUT AN ACT OF LOVE,SO WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO COME BACK TO GOD. AND THAT WAY IS CHRIST ONLY.NO MAN CAN DO IT BY HIS OWN WORKS; BECAUSE ALL OUR WORKS WONT BE ENOUGH TO GET THE REWARD.OUR WORKS ARE AS DIRTY RAGS BEFORE GOD. Satan tried hard to debunk the Holy bible,but it does not work, for the true believers. Do not underestimate the devil;for he is very cunning with his devices. Dont let him catch you with those stories you read in books. God made sure the seekers will have a place to seek him,dont underestimate God either. wakeup. You remind me of the Jews who cannot be taught, they were too proud of their own evolved religion to learn anything new. The Old Testament, now that’s “war and politics” Colter

Colter.

Who is following the scriptures here?

Is it me or you? It is you that can not be thought,like the jews back then.

I follow the Bilble,and you follow you dont know what you follow.
The old testament is God guiding his nation to live his way.
God was showing them his power in making them win wars.
And also to get them into the promised land.
Gods ways are not our ways.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,08:42)

Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,07:17) Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,06:08) Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,22:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,20:39) Colter. As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come. As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness. The ub has not been preached in all the earth. Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible. wakeup. The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world. He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching. His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking. The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that. Colter Colter. QUOTE: The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world.UNQUOTE: THE WORD *INCARNATE*,IS USED BY THEM THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE FATHER AND THE SON. JOHN IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. HE SAID; AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.NOT INCARNATE. psalms 33.By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them; BY THE *BREATH OF HIS MOUTH* DONT GO FOR THAT INCARNATE STUFF. QUOTE: He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching.UNQUOTE: JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH ANY RELIGION,BUT TO TEACH HIS GOD AND HIS KINGDOM. RELIGION IS OF MAN.RELIGION IS WAR AND POLITICS. QUOTE: His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking.UNQUOTE: JESUS TEACHINGS WAS REJECTED TOTALLY BY THE JEWS,THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MODIFY IT. JESUS CRUCIFIXION WAS NOT A JEWISH SACRIFICE. IT WAS GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON,SO ALL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO GOD BY HIS MERCY ONLY. QUOTE: The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that.UNGUOTE: GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON, BECAUSE HE LOVES US ALL; IS NOT BARBARIC;BUT AN ACT OF LOVE,SO WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO COME BACK TO GOD. AND THAT WAY IS CHRIST ONLY.NO MAN CAN DO IT BY HIS OWN WORKS; BECAUSE ALL OUR WORKS WONT BE ENOUGH TO GET THE REWARD.OUR WORKS ARE AS DIRTY RAGS BEFORE GOD. Satan tried hard to debunk the Holy bible,but it does not work, for the true believers. Do not underestimate the devil;for he is very cunning with his devices. Dont let him catch you with those stories you read in books. God made sure the seekers will have a place to seek him,dont underestimate God either. wakeup. You remind me of the Jews who cannot be taught, they were too proud of their own evolved religion to learn anything new. The Old Testament, now that’s “war and politics” Colter Colter. Who is following the scriptures here? Is it me or you? It is you that can not be thought,like the jews back then. I follow the Bilble,and you follow you dont know what you follow. The old testament is God guiding his nation to live his way. God was showing them his power in making them win wars. And also to get them into the promised land. Gods ways are not our ways. wakeup.

