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  • #354597
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,23:07)

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    Is Gabriel also fallen?

    Paradice is far far away.

    Your concepts limit you.

    Colter


    Colter.

    The real gabriel is not fallen.
    Any spirit can call himself anything he likes.
    For they are all lying imposters.
    And satan is the father of them all.
    The appearings of mother mary crying in tears.
    Soft and loving; that is a fallen angel or satan himself.

    wakeup.


    What a bizarre world you live in, is it any wounder they thought Jesus was an agent of Satan?

    Colter


    Colter.

    A thief will never appear as a thief.
    Satan will never appear as satan,but he will appear as an angel of light to deceive the unweary.
    Always ask the spirit to identify himself.
    If he is from God, or from the bottomless pit.

    wakeup.


    According to you, the Jews could then be right, Jesus could have been a false Messiah, after all, he DID NOT do what the Messiah was supposed to do.  

    According to your theory how do you know Jesus wasn't Satan? The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah?

    Colter


    Colter.

    John 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

    John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

    Satan can not do good works,its always evil in the end.

    wakeup.

    #354598
    Spock
    Participant

    Wakeup, You said that Satan does the will of God for the purpose of Good, but now you changed your mind and say that your Satan God can only do evil in the end????

    I think you need to take a theology vacation and straighten out what you believe and why you believe it, because you theology needs a psychiatrist.

    Colter

    #354599
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,00:19)
    Wakeup, You said that Satan does the will of God for the purpose of Good, but now you changed your mind and say that your Satan God can only do evil in the end????

    I think you need to take a theology vacation and straighten out what you believe and why you believe it, because you theology needs a psychiatrist.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Something must have blurred my words that you can not understand.
    Satan does his own work,but God is in control.
    Satan is the ax,and God is holding the ax in his hand,and swings it the way he wants.

    But the ax is still deadly,no matter what.
    Thank God that he is in control,or we are all damned.

    wakeup.

    #354600
    Spock
    Participant

    “Satan does his own work, but God is in control.”
    Wakeup

    Priceless! :D

    #354601
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:54)
    “Satan does his own work, but God is in control.”
    Wakeup

    Priceless! :D


    Colter.

    You obviously dont know the God you suppose to worship.

    Revelation 17:17 ***For God hath PUT IN THEIR HEARTS to fulfil his will***, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

    God also hardened the heart of pharaoh,remember?
    God also let satan have his way with Job remember?
    But God said to satan: but dont touch his soul.
    God is in control of satan also.GOD IS HOLDING THE AXE

    wakeup.

    #354602
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:28)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:54)
    “Satan does his own work, but God is in control.”
    Wakeup

    Priceless! :D


    Colter.

    You obviously dont know the God you suppose to worship.

    Revelation 17:17   ***For God hath PUT IN THEIR HEARTS to fulfil his will***, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

    God also hardened the heart of pharaoh,remember?
    God also let satan have his way with Job remember?
    But God said to satan: but dont touch his soul.
    God is in control of satan also.GOD IS HOLDING THE AXE

    wakeup.


    In that age they believed that God was the source of Good and Evil. The idiot who redacted Rev. also though like that.

    In time that changed, they began to separate off Satan as the source of evil.

    Now we know that the human heart opposed to the will of God is evil. Pharaoh had his own mind.

    Colter

    #354603
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,03:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:28)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:54)
    “Satan does his own work, but God is in control.”
    Wakeup

    Priceless! :D


    Colter.

    You obviously dont know the God you suppose to worship.

    Revelation 17:17   ***For God hath PUT IN THEIR HEARTS to fulfil his will***, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

    God also hardened the heart of pharaoh,remember?
    God also let satan have his way with Job remember?
    But God said to satan: but dont touch his soul.
    God is in control of satan also.GOD IS HOLDING THE AXE

    wakeup.


    In that age they believed that God was the source of Good and Evil. The idiot who redacted Rev. also though like that.

    In time that changed, they began to separate off Satan as the source of evil.

    Now we know that the human heart opposed to the will of God is evil. Pharaoh had his own mind.

    Colter


    Colter.

    How can I give you scriptural evidence if you just reject every scripture put forward?
    I have come to the conclusion that you are anti scripture.
    And pro ub.

    The anti christs have moulded you into their fashion.

    wakeup.

    #354604
    Spock
    Participant

    I don't refute the true scriptures. Rev. Was added in protest 400 ad.

