The good news jesus

[Ed J]

Hi Colter,

What do you call a concern for what belongs to you if not Jealousy?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Spock]

Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,14:02)

Hi Colter, What do you call a concern for what belongs to you if not Jealousy? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Love

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,11:12)

Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,10:36) Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. God bless Ed J Edj. I call that the renewing of the mind. Leaving behind the spirit of the world and adopting the spirit of Christ. Not born again;we can only be born twice. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection.
A renewing of the mind is what the bible calls “Born Again”,
resurrection is not a re-birth of any sort my friend.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ May 20 2013,04:23)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,11:12) Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,10:36) Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. God bless Ed J Edj. I call that the renewing of the mind. Leaving behind the spirit of the world and adopting the spirit of Christ. Not born again;we can only be born twice. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. A renewing of the mind is what the bible calls “Born Again”, resurrection is not a re-birth of any sort my friend. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

When you are born of the flesh;you are flesh.
When you are born of the spirit;you are spirit,like the wind.
Born twice. one can not be born no more.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2013,04:29)

Quote (Ed J @ May 20 2013,04:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,11:12) Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,10:36) Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. God bless Ed J Edj. I call that the renewing of the mind. Leaving behind the spirit of the world and adopting the spirit of Christ. Not born again;we can only be born twice. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. A renewing of the mind is what the bible calls “Born Again”, resurrection is not a re-birth of any sort my friend. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj. When you are born of the flesh;you are flesh. When you are born of the spirit;you are spirit,like the wind. Born twice. one can not be born no more. wakeup.

Right, and that's why the resurrection is something else.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ May 20 2013,04:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2013,04:29) Quote (Ed J @ May 20 2013,04:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,11:12) Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,10:36) Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. God bless Ed J Edj. I call that the renewing of the mind. Leaving behind the spirit of the world and adopting the spirit of Christ. Not born again;we can only be born twice. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You mistake our “Spiritual Rebirth” with our physical resurrection. A renewing of the mind is what the bible calls “Born Again”, resurrection is not a re-birth of any sort my friend. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj. When you are born of the flesh;you are flesh. When you are born of the spirit;you are spirit,like the wind. Born twice. one can not be born no more. wakeup. Right, and that's why the resurrection is something else.

Edj.

Can not have it your way.

Zion gave birth to Jesus,and she wilL give birth to his brethren also.ZION=GODS WOMAN(SPIRITUALLY).
GODS WOMAN=TEACHINGS;ETHICS.

Isaiah 66:8.Who hath heard such a thing? Who hath seen such a thing? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? Or shall a nation be **BORN**AT ONCE?
For as soon as ZION travailed,SHE BROUGHT FORTH **HER CHILDREN**(JESUS BRETHREN).(THE SAINTS).

TRAVAILED = GOING THROUGH THE TRIBULATION = LABOUR IN PAIN BEFORE BIRTH.
THE RESURRECTION IS BORN **AGAIN IN SPIRIT**
LIKE THE ANGELS.

This is the resurrection of the saints.

ANY OTHER INTERPRETATIONS IS ERROR,BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS NOT GIVEN.
MAN HAS INTERPRET THIS ACCORDING THEIR OWN SPIRIT,
AND THEREFORE IN ERROR.

wakeup.

[Spock]

The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:31)

The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth. Colter

Hi Colter,

Some people just don't get it. “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom
of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

“And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
 but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they
 may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any
 time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.” (Mark 4:11-12)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:31)

The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth. Colter

Colter.

The seed has been sown by the servavts after the **RECEIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT**;(pantecost), and the weed is growing with the seed. The time of harvest **IS NOT** **CAN NOT**BE the VERY next day after the seeding. The harvesters are the angels and that is the second coming.

Can the field be harvested before the servants has received the seed to sow?

Will you gather grapes before they are fully ripe?
THE SECOND COMING IS TO GATHER THE FULLY RIPE FRUITS.

THE BIBLE IS AVAILEBLE TO US AFTER PANTECOST.
THE COMING IS TO GATHER THEM THAT HAVE BEEN FEEDING ON THE WORD OF GOD.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2013,23:55)

Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:31) The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth. Colter Colter. The seed has been sown by the servavts after the **RECEIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT**;(pantecost), and the weed is growing with the seed. The time of harvest **IS NOT** **CAN NOT**BE the VERY next day after the seeding. The harvesters are the angels and that is the second coming. Can the field be harvested before the servants has received the seed to sow? Will you gather grapes before they are fully ripe? THE SECOND COMING IS TO GATHER THE FULLY RIPE FRUITS. THE BIBLE IS AVAILEBLE TO US AFTER PANTECOST. THE COMING IS TO GATHER THEM THAT HAVE BEEN FEEDING ON THE WORD OF GOD. wakeup.