The Jews use the OT scripture to reject Jesus.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,10:10)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,08:42) Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,07:17) Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,06:08) Quote (Colter @ May 14 2013,22:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2013,20:39) Colter. As it is mentioned in in your book, and in Matthew. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a *WITNESS* unto all nations,and then shall the end come. As far as I know the gospels,has been preached in all the earth,unto all nations,for a witness. The ub has not been preached in all the earth. Jesus was obviously not speaking of the *ub*,but the bible. wakeup. The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world. He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching. His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking. The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that. Colter Colter. QUOTE: The Son of God incarnate on our dark, fallen world.UNQUOTE: THE WORD *INCARNATE*,IS USED BY THEM THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE FATHER AND THE SON. JOHN IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. HE SAID; AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.NOT INCARNATE. psalms 33.By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them; BY THE *BREATH OF HIS MOUTH* DONT GO FOR THAT INCARNATE STUFF. QUOTE: He lived a personal religion which became the Gospel in his public preaching.UNQUOTE: JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH ANY RELIGION,BUT TO TEACH HIS GOD AND HIS KINGDOM. RELIGION IS OF MAN.RELIGION IS WAR AND POLITICS. QUOTE: His Gospel was largely rejected by his own people, the Jews, but modified and then accepted by the Pagan world with one great acceptation; they sacrificed Jesus to their God as a sin offering and satisfied their backward thinking.UNQUOTE: JESUS TEACHINGS WAS REJECTED TOTALLY BY THE JEWS,THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MODIFY IT. JESUS CRUCIFIXION WAS NOT A JEWISH SACRIFICE. IT WAS GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON,SO ALL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO GOD BY HIS MERCY ONLY. QUOTE: The person of Jesus as the risen Christ then became the focus of the new religion, they forgot his valiant, God revealing life and replaced that with the simple, barbaric idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sin and one only need acknowledge that.UNGUOTE: GOD SACRIFICING HIS OWN SON, BECAUSE HE LOVES US ALL; IS NOT BARBARIC;BUT AN ACT OF LOVE,SO WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO COME BACK TO GOD. AND THAT WAY IS CHRIST ONLY.NO MAN CAN DO IT BY HIS OWN WORKS; BECAUSE ALL OUR WORKS WONT BE ENOUGH TO GET THE REWARD.OUR WORKS ARE AS DIRTY RAGS BEFORE GOD. Satan tried hard to debunk the Holy bible,but it does not work, for the true believers. Do not underestimate the devil;for he is very cunning with his devices. Dont let him catch you with those stories you read in books. God made sure the seekers will have a place to seek him,dont underestimate God either. wakeup. You remind me of the Jews who cannot be taught, they were too proud of their own evolved religion to learn anything new. The Old Testament, now that’s “war and politics” Colter Colter. Who is following the scriptures here? Is it me or you? It is you that can not be thought,like the jews back then. I follow the Bilble,and you follow you dont know what you follow. The old testament is God guiding his nation to live his way. God was showing them his power in making them win wars. And also to get them into the promised land. Gods ways are not our ways. wakeup. The Jews use the OT scripture to reject Jesus. Colter

Colter.

I know;but Jesus is the fulfilment of the OT.
We should not be as the jews,to reject part of the old and new testament.
I find the old, and the new in total harmony.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 13 2013,04:21)

Quote (Colter @ May 13 2013,03:27) Quote All in the bible you dont like to hear,is contaminated by paganised christianity. But you still use the scriptures to support your doctrine. Because there is nothing in the book of urantia that can support you. You use the book of Daniel,but even in that same book Daniel mentioned the cutting off, of the Messiah.(the crucifixion). Dan.9:26. And after threescore and two weeks shall messiah be cut off—-(the crucifixion). So to you this part has been corrupted,I suppose? Just because it does not fit into your doctrine. Just pick and choose to your liking. Btw; Gen.3:15 mentioned that satan will bruise the womans seed on the heel; and he did, at the crucifixion. Its time to be honest and repent. wakeup. *I used your own inconsistent Bible to refute your inconsistent Pagan theology; God has always been forgiving, human sacrifice or animal sacrifice is not required. *You have not read the UB so you are an even greater moron in that you use your own ignorance as a proof. *Jewish converts to Paganized Christianity wanted to justify their faith in Jesus based on the erroneous concepts of a Jewish Messiah from their priestly writings, so they forced Jesus into ambiguous scriptures that had nothing to do with him. * Jesus wasn't/isn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. Where is the source of your information? You simply depend on it and believe it with all your heart. How can you proof that it is reliable? You are just following your shepherd leading you to the slaughter. wakeup.