    Colter

    #354605
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:13)
    I don't refute the true scriptures. Rev. Was added in protest 400 ad.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Then its time to rewrite the bible according to your
    wisdom. Cast out all that is not in compliance with the ub.
    And call it the new age bible truth.

    wakeup.

    #354606
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,14:54)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:13)
    I don't refute the true scriptures. Rev. Was added in protest 400 ad.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Then its time to rewrite the bible according to your
    wisdom. Cast out all that is not in compliance with the ub.
    And call it the new age bible truth.

    wakeup.


    No, we don't need to rewrite the scriptures, we can respect them for what they meant to the faith of a people of another age, in fact they did serve a purpose while not being scientifically or historically accurate. The God concept evolves within the current Bible book list, so I would say leave them as they are, a kind of historic record of the evolution of religious thought.

    The Urantia Book stands own it's own, it does not need to be connected to the Bible nor depend upon it for it's revelatory content.

    Colter

    #354607
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,22:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,14:54)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:13)
    I don't refute the true scriptures. Rev. Was added in protest 400 ad.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Then its time to rewrite the bible according to your
    wisdom. Cast out all that is not in compliance with the ub.
    And call it the new age bible truth.

    wakeup.


    No, we don't need to rewrite the scriptures, we can respect them for what they meant to the faith of a people of another age, in fact they did serve a purpose while not being scientifically or historically accurate. The God concept evolves within the current Bible book list, so I would say leave them as they are, a kind of historic record of the evolution of religious thought.

    The Urantia Book stands own it's own, it does not need to be connected to the Bible nor depend upon it for it's revelatory content.

    Colter


    Colter.

    So are you, and the ub;you are on your own.
    The Lord Jesus will come and ask you;WHY ARE YOU NAKED?
    I CAN SEE YOUR NAKEDNESS. STAND ASSIDE FOR I DONT KNOW YOU.

    wakeup.

    #354608
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,00:16)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,22:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,14:54)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:13)
    I don't refute the true scriptures. Rev. Was added in protest 400 ad.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Then its time to rewrite the bible according to your
    wisdom. Cast out all that is not in compliance with the ub.
    And call it the new age bible truth.

    wakeup.


    No, we don't need to rewrite the scriptures, we can respect them for what they meant to the faith of a people of another age, in fact they did serve a purpose while not being scientifically or historically accurate. The God concept evolves within the current Bible book list, so I would say leave them as they are, a kind of historic record of the evolution of religious thought.

    The Urantia Book stands own it's own, it does not need to be connected to the Bible nor depend upon it for it's revelatory content.

    Colter


    Colter.

    So are you, and the ub;you are on your own.
    The Lord Jesus will come and ask you;WHY ARE YOU NAKED?
    I CAN SEE YOUR NAKEDNESS. STAND ASSIDE FOR I DONT KNOW YOU.

    wakeup.


    He has already come to me, he is here now, he knows my heart and I know his voice of Love.

    That’s just wishful thinking on your part because you are mean spirited, unable to bully and control as you were bullied, frightened and controlled by religion.

    Colter

    #354609
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,00:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,00:16)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,22:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,14:54)

    Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:13)
    I don't refute the true scriptures. Rev. Was added in protest 400 ad.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Then its time to rewrite the bible according to your
    wisdom. Cast out all that is not in compliance with the ub.
    And call it the new age bible truth.

    wakeup.


    No, we don't need to rewrite the scriptures, we can respect them for what they meant to the faith of a people of another age, in fact they did serve a purpose while not being scientifically or historically accurate. The God concept evolves within the current Bible book list, so I would say leave them as they are, a kind of historic record of the evolution of religious thought.

    The Urantia Book stands own it's own, it does not need to be connected to the Bible nor depend upon it for it's revelatory content.

    Colter


    Colter.

    So are you, and the ub;you are on your own.
    The Lord Jesus will come and ask you;WHY ARE YOU NAKED?
    I CAN SEE YOUR NAKEDNESS. STAND ASSIDE FOR I DONT KNOW YOU.

    wakeup.


    He has already come to me, he is here now, he knows my heart and I know his voice of Love.

    That’s just wishful thinking on your part because you are mean spirited, unable to bully and control as you were bullied, frightened and controlled by religion.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Believe me .YOU ARE NAKED.

    wakeup.

    #354610
    Spock
    Participant

    Fear and superstition have warped your concepts of God.