The first Gospel written was some 40 years after Jesus left and it was written to a Roman audience.

Mark: c. 68–73,
Matthew: c. 70–100
Luke: c. 80–100
John: c. 90–100

There were originally other books that were considered inspired but when the church finally made the bible at The Council of Carthage on 28 August 397 then books were taken away from the Bible.

So, the Bible that we have not was NOT available right after Pentecost. Much mischief took place.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,01:04)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2013,23:55) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:31) The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth. Colter Colter. The seed has been sown by the servavts after the **RECEIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT**;(pantecost), and the weed is growing with the seed. The time of harvest **IS NOT** **CAN NOT**BE the VERY next day after the seeding. The harvesters are the angels and that is the second coming. Can the field be harvested before the servants has received the seed to sow? Will you gather grapes before they are fully ripe? THE SECOND COMING IS TO GATHER THE FULLY RIPE FRUITS. THE BIBLE IS AVAILEBLE TO US AFTER PANTECOST. THE COMING IS TO GATHER THEM THAT HAVE BEEN FEEDING ON THE WORD OF GOD. wakeup. The first Gospel written was some 40 years after Jesus left and it was written to a Roman audience. Mark: c. 68–73, Matthew: c. 70–100 Luke: c. 80–100 John: c. 90–100 There were originally other books that were considered inspired but when the church finally made the bible at The Council of Carthage on 28 August 397 then books were taken away from the Bible. So, the Bible that we have not was NOT available right after Pentecost. Much mischief took place. Colter

Colter.

Dont you know that hystory has been corrupted?
They have been lying to us from the beginning.
You can not depend on what they say.
We must follow the narrow way.

The broad way is for the unbelievers.
You need to have a strong reliable foundation.
The true bible does not lie.
Seek the sciptures and you shall find.

Seek the world ,and you will be lost.
You need to make a detour,and go the narrow way.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,02:53)

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,01:04) Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2013,23:55) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:31) The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth. Colter Colter. The seed has been sown by the servavts after the **RECEIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT**;(pantecost), and the weed is growing with the seed. The time of harvest **IS NOT** **CAN NOT**BE the VERY next day after the seeding. The harvesters are the angels and that is the second coming. Can the field be harvested before the servants has received the seed to sow? Will you gather grapes before they are fully ripe? THE SECOND COMING IS TO GATHER THE FULLY RIPE FRUITS. THE BIBLE IS AVAILEBLE TO US AFTER PANTECOST. THE COMING IS TO GATHER THEM THAT HAVE BEEN FEEDING ON THE WORD OF GOD. wakeup. The first Gospel written was some 40 years after Jesus left and it was written to a Roman audience. Mark: c. 68–73, Matthew: c. 70–100 Luke: c. 80–100 John: c. 90–100 There were originally other books that were considered inspired but when the church finally made the bible at The Council of Carthage on 28 August 397 then books were taken away from the Bible. So, the Bible that we have not was NOT available right after Pentecost. Much mischief took place. Colter Colter. Dont you know that hystory has been corrupted? They have been lying to us from the beginning. You can not depend on what they say. We must follow the narrow way. The broad way is for the unbelievers. You need to have a strong reliable foundation. The true bible does not lie. Seek the sciptures and you shall find. Seek the world ,and you will be lost. You need to make a detour,and go the narrow way. wakeup.

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Colter. Dont you know that hystory has been corrupted? They have been lying to us from the beginning. You can not depend on what they say. We must follow the narrow way. The broad way is for the unbelievers. You need to have a strong reliable foundation. The true bible does not lie. Seek the sciptures and you shall find. Seek the world ,and you will be lost. You need to make a detour,and go the narrow way. wakeup.

I realaze that “they” are corrupt, their Bible is to.