That's what the enemies of Jesus said
But Jesus followed the Rock, he taught man to follow the rock.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,15:58)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 13 2013,04:21) Quote (Colter @ May 13 2013,03:27) Quote All in the bible you dont like to hear,is contaminated by paganised christianity. But you still use the scriptures to support your doctrine. Because there is nothing in the book of urantia that can support you. You use the book of Daniel,but even in that same book Daniel mentioned the cutting off, of the Messiah.(the crucifixion). Dan.9:26. And after threescore and two weeks shall messiah be cut off—-(the crucifixion). So to you this part has been corrupted,I suppose? Just because it does not fit into your doctrine. Just pick and choose to your liking. Btw; Gen.3:15 mentioned that satan will bruise the womans seed on the heel; and he did, at the crucifixion. Its time to be honest and repent. wakeup. *I used your own inconsistent Bible to refute your inconsistent Pagan theology; God has always been forgiving, human sacrifice or animal sacrifice is not required. *You have not read the UB so you are an even greater moron in that you use your own ignorance as a proof. *Jewish converts to Paganized Christianity wanted to justify their faith in Jesus based on the erroneous concepts of a Jewish Messiah from their priestly writings, so they forced Jesus into ambiguous scriptures that had nothing to do with him. * Jesus wasn't/isn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. Where is the source of your information? You simply depend on it and believe it with all your heart. How can you proof that it is reliable? You are just following your shepherd leading you to the slaughter. wakeup. That's what the enemies of Jesus said But Jesus followed the Rock, he taught man to follow the rock. Colter

Colter.

Jesus is the rock we build our faith on,he is also the corner stone.
You have build your faith on a foreign rock, by studying mens books.
You have taken the wrong way.
The Holy bible is the only way.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,00:17)

Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,15:58) Quote (Wakeup @ May 13 2013,04:21) Quote (Colter @ May 13 2013,03:27) Quote All in the bible you dont like to hear,is contaminated by paganised christianity. But you still use the scriptures to support your doctrine. Because there is nothing in the book of urantia that can support you. You use the book of Daniel,but even in that same book Daniel mentioned the cutting off, of the Messiah.(the crucifixion). Dan.9:26. And after threescore and two weeks shall messiah be cut off—-(the crucifixion). So to you this part has been corrupted,I suppose? Just because it does not fit into your doctrine. Just pick and choose to your liking. Btw; Gen.3:15 mentioned that satan will bruise the womans seed on the heel; and he did, at the crucifixion. Its time to be honest and repent. wakeup. *I used your own inconsistent Bible to refute your inconsistent Pagan theology; God has always been forgiving, human sacrifice or animal sacrifice is not required. *You have not read the UB so you are an even greater moron in that you use your own ignorance as a proof. *Jewish converts to Paganized Christianity wanted to justify their faith in Jesus based on the erroneous concepts of a Jewish Messiah from their priestly writings, so they forced Jesus into ambiguous scriptures that had nothing to do with him. * Jesus wasn't/isn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. Where is the source of your information? You simply depend on it and believe it with all your heart. How can you proof that it is reliable? You are just following your shepherd leading you to the slaughter. wakeup. That's what the enemies of Jesus said But Jesus followed the Rock, he taught man to follow the rock. Colter Colter. Jesus is the rock we build our faith on,he is also the corner stone. You have build your faith on a foreign rock, by studying mens books. You have taken the wrong way. The Holy bible is the only way. wakeup.