    Colter

    #354611
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:08)
    Fear and superstition have warped your concepts of God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You need to put on some covering,because you are naked.
    Only the Holy bible can provide you with a covering.

    The words that I speak to you;they are spirit,and it is the spirit that quickens.Jesus own words,Colter.

    Dont dismiss those true words.
    So far you have been showing the spirit of anti Christ, following the way of those who hates him.

    And there are many of them attacking the scriptures,
    and writing their own version.
    Dont join them,its a way to destruction.
    Harvest time is at the door.

    The weed will be burned,and the corn will be stored.

    wakeup.

    #354612
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,07:30)

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:08)
    Fear and superstition have warped your concepts of God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You need to put on some covering,because you are naked.
    Only the Holy bible can provide you with a covering.

    The words that I speak to you;they are spirit,and it is the spirit that quickens.Jesus own words,Colter.

    Dont dismiss those true words.
    So far you have been showing the spirit of anti Christ, following the way of those who hates him.

    And there are many of them attacking the scriptures,
    and writing their own version.
    Dont join them,its a way to destruction.
    Harvest time is at the door.

    The weed will be burned,and the corn will be stored.

    wakeup.


    You live in the backward dark ages.

    (1114.6) 101:8.2 Belief is always limiting and binding; faith is expanding and releasing. Belief fixates, faith liberates. But living religious faith is more than the association of noble beliefs; it is more than an exalted system of philosophy; it is a living experience concerned with spiritual meanings, divine ideals, and supreme values; it is God-knowing and man-serving. Beliefs may become group possessions, but faith must be personal. Theologic beliefs can be suggested to a group, but faith can rise up only in the heart of the individual religionist.

    (1114.7) 101:8.3 Faith has falsified its trust when it presumes to deny realities and to confer upon its devotees assumed knowledge. Faith is a traitor when it fosters betrayal of intellectual integrity and belittles loyalty to supreme values and divine ideals. Faith never shuns the problem-solving duty of mortal living. Living faith does not foster bigotry, persecution, or intolerance.

    (1115.1) 101:8.4 Faith does not shackle the creative imagination, neither does it maintain an unreasoning prejudice toward the discoveries of scientific investigation. Faith vitalizes religion and constrains the religionist heroically to live the golden rule. The zeal of faith is according to knowledge, and its strivings are the preludes to sublime peace.

    Colter

    #354613
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,12:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,07:30)

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:08)
    Fear and superstition have warped your concepts of God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You need to put on some covering,because you are naked.
    Only the Holy bible can provide you with a covering.

    The words that I speak to you;they are spirit,and it is the spirit that quickens.Jesus own words,Colter.

    Dont dismiss those true words.
    So far you have been showing the spirit of anti Christ, following the way of those who hates him.

    And there are many of them attacking the scriptures,
    and writing their own version.
    Dont join them,its a way to destruction.
    Harvest time is at the door.

    The weed will be burned,and the corn will be stored.

    wakeup.


    You live in the backward dark ages.

    (1114.6) 101:8.2 Belief is always limiting and binding; faith is expanding and releasing. Belief fixates, faith liberates. But living religious faith is more than the association of noble beliefs; it is more than an exalted system of philosophy; it is a living experience concerned with spiritual meanings, divine ideals, and supreme values; it is God-knowing and man-serving. Beliefs may become group possessions, but faith must be personal. Theologic beliefs can be suggested to a group, but faith can rise up only in the heart of the individual religionist.

    (1114.7) 101:8.3 Faith has falsified its trust when it presumes to deny realities and to confer upon its devotees assumed knowledge. Faith is a traitor when it fosters betrayal of intellectual integrity and belittles loyalty to supreme values and divine ideals. Faith never shuns the problem-solving duty of mortal living. Living faith does not foster bigotry, persecution, or intolerance.

    (1115.1) 101:8.4 Faith does not shackle the creative imagination, neither does it maintain an unreasoning prejudice toward the discoveries of scientific investigation. Faith vitalizes religion and constrains the religionist heroically to live the golden rule. The zeal of faith is according to knowledge, and its strivings are the preludes to sublime peace.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I and jesus,the apostles and all the prophets.

    wakeup.

    #354614
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,15:53)

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,12:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,07:30)

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:08)
    Fear and superstition have warped your concepts of God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You need to put on some covering,because you are naked.
    Only the Holy bible can provide you with a covering.

    The words that I speak to you;they are spirit,and it is the spirit that quickens.Jesus own words,Colter.