God is the way, I trust him and take the books of the elite priest class with a grain of salt.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,04:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,02:53) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,01:04) Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2013,23:55) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:31) The Spirit of Truth gift was pored out upon all flesh after the ascension and is available now to those who sincerely seek truth. Colter Colter. The seed has been sown by the servavts after the **RECEIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT**;(pantecost), and the weed is growing with the seed. The time of harvest **IS NOT** **CAN NOT**BE the VERY next day after the seeding. The harvesters are the angels and that is the second coming. Can the field be harvested before the servants has received the seed to sow? Will you gather grapes before they are fully ripe? THE SECOND COMING IS TO GATHER THE FULLY RIPE FRUITS. THE BIBLE IS AVAILEBLE TO US AFTER PANTECOST. THE COMING IS TO GATHER THEM THAT HAVE BEEN FEEDING ON THE WORD OF GOD. wakeup. The first Gospel written was some 40 years after Jesus left and it was written to a Roman audience. Mark: c. 68–73, Matthew: c. 70–100 Luke: c. 80–100 John: c. 90–100 There were originally other books that were considered inspired but when the church finally made the bible at The Council of Carthage on 28 August 397 then books were taken away from the Bible. So, the Bible that we have not was NOT available right after Pentecost. Much mischief took place. Colter Colter. Dont you know that hystory has been corrupted? They have been lying to us from the beginning. You can not depend on what they say. We must follow the narrow way. The broad way is for the unbelievers. You need to have a strong reliable foundation. The true bible does not lie. Seek the sciptures and you shall find. Seek the world ,and you will be lost. You need to make a detour,and go the narrow way. wakeup. Quote Colter. Dont you know that hystory has been corrupted? They have been lying to us from the beginning. You can not depend on what they say. We must follow the narrow way. The broad way is for the unbelievers. You need to have a strong reliable foundation. The true bible does not lie. Seek the sciptures and you shall find. Seek the world ,and you will be lost. You need to make a detour,and go the narrow way. wakeup. I realaze that “they” are corrupt, their Bible is to. God is the way, I trust him and take the books of the elite priest class with a grain of salt. Colter

Colter.

You can lead a horse to the water;but you can not make him drink. Not even Gods own words.

The world is too strong to resist,because you have not the armour of God on you. Because of your own choice.

wakeup.

[Spock]

(1629.5) 145:2.4 “You well know that, while a kindhearted father loves his family as a whole, he so regards them as a group because of his strong affection for each individual member of that family. No longer must you approach the Father in heaven as a child of Israel but as a child of God. As a group, you are indeed the children of Israel, but as individuals, each one of you is a child of God. I have come, not to reveal the Father to the children of Israel, but rather to bring this knowledge of God and the revelation of his love and mercy to the individual believer as a genuine personal experience. The prophets have all taught you that Yahweh cares for his people, that God loves Israel. But I have come among you to proclaim a greater truth, one which many of the later prophets also grasped, that God loves you — every one of you — as individuals. All these generations have you had a national or racial religion; now have I come to give you a personal religion.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,21:35)

(1629.5) 145:2.4 “You well know that, while a kindhearted father loves his family as a whole, he so regards them as a group because of his strong affection for each individual member of that family. No longer must you approach the Father in heaven as a child of Israel but as a child of God. As a group, you are indeed the children of Israel, but as individuals, each one of you is a child of God. I have come, not to reveal the Father to the children of Israel, but rather to bring this knowledge of God and the revelation of his love and mercy to the individual believer as a genuine personal experience. The prophets have all taught you that Yahweh cares for his people, that God loves Israel. But I have come among you to proclaim a greater truth, one which many of the later prophets also grasped, that God loves you — every one of you — as individuals. All these generations have you had a national or racial religion; now have I come to give you a personal religion. Colter

Colter.

The father surely loves his children,but children must also be chastised. A father will not let his children run wild.
The rebelling children will be warned. And if they keep on rebelling they will be disowned.They will not be amongst the good children to contaminate them.

You will not have your children associate with murderers,
would you?

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,22:55)

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,21:35) (1629.5) 145:2.4 “You well know that, while a kindhearted father loves his family as a whole, he so regards them as a group because of his strong affection for each individual member of that family. No longer must you approach the Father in heaven as a child of Israel but as a child of God. As a group, you are indeed the children of Israel, but as individuals, each one of you is a child of God. I have come, not to reveal the Father to the children of Israel, but rather to bring this knowledge of God and the revelation of his love and mercy to the individual believer as a genuine personal experience. The prophets have all taught you that Yahweh cares for his people, that God loves Israel. But I have come among you to proclaim a greater truth, one which many of the later prophets also grasped, that God loves you — every one of you — as individuals. All these generations have you had a national or racial religion; now have I come to give you a personal religion. Colter Colter. The father surely loves his children,but children must also be chastised. A father will not let his children run wild. The rebelling children will be warned. And if they keep on rebelling they will be disowned.They will not be amongst the good children to contaminate them. You will not have your children associate with murderers, would you? wakeup.

