The first dominion

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Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,14:45)

Quote Please think about this. 2 Peter 3:10   but the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night…… If you are already dead, even from long time ago, and if you have not been accepted in the first resurrection, then you will be raised in the 2nd resurrection to be judged.  This is the day of the Lord for you.  He will be there standing at the door. For those who are alive at the Lord's coming, will not be in darkness, for he gave us signs so that we can know the season.  He will not come as a thief in the night if they are watching the signs.  They will even tell you what comes next, and next after that, and next after that, for it is all in the scriptures. 2Peter 3:10 is speaking of the 2nd JUDGEMENT.  This happens after the thousand years.  How do I know that? Rev 20:5   ….and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:6   ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years. This can only happen AFTER THE COMING, when the saints are resurrected.  Not before. read on; Rev 20:7   And when THE THOUSAND YEARS ARE EXPIRED, Satan shall be loosed out his prison Read on again, keep going. Get your bible out. They attack the camp of the saints, and fire comes out of heaven from God and kills Mog and Magog.  This is a different battle.  This is not the false prophet, as he was thrown into the lake of fire with the beast a thousand years earlier by CHRIST.  That was Christ's priveledge to destroy him.  You have completely ignored the 1000 years, and therefore can not discern the time frame. Only after the 1000 years, will the 2nd judgement occur, then the whole earth will be melted.  It has to happen in this order.  Even death itself will be destroyed, and when God has put all enemies under Christ's feet, Christ will then submit the kingdom back to his Father, and Christ will always be with the Father, never without him. Christ is given a specific job to do.  To rule the nations for a thousand years.  This is Christ's glory, King of Kings, Lord of Lords.  You can not take this away from him.  God has assigned him to complete this job in the FIRST DOMINION, so future generations can also have a chance.

Let me make myself more clear.

The saints can only rule with Christ after the resurrection which happens at the 2 coming.

They will rule with him for a thousand years.

After the thousand years, Gog will be killed by God, and he will be buried at Hamon-Gog (Ezekiel 39:11)  I already showed you this.  
Whereas, The false prophet gets thrown into the lake of fire. (Rev 19:20)  Not buried.  DISCERN.  HEAR THE PROPHETS.
After Gog and his armies (Magog) get buried, it will take seven months to bury the dead (Ezekiel 39:12) DISCERN.

Two seperate events.  If you are confusing this with the coming, and say that the earth will be melted then, then how do you explain the 7 months lingering?  Does the earth still linger on with people smelling the stench of the dead after the earth is melted.  It does not make sense. PLEASE DISCERN. HEAR THE PROPHETS.

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j42

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Rev 20:6 ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years

are those not the 144k

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Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,15:08)

Quote j42 Quote Rev 20:6   ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years are those not the 144k

No Pierre,

The 144,000 are just the first ones resurrected.  The FIRSTFRUITS.  If they are the first, then there are others to follow.    

The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God  
They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days.  They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes.

There are others also in the first resurrection.  The ones that followed Christ, and already died, and ones also that refused the mark of the beast last minute, and were killed, or imprisoned.  All these will take part in the first resurrection also, for they have had their robes washed white.

[Ed J]

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Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,14:49) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,14:31) Hi Journey42, Are you equating your understanding of Prophecy with the receiving of a prophet and thus deserving of “a Prophet's reward”? God bless Ed J Hi Ed, You finally got it! Anyone who receives a prophet, can receive a prophets reward.  UNDERSTANDING PROPHESIES. Hi Georgie, So what is the reward you are deserving of for your way of understanding Prophecy? God bless Ed J

Hi Georgie,

Are you going to continue to ignore my question or answer it?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,15:31)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,14:55) Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,14:49) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,14:31) Hi Journey42, Are you equating your understanding of Prophecy with the receiving of a prophet and thus deserving of “a Prophet's reward”? God bless Ed J Hi Ed, You finally got it! Anyone who receives a prophet, can receive a prophets reward.  UNDERSTANDING PROPHESIES. Hi Georgie, So what is the reward you are deserving of for your way of understanding Prophecy? God bless Ed J Hi Georgie, Are you going to continue to ignore my question or answer it? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed,

Sorry, I thought you got it, but I was wrong. I know you want to distract from the subject, and you sound angry by your tone.
It's not about me Ed, it's about all of us. God is showing us future, through his prophets.

He who receives a prophet, receives a prophets reward. A prophets reward is the gift of understanding the prophesies. It's a gift Ed, and available to all who want it. You can't learn this stuff from numbers. It won't come.

[Ed J]

Hi Georgie,

“Circular logic”, but thanks for your answer.
Just because I have to repeat my questions
to get an answer doesn't mean I get angry??

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,10:19)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,15:08) Quote j42 Quote Rev 20:6   ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years are those not the 144k No Pierre, The 144,000 are just the first ones resurrected.  The FIRSTFRUITS.  If they are the first, then there are others to follow.     The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God   They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days.  They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes. There are others also in the first resurrection.  The ones that followed Christ, and already died, and ones also that refused the mark of the beast last minute, and were killed, or imprisoned.  All these will take part in the first resurrection also, for they have had their robes washed white.

J42

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The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days. They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes.

scriptures for “”They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days “”

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j42

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No Pierre, The 144,000 are just the first ones resurrected. The FIRSTFