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  • #784291
    Wakeup
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    THIS PARABLE IS ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
    AND ABOUT THE FIRST WILL BE LAST AND THE LAST,FIRST.

    Matthew 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

    Matthew 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

    Matthew 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,

    Matthew 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.

    Matthew 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

    Matthew 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?

    Matthew 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.

    Matthew 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, AND GIVE THEM THEIR HIRE, BEGINNING FROM THE LAST UNTO THE FIRST.

    Matthew 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

    Matthew 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

    Matthew 20:11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,

    Matthew 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

    Matthew 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?

    Matthew 20:14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

    Matthew 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

    Matthew 20:16 SO THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST, AND THE FIRST LAST: FOR MANY ARE CALLED, BUT A FEW CHOSEN.
    THE JEWS WERE CALLED FIRST ;THEY WILL BE LAST RESURRECTED.(IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION).
    THE GENTILES WERE CALLED LAST;THEY WILL BE RESURRECTED FIRST.
    THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
    THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR.
    (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

    wakeup

    #784363
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Years of learning?

    Is this written or just presumed?

    #784366
    terraricca
    Participant

    WAKEUP

    THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
    THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR. (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

    THIS IS YOUR TEACHINGS AND IF YOU ARE ASKED TO PRODUCE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE YOUR TEACHINGS TRUE ,YOU HAVE TO LIE AND TWIST THE SCRIPTURES AND BREAK OTHERS ;

    THIS SHOWS WHAT KIND OF TEACHER YOU REALLY ARE RIGHT ? SO TO PROVE MY POINT I WILL ASK YOU TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS IN THE SCRIPTURES ;PLEASE

    #784374
    journey42
    Participant

    WAKEUP

    THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
    THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR. (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

    THIS IS YOUR TEACHINGS AND IF YOU ARE ASKED TO PRODUCE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE YOUR TEACHINGS TRUE ,YOU HAVE TO LIE AND TWIST THE SCRIPTURES AND BREAK OTHERS ;

    THIS SHOWS WHAT KIND OF TEACHER YOU REALLY ARE RIGHT ? SO TO PROVE MY POINT I WILL ASK YOU TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS IN THE SCRIPTURES ;PLEASE

    Pierre

    Another example of your conduct.
    The Jews believe because they were chosen first that the kingdom belongs to them. Ask any Jew.
    They laboured for thousands of years, and many are still labouring today.
    But the gentiles who have come to God have not laboured for as long as them, but are coming in even now close to the end.

    Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

    Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    When Christ comes, they will think it unfair, that it should of gone to them (the resurrection)
    But only the wicked ones will think this, and they will not take part in the kingdom, so it will go to their brethren from all past generations and survivors of them from Armageddon. God will show his mercy to them, but they will be bought back in the flesh, and they will get resurrected in the 2nd resurrection, so they will be last, not first.

    Wakeup has spoken truth, you just did not understand where he was coming from, but attacked straight away.
    He is bringing up all these posts because he has living water bursting out of him, not sewerage.

    #784388
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

     

    It seems that you need the Holy Spirit to understand Jesus parables.

    The apostles did not understand until given the Holy Spirit.

    wakeup

    #784390
    Wakeup
    Participant

     

    Journey42.

     

    Terra has displayed his own form and void.

     

    wakeup

    #784415
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    Terra.

    It seems that you need the Holy Spirit to understand Jesus parables.

    The apostles did not understand until given the Holy Spirit.

    wakeup

    were in those two scriptures can you see what you are saying ?

    Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

    Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
    THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR. (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

    THIS IS YOUR TEACHINGS AND IF YOU ARE ASKED TO PRODUCE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE YOUR TEACHINGS TRUE ,YOU HAVE TO LIE AND TWIST THE SCRIPTURES AND BREAK OTHERS ;

    THIS SHOWS WHAT KIND OF TEACHER YOU REALLY ARE RIGHT ? SO TO PROVE MY POINT I WILL ASK YOU TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS IN THE SCRIPTURES ;PLEASE

    telling that the others don’t understand does not cut it ;this answer is at the least ridicule

    #784416
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    Journey42.