To one who lives a “decided life”, meaning, surrendered to the will of the indwelling spirit, he sets the bar at the guiding over care of the Father in heaven.

Jesus was seen as a rebel by the inflexible OT thinkers.

…..”The religions of authority can only divide men and set them in conscientious array against each other”…..

The Second Discourse on Religion

Northern Galilee, Jesus:

(1730.5) 155:6.1 And so, while they paused in the shade of the hillside, Jesus continued to teach them regarding the religion of the spirit, in substance saying:

(1730.6) 155:6.2 You have come out from among those of your fellows who choose to remain satisfied with a religion of mind, who crave security and prefer conformity. You have elected to exchange your feelings of authoritative certainty for the assurances of the spirit of adventurous and progressive faith. You have dared to protest against the grueling bondage of institutional religion and to reject the authority of the traditions of record which are now regarded as the word of God. Our Father did indeed speak through Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Amos, and Hosea, but he did not cease to minister words of truth to the world when these prophets of old made an end of their utterances. My Father is no respecter of races or generations in that the word of truth is vouchsafed one age and withheld from another. Commit not the folly of calling that divine which is wholly human, and fail not to discern the words of truth which come not through the traditional oracles of supposed inspiration.

(1731.1) 155:6.3 I have called upon you to be born again, to be born of the spirit. I have called you out of the darkness of authority and the lethargy of tradition into the transcendent light of the realization of the possibility of making for yourselves the greatest discovery possible for the human soul to make — the supernal experience of finding God for yourself, in yourself, and of yourself, and of doing all this as a fact in your own personal experience. And so may you pass from death to life, from the authority of tradition to the experience of knowing God; thus will you pass from darkness to light, from a racial faith inherited to a personal faith achieved by actual experience; and thereby will you progress from a theology of mind handed down by your ancestors to a true religion of spirit which shall be built up in your souls as an eternal endowment.

(1731.2) 155:6.4 Your religion shall change from the mere intellectual belief in traditional authority to the actual experience of that living faith which is able to grasp the reality of God and all that relates to the divine spirit of the Father. The religion of the mind ties you hopelessly to the past; the religion of the spirit consists in progressive revelation and ever beckons you on toward higher and holier achievements in spiritual ideals and eternal realities.

(1731.3) 155:6.5 While the religion of authority may impart a present feeling of settled security, you pay for such a transient satisfaction the price of the loss of your spiritual freedom and religious liberty. My Father does not require of you as the price of entering the kingdom of heaven that you should force yourself to subscribe to a belief in things which are spiritually repugnant, unholy, and untruthful. It is not required of you that your own sense of mercy, justice, and truth should be outraged by submission to an outworn system of religious forms and ceremonies. The religion of the spirit leaves you forever free to follow the truth wherever the leadings of the spirit may take you. And who can judge — perhaps this spirit may have something to impart to this generation which other generations have refused to hear?

(1731.4) 155:6.6 Shame on those false religious teachers who would drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to become frightened by every new discovery, while they are discomfited by every new revelation of truth. The prophet who said, “He will be kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on God,” was not a mere intellectual believer in authoritative theology. This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely talking about God.

(1731.5) 155:6.7 I admonish you to give up the practice of always quoting the prophets of old and praising the heroes of Israel, and instead aspire to become living prophets of the Most High and spiritual heroes of the coming kingdom. To honor the God-knowing leaders of the past may indeed be worth while, but why, in so doing, should you sacrifice the supreme experience of human existence: finding God for yourselves and knowing him in your own souls?

(1732.1) 155:6.8 Every race of mankind has its own mental outlook upon human existence; therefore must the religion of the mind ever run true to these various racial viewpoints. Never can the religions of authority come to unification. Human unity and mortal brotherhood can be achieved only by and through the superendowment of the religion of the spirit. Racial minds may differ, but all mankind is indwelt by the same divine and eternal spirit. The hope of human brotherhood can only be realized when, and as, the divergent mind religions of authority become impregnated with, and overshadowed by, the unifying and ennobling religion of the spirit — the religion of personal spiritual experience.