    Dont dismiss those true words.
    So far you have been showing the spirit of anti Christ, following the way of those who hates him.

    And there are many of them attacking the scriptures,
    and writing their own version.
    Dont join them,its a way to destruction.
    Harvest time is at the door.

    The weed will be burned,and the corn will be stored.

    wakeup.


    You live in the backward dark ages.

    (1114.6) 101:8.2 Belief is always limiting and binding; faith is expanding and releasing. Belief fixates, faith liberates. But living religious faith is more than the association of noble beliefs; it is more than an exalted system of philosophy; it is a living experience concerned with spiritual meanings, divine ideals, and supreme values; it is God-knowing and man-serving. Beliefs may become group possessions, but faith must be personal. Theologic beliefs can be suggested to a group, but faith can rise up only in the heart of the individual religionist.

    (1114.7) 101:8.3 Faith has falsified its trust when it presumes to deny realities and to confer upon its devotees assumed knowledge. Faith is a traitor when it fosters betrayal of intellectual integrity and belittles loyalty to supreme values and divine ideals. Faith never shuns the problem-solving duty of mortal living. Living faith does not foster bigotry, persecution, or intolerance.

    (1115.1) 101:8.4 Faith does not shackle the creative imagination, neither does it maintain an unreasoning prejudice toward the discoveries of scientific investigation. Faith vitalizes religion and constrains the religionist heroically to live the golden rule. The zeal of faith is according to knowledge, and its strivings are the preludes to sublime peace.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I and jesus,the apostles and all the prophets.

    wakeup.


    In the New York Times you may find news facts about real events, but sometimes those facts and the portrayal of those events are discolored by the biased mind and motives of the reporter or writer.

    You trust God and have faith in the Son, I applaud that, but you are making the mistake of deifying even the news accounts that passed through the biased minds of those MEN who wrote about those times.

    Colter

    #354615
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,15:53)

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,12:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,07:30)

    Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:08)
    Fear and superstition have warped your concepts of God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You need to put on some covering,because you are naked.
    Only the Holy bible can provide you with a covering.

    The words that I speak to you;they are spirit,and it is the spirit that quickens.Jesus own words,Colter.

    Dont dismiss those true words.
    So far you have been showing the spirit of anti Christ, following the way of those who hates him.

    And there are many of them attacking the scriptures,
    and writing their own version.
    Dont join them,its a way to destruction.
    Harvest time is at the door.

    The weed will be burned,and the corn will be stored.

    wakeup.


    You live in the backward dark ages.

    (1114.6) 101:8.2 Belief is always limiting and binding; faith is expanding and releasing. Belief fixates, faith liberates. But living religious faith is more than the association of noble beliefs; it is more than an exalted system of philosophy; it is a living experience concerned with spiritual meanings, divine ideals, and supreme values; it is God-knowing and man-serving. Beliefs may become group possessions, but faith must be personal. Theologic beliefs can be suggested to a group, but faith can rise up only in the heart of the individual religionist.

    (1114.7) 101:8.3 Faith has falsified its trust when it presumes to deny realities and to confer upon its devotees assumed knowledge. Faith is a traitor when it fosters betrayal of intellectual integrity and belittles loyalty to supreme values and divine ideals. Faith never shuns the problem-solving duty of mortal living. Living faith does not foster bigotry, persecution, or intolerance.

    (1115.1) 101:8.4 Faith does not shackle the creative imagination, neither does it maintain an unreasoning prejudice toward the discoveries of scientific investigation. Faith vitalizes religion and constrains the religionist heroically to live the golden rule. The zeal of faith is according to knowledge, and its strivings are the preludes to sublime peace.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I and jesus,the apostles and all the prophets.

    wakeup.


    In the New York Times you may find news facts about real events, but sometimes those facts and the portrayal of those events are discolored by the biased mind and motives of the reporter or writer.

    You trust God and have faith in the Son, I applaud that, but you are making the mistake of deifying even the news accounts that passed through the biased minds of those MEN who wrote about those times.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I believe in God and also his power.
    I believe that God has the power to preserve his word.
    I have not found any contradictions in the old and new
    testament. They are in harmony.
    There is no need for strange books.

    wakeup.

    #354616
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,01:53)
    Colter.

    I believe that God has the power to preserve his word.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, You are correct my friend! YHVH has indeed preserved his word!

    Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them
    (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
    (that is English) will he speak to this people.

    1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
    or at the most by three
    (Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

    The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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