    Terra has displayed his own form and void.

    wakeup

    useless quote

    #784417
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    it is obvious you have no clue of what his the kingdom or the holy spirit ,and based on what you know about the son of God ,you do not know him as well ,

    the things you know is really region dogma or your own making stories

    #784420
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    All I want is proof, not accusations.
    Proof; not by just quoting scripture after scripture That does not proof me wrong.
    What you need to do is quote the scriptures that I have interpreted wrongly.
    In other words; contradict my scriptures with your scriptures.

    wakeup

    #784422
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    all I want is some answers to my question so that you could be proven true ;so please do it

    #784426
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Why are you shying away from good questions?
    40 years of reading many bibles?
    And can not defend the scriptures?
    You are standing naked I see. Please get something to cover your nakedness.

    wakeup

    #784428
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    you told me you have 40 years in bible study ,i wandering why you would ask me anything ;

    but i only ask you to show me where in scriptures you find that new revelation of yours ,but you only tell us all we do not have this or that or should ; this is definitely no answer

    this tells me that 40 years of study did not give a lot is it ?

    #784441
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    It is the Spirit within them that raises those in the first resurrection.

    But you do not think you need the Spirit?

    You must be reborn from above

    #784442
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    THE JEWS WERE CALLED FIRST ;THEY WILL BE LAST RESURRECTED.(IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION).
    THE GENTILES WERE CALLED LAST;THEY WILL BE RESURRECTED FIRST.
    THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
    THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR.
    (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

    This conclusion does not follow from what you wrote.

    #784445
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin.

     

    If this is so, please state,So I can learn.

     

    wakeup.

    #784451
    journey42
    Participant

    Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

    Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    If Israel are provoked to jealousy, then what is this jealousy?
    That the gentiles will receive “Israel’s inheritance” FIRST instead of them.

    The inheritance is received at the 1st resurrection.
    The Jews were given the doctrine of God first, in the old testament,
    and then when Christ came he preached to the Jews first also, giving them first hand news.
    But because they rejected, their hearts were hardened, so they will miss out at the coming.

    but…mercy will be given to the Jews, not because of works, but because of God’s mercy, and they will be taught Christ during the 1000 years.
    So those first ones, the Jews will receive their inheritance LAST,  (at the 2nd resurrection)
    and the last ones, the gentiles, will receive Israel’s inheritance FIRST.

    This is how they will be provoked to jealousy.  They are not jealous now, for they are anti-christs.  They don’t believe God sent Christ.  They think we are naive for believing this, therefore not jealous at the moment…but when all is revealed at the coming, and they are not resurrected, but the gentiles instead and given their kingdom for an inheritance, jealousy will come.

    Luke 13:28    There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

    The gentiles will be joined with their fathers of old, not them.

    Matthew 20:16    So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

     

    Now can anyone prove Wakeup doesn’t know what he’s talking about?

    Is he not bringing something to your attention that you never considered before?

    Has anyone else got a better explanation?

    #784454
    journey42
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Years of learning?

    Is this written or just presumed?

    Nick

    He is fully loaded, your comment was just to put down.

    #784458
    journey42
    Participant

    THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
    THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR. (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

    WAKEUP
    THIS IS YOUR TEACHINGS AND IF YOU ARE ASKED TO PRODUCE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE YOUR TEACHINGS TRUE ,YOU HAVE TO LIE AND TWIST THE SCRIPTURES AND BREAK OTHERS ;

    THIS SHOWS WHAT KIND OF TEACHER YOU REALLY ARE RIGHT ? SO TO PROVE MY POINT I WILL ASK YOU TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS IN THE SCRIPTURES ;PLEASE
    THIS IS YOUR TEACHINGS AND IF YOU ARE ASKED TO PRODUCE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE YOUR TEACHINGS TRUE ,YOU HAVE TO LIE AND TWIST THE SCRIPTURES AND BREAK OTHERS ;

    THIS SHOWS WHAT KIND OF TEACHER YOU REALLY ARE RIGHT ? SO TO PROVE MY POINT I WILL ASK YOU TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS IN THE SCRIPTURES ;PLEASE

    Pierre

    Wakeup has just answered you that the Jews have to learn Christ before they can get an inheritance. Just like we have to do now.
    They don’t get automatically saved by just getting baptised, but have to learn the doctrine of God and walk it before claiming the prize, just like us.

    #784461
    terraricca
    Participant

    j42 /wakeup

    Pierre

    Wakeup has just answered you that the Jews have to learn Christ before they can get an inheritance. Just like we have to do now.
    They don’t get automatically saved by just getting baptised, but have to learn the doctrine of God and walk it before claiming the prize, just like us.

    i did not ask for his opinion but for the scriptures that can backup his claims ;

    but it seems you also do not know those scriptures ; ? why is that ? are you inventing things lies ? for whatever is not true is a lie ,it can not be both does it ? no

    remember if you teach you are a big person ;and so as to answer to the questions ;but you guy’s hardly do that and if you answer the answer put more mud than clear water on that question ; how truthful is that ? who is your master ?

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