(1732.2) 155:6.9 The religions of authority can only divide men and set them in conscientious array against each other; the religion of the spirit will progressively draw men together and cause them to become understandingly sympathetic with one another. The religions of authority require of men uniformity in belief, but this is impossible of realization in the present state of the world. The religion of the spirit requires only unity of experience — uniformity of destiny — making full allowance for di
versity of belief. The religion of the spirit requires only uniformity of insight, not uniformity of viewpoint and outlook. The religion of the spirit does not demand uniformity of intellectual views, only unity of spirit feeling. The religions of authority crystallize into lifeless creeds; the religion of the spirit grows into the increasing joy and liberty of ennobling deeds of loving service and merciful ministration.

(1732.3) 155:6.10 But watch, lest any of you look with disdain upon the children of Abraham because they have fallen on these evil days of traditional barrenness. Our forefathers gave themselves up to the persistent and passionate search for God, and they found him as no other whole race of men have ever known him since the times of Adam, who knew much of this as he was himself a Son of God. My Father has not failed to mark the long and untiring struggle of Israel, ever since the days of Moses, to find God and to know God. For weary generations the Jews have not ceased to toil, sweat, groan, travail, and endure the sufferings and experience the sorrows of a misunderstood and despised people, all in order that they might come a little nearer the discovery of the truth about God. And, notwithstanding all the failures and falterings of Israel, our fathers progressively, from Moses to the times of Amos and Hosea, did reveal increasingly to the whole world an ever clearer and more truthful picture of the eternal God. And so was the way prepared for the still greater revelation of the Father which you have been called to share.

(1732.4) 155:6.11 Never forget there is only one adventure which is more satisfying and thrilling than the attempt to discover the will of the living God, and that is the supreme experience of honestly trying to do that divine will. And fail not to remember that the will of God can be done in any earthly occupation. Some callings are not holy and others secular. All things are sacred in the lives of those who are spirit led; that is, subordinated to truth, ennobled by love, dominated by mercy, and restrained by fairness — justice. The spirit which my Father and I shall send into the world is not only the Spirit of Truth but also the spirit of idealistic beauty.

(1732.5) 155:6.12 You must cease to seek for the word of God only on the pages of the olden records of theologic authority. Those who are born of the spirit of God shall henceforth discern the word of God regardless of whence it appears to take origin. Divine truth must not be discounted because the channel of its bestowal is apparently human. Many of your brethren have minds which accept the theory of God while they spiritually fail to realize the presence of God. And that is just the reason why I have so often taught you that the kingdom of heaven can best be realized by acquiring the spiritual attitude of a sincere child. It is not the mental immaturity of the child that I commend to you but rather the spiritual simplicity of such an easy-believing and fully-trusting little one. It is not so important that you should know about the fact of God as that you should increasingly grow in the ability to feel the presence of God.

(1733.1) 155:6.13 When you once begin to find God in your soul, presently you will begin to discover him in other men’s souls and eventually in all the creatures and creations of a mighty universe. But what chance does the Father have to appear as a God of supreme loyalties and divine ideals in the souls of men who give little or no time to the thoughtful contemplation of such eternal realities? While the mind is not the seat of the spiritual nature, it is indeed the gateway thereto.

(1733.2) 155:6.14 But do not make the mistake of trying to prove to other men that you have found God; you cannot consciously produce such valid proof, albeit there are two positive and powerful demonstrations of the fact that you are God-knowing, and they are:

   (1733.3) 155:6.15 1. The fruits of the spirit of God showing forth in your daily routine life.

   (1733.4) 155:6.16 2. The fact that your entire life plan furnishes positive proof that you have unreservedly risked everything you are and have on the adventure of survival after death in the pursuit of the hope of finding the God of eternity, whose presence you have foretasted in time.

(1733.5) 155:6.17 Now, mistake not, my Father will ever respond to the faintest flicker of faith. He takes note of the physical and superstitious emotions of the primitive man. And with those honest but fearful souls whose faith is so weak that it amounts to little more than an intellectual conformity to a passive attitude of assent to religions of authority, the Father is ever alert to honor and foster even all such feeble attempts to reach out for him. But you who have been called out of darkness into the light are expected to believe with a whole heart; your faith shall dominate the combined attitudes of body, mind, and spirit.