Jesus said the Father is the rock, you got that wrong.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,02:48)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,00:17) Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,15:58) Quote (Wakeup @ May 13 2013,04:21) Quote (Colter @ May 13 2013,03:27) Quote All in the bible you dont like to hear,is contaminated by paganised christianity. But you still use the scriptures to support your doctrine. Because there is nothing in the book of urantia that can support you. You use the book of Daniel,but even in that same book Daniel mentioned the cutting off, of the Messiah.(the crucifixion). Dan.9:26. And after threescore and two weeks shall messiah be cut off—-(the crucifixion). So to you this part has been corrupted,I suppose? Just because it does not fit into your doctrine. Just pick and choose to your liking. Btw; Gen.3:15 mentioned that satan will bruise the womans seed on the heel; and he did, at the crucifixion. Its time to be honest and repent. wakeup. *I used your own inconsistent Bible to refute your inconsistent Pagan theology; God has always been forgiving, human sacrifice or animal sacrifice is not required. *You have not read the UB so you are an even greater moron in that you use your own ignorance as a proof. *Jewish converts to Paganized Christianity wanted to justify their faith in Jesus based on the erroneous concepts of a Jewish Messiah from their priestly writings, so they forced Jesus into ambiguous scriptures that had nothing to do with him. * Jesus wasn't/isn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. Where is the source of your information? You simply depend on it and believe it with all your heart. How can you proof that it is reliable? You are just following your shepherd leading you to the slaughter. wakeup. That's what the enemies of Jesus said But Jesus followed the Rock, he taught man to follow the rock. Colter Colter. Jesus is the rock we build our faith on,he is also the corner stone. You have build your faith on a foreign rock, by studying mens books. You have taken the wrong way. The Holy bible is the only way. wakeup. Jesus said the Father is the rock, you got that wrong. Colter

Colter.

Jesus said; '' upon this rock will I build my church''.
God speaking through his Son.
And that rock is his Son.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Wakeup,

You are confused, simply pay more attention to exactly what Jesus said:

When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
“But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah,  for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.

The rock is the fact that God revealed the identity of the Son.

Jesus built his kingdom on the rock of faith in God.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:29)

Wakeup, You are confused, simply pay more attention to exactly what Jesus said: When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah,  for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. The rock is the fact that God revealed the identity of the Son. Jesus built his kingdom on the rock of faith in God. Colter

Colter.

He who believe that Jesus is the messiah the Son of God will be saved.Jesus church is build on him.
No man can come to the Father but by ME.
I am the Alpha and the Omega,the first and the last.
I am he that was DEAD and I am alive for ever more.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 15 2013,14:58)

Colter. I find the old, and the new in total harmony. wakeup.

So do I!

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,03:58)

Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:29) Wakeup, You are confused, simply pay more attention to exactly what Jesus said: When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah,  for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. The rock is the fact that God revealed the identity of the Son. Jesus built his kingdom on the rock of faith in God. Colter Colter. He who believe that Jesus is the messiah the Son of God will be saved.Jesus church is build on him. No man can come to the Father but by ME. I am the Alpha and the Omega,the first and the last. I am he that was DEAD and I am alive for ever more. wakeup.

Wakeup,

You are hiding in plain sight, you did not address what Jesus said about the Father, about the Rock.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:19)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,03:58) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:29) Wakeup, You are confused, simply pay more attention to exactly what Jesus said: When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah,  for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. The rock is the fact that God revealed the identity of the Son. Jesus built his kingdom on the rock of faith in God. Colter Colter. He who believe that Jesus is the messiah the Son of God will be saved.Jesus church is build on him. No man can come to the Father but by ME. I am the Alpha and the Omega,the first and the last. I am he that was DEAD and I am alive for ever more. wakeup. Wakeup, You are hiding in plain sight, you did not address what Jesus said about the Father, about the Rock. Colter

Colter.

Can you state what Jesus said about the Father?

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,20:40)

Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,03:58) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:29) Wakeup, You are confused, simply pay more attention to exactly what Jesus said: When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah,  for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. The rock is the fact that God revealed the identity of the Son. Jesus built his kingdom on the rock of faith in God. Colter Colter. He who believe that Jesus is the messiah the Son of God will be saved.Jesus church is build on him. No man can come to the Father but by ME. I am the Alpha and the Omega,the first and the last. I am he that was DEAD and I am alive for ever more. wakeup. Wakeup, You are hiding in plain sight, you did not address what Jesus said about the Father, about the Rock. Colter Colter. Can you state what Jesus said about the Father? wakeup.

Come on Wakeup, don't be an idiot, it's in the quote above!

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