(1733.6) 155:6.18 You are my apostles, and to you religion shall not become a theologic shelter to which you may flee in fear of facing the rugged realities of spiritual progress and idealistic adventure; but rather shall your religion become the fact of real experience which testifies that God has found you, idealized, ennobled, and spiritualized you, and that you have enlisted in the eternal adventure of finding the God who has thus found and sonshipped you.

(1733.7) 155:6.19 And when Jesus had finished speaking, he beckoned to Andrew and, pointing to the west toward Phoenicia, said: “Let us be on our way.”

Colter

[Spock]

…..”James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike?”….

Spiritual Unity

(1591.6) 141:5.1 One of the most eventful of all the evening conferences at Amathus was the session having to do with the discussion of spiritual unity. James Zebedee had asked, “Master, how shall we learn to see alike and thereby enjoy more harmony among ourselves?” When Jesus heard this question, he was stirred within his spirit, so much so that he replied: “James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike? I have come into the world to proclaim spiritual liberty to the end that mortals may be empowered to live individual lives of originality and freedom before God. I do not desire that social harmony and fraternal peace shall be purchased by the sacrifice of free personality and spiritual originality. What I require of you, my apostles, is spirit unity — and that you can experience in the joy of your united dedication to the wholehearted doing of the will of my Father in heaven. You do not have to see alike or feel alike or even think alike in order spiritually to be alike. Spiritual unity is derived from the consciousness that each of you is indwelt, and increasingly dominated, by the spirit gift of the heavenly Father. Your apostolic harmony must grow out of the fact that the spirit hope of each of you is identical in origin, nature, and destiny.

(1591.7) 141:5.2 “In this way you may experience a perfected unity of spirit purpose and spirit understanding growing out of the mutual consciousness of the identity of each of your indwelling Paradise spirits; and you may enjoy all of this profound spiritual unity in the very face of the utmost diversity of your individual attitudes of intellectual thinking, temperamental feeling, and social conduct. Your personalities may be refreshingly diverse and markedly different, while your spiritual natures and spirit fruits of divine worship and brotherly love may be so unified that all who behold your lives will of a surety take cognizance of this spirit identity and soul unity; they will recognize that you have been with me and have thereby learned, and acceptably, how to do the will of the Father in heaven. You can achieve the unity of the service of God even while you render such service in accordance with the technique of your own original endowments of mind, body, and soul.

(1592.1) 141:5.3 “Your spirit unity implies two things, which always will be found to harmonize in the lives of individual believers: First, you are possessed with a common motive for life service; you all desire above everything to do the will of the Father in heaven. Second, you all have a common goal of existence; you all purpose to find the Father in heaven, thereby proving to the universe that you have become like him.”

(1592.2) 141:5.4 Many times during the training of the twelve Jesus reverted to this theme. Repeatedly he told them it was not his desire that those who believed in him should become dogmatized and standardized in accordance with the religious interpretations of even good men. Again and again he warned his apostles against the formulation of creeds and the establishment of traditions as a means of guiding and controlling believers in the gospel of the kingdom.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,03:41)

…..”James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike?”…. Spiritual Unity (1591.6) 141:5.1 One of the most eventful of all the evening conferences at Amathus was the session having to do with the discussion of spiritual unity. James Zebedee had asked, “Master, how shall we learn to see alike and thereby enjoy more harmony among ourselves?” When Jesus heard this question, he was stirred within his spirit, so much so that he replied: “James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike? I have come into the world to proclaim spiritual liberty to the end that mortals may be empowered to live individual lives of originality and freedom before God. I do not desire that social harmony and fraternal peace shall be purchased by the sacrifice of free personality and spiritual originality. What I require of you, my apostles, is spirit unity — and that you can experience in the joy of your united dedication to the wholehearted doing of the will of my Father in heaven. You do not have to see alike or feel alike or even think alike in order spiritually to be alike. Spiritual unity is derived from the consciousness that each of you is indwelt, and increasingly dominated, by the spirit gift of the heavenly Father. Your apostolic harmony must grow out of the fact that the spirit hope of each of you is identical in origin, nature, and destiny. (1591.7) 141:5.2 “In this way you may experience a perfected unity of spirit purpose and spirit understanding growing out of the mutual consciousness of the identity of each of your indwelling Paradise spirits; and you may enjoy all of this profound spiritual unity in the very face of the utmost diversity of your individual attitudes of intellectual thinking, temperamental feeling, and social conduct. Your personalities may be refreshingly diverse and markedly different, while your spiritual natures and spirit fruits of divine worship and brotherly love may be so unified that all who behold your lives will of a surety take cognizance of this spirit identity and soul unity; they will recognize that you have been with me and have thereby learned, and acceptably, how to do the will of the Father in heaven. You can achieve the unity of the service of God even while you render such service in accordance with the technique of your own original endowments of mind, body, and soul. (1592.1) 141:5.3 “Your spirit unity implies two things, which always will be found to harmonize in the lives of individual believers: First, you are possessed with a common motive for life service; you all desire above everything to do the will of the Father in heaven. Second, you all have a common goal of existence; you all purpose to find the Father in heaven, thereby proving to the universe that you have become like him.” (1592.2) 141:5.4 Many times during the training of the twelve Jesus reverted to this theme. Repeatedly he told them it was not his desire that those who believed in him should become dogmatized and standardized in accordance with the religious interpretations of even good men. Again and again he warned his apostles against the formulation of creeds and the establishment of traditions as a means of guiding and controlling believers in the gospel of the kingdom. Colter

Colter.

That was another jesus speaking;not the Jesus of the bible.
A man invented Jesus.

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers ***by the prophets***,

Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us ***by his Son***, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

God spoke to the prophets; and the *SAME GOD*
spoke through Jesus.

Wether old or new; it is the **same God** speaking.

You have rejected old and new; and still claim to be a christian. The word christian means: FOLLOWER OF CHRIST.
You are a follower of another christ.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:40)

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,03:41) …..”James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike?”…. Spiritual Unity (1591.6) 141:5.1 One of the most eventful of all the evening conferences at Amathus was the session having to do with the discussion of spiritual unity. James Zebedee had asked, “Master, how shall we learn to see alike and thereby enjoy more harmony among ourselves?” When Jesus heard this question, he was stirred within his spirit, so much so that he replied: “James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike? I have come into the world to proclaim spiritual liberty to the end that mortals may be empowered to live individual lives of originality and freedom before God. I do not desire that social harmony and fraternal peace shall be purchased by the sacrifice of free personality and spiritual originality. What I require of you, my apostles, is spirit unity — and that you can experience in the joy of your united dedication to the wholehearted doing of the will of my Father in heaven. You do not have to see alike or feel alike or even think alike in order spiritually to be alike. Spiritual unity is derived from the consciousness that each of you is indwelt, and increasingly dominated, by the spirit gift of the heavenly Father. Your apostolic harmony must grow out of the fact that the spirit hope of each of you is identical in origin, nature, and destiny. (1591.7) 141:5.2 “In this way you may experience a perfected unity of spirit purpose and spirit understanding growing out of the mutual consciousness of the identity of each of your indwelling Paradise spirits; and you may enjoy all of this profound spiritual unity in the very face of the utmost diversity of your individual attitudes of intellectual thinking, temperamental feeling, and social conduct. Your personalities may be refreshingly diverse and markedly different, while your spiritual natures and spirit fruits of divine worship and brotherly love may be so unified that all who behold your lives will of a surety take cognizance of this spirit identity and soul unity; they will recognize that you have been with me and have thereby learned, and acceptably, how to do the will of the Father in heaven. You can achieve the unity of the service of God even while you render such service in accordance with the technique of your own original endowments of mind, body, and soul. (1592.1) 141:5.3 “Your spirit unity implies two things, which always will be found to harmonize in the lives of individual believers: First, you are possessed with a common motive for life service; you all desire above everything to do the will of the Father in heaven. Second, you all have a common goal of existence; you all purpose to find the Father in heaven, thereby proving to the universe that you have become like him.” (1592.2) 141:5.4 Many times during the training of the twelve Jesus reverted to this theme. Repeatedly he told them it was not his desire that those who believed in him should become dogmatized and standardized in accordance with the religious interpretations of even good men. Again and again he warned his apostles against the formulation of creeds and the establishment of traditions as a means of guiding and controlling believers in the gospel of the kingdom. Colter Colter. That was another jesus speaking;not the Jesus of the bible. A man invented Jesus. Hebrews 1:1   God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers ***by the prophets***,  Hebrews 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us ***by his Son***, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; God spoke to the prophets; and the *SAME GOD* spoke through Jesus. Wether old or new; it is the **same God** speaking. You have rejected old and new; and still claim to be a christian. The word christian means:  FOLLOWER OF CHRIST. You are a follower of another christ. wakeup.

I've never claimed to be a Christian, I'm defiantly not a Christian, I am a disciple of Jesus, the religion OF Jesus. Christianity is a religion ABOUT Jesus. Christianity drains many an ancient Pagan swamp to gather it's inconsistent doctrine(s).

And whats funny is that you quoted Hebrews which was a controversial book itself added reluctantly to the cannon much latter.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:09)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,10:40) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,03:41) …..”James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike?”…. Spiritual Unity (1591.6) 141:5.1 One of the most eventful of all the evening conferences at Amathus was the session having to do with the discussion of spiritual unity. James Zebedee had asked, “Master, how shall we learn to see alike and thereby enjoy more harmony among ourselves?” When Jesus heard this question, he was stirred within his spirit, so much so that he replied: “James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike? I have come into the world to proclaim spiritual liberty to the end that mortals may be empowered to live individual lives of originality and freedom before God. I do not desire that social harmony and fraternal peace shall be purchased by the sacrifice of free personality and spiritual originality. What I require of you, my apostles, is spirit unity — and that you can experience in the joy of your united dedication to the wholehearted doing of the will of my Father in heaven. You do not have to see alike or feel alike or even think alike in order spiritually to be alike. Spiritual unity is derived from the consciousness that each of you is indwelt, and increasingly dominated, by the spirit gift of the heavenly Father. Your apostolic harmony must grow out of the fact that the spirit hope of each of you is identical in origin, nature, and destiny. (1591.7) 141:5.2 “In this way you may experience a perfected unity of spirit purpose and spirit understanding growing out of the mutual consciousness of the identity of each of your indwelling Paradise spirits; and you may enjoy all of this profound spiritual unity in the very face of the utmost diversity of your individual attitudes of intellectual thinking, temperamental feeling, and social conduct. Your personalities may be refreshingly diverse and markedly different, while your spiritual natures and spirit fruits of divine worship and brotherly love may be so unified that all who behold your lives will of a surety take cognizance of this spirit identity and soul unity; they will recognize that you have been with me and have thereby learned, and acceptably, how to do the will of the Father in heaven. You can achieve the unity of the service of God even while you render such service in accordance with the technique of your own original endowments of mind, body, and soul. (1592.1) 141:5.3 “Your spirit unity implies two things, which always will be found to harmonize in the lives of individual believers: First, you are possessed with a common motive for life service; you all desire above everything to do the will of the Father in heaven. Second, you all have a common goal of existence; you all purpose to find the Father in heaven, thereby proving to the universe that you have become like him.” (1592.2) 141:5.4 Many times during the training of the twelve Jesus reverted to this theme. Repeatedly he told them it was not his desire that those who believed in him should become dogmatized and standardized in accordance with the religious interpretations of even good men. Again and again he warned his apostles against the formulation of creeds and the establishment of traditions as a means of guiding and controlling believers in the gospel of the kingdom. Colter Colter. That was another jesus speaking;not the Jesus of the bible. A man invented Jesus. Hebrews 1:1   God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers ***by the prophets***,  Hebrews 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us ***by his Son***, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; God spoke to the prophets; and the *SAME GOD* spoke through Jesus. Wether old or new; it is the **same God** speaking. You have rejected old and new; and still claim to be a christian. The word christian means:  FOLLOWER OF CHRIST. You are a follower of another christ. wakeup. I've never claimed to be a Christian, I'm defiantly not a Christian, I am a disciple of Jesus, the religion OF Jesus. Christianity is a religion ABOUT Jesus. Christianity drains many an ancient Pagan swamp to gather it's inconsistent doctrine(s). And whats funny is that you quoted Hebrews which was a controversial book itself added reluctantly to the cannon much latter. Colter

Colter.

You said your not a christian;so you are not a follower of christ.

But use the name Jesus for your own gain.
You should not quote any scriptures to support your doctrine,for they belong to christians only.

I personally think that you are in the twilight zone.

wakeup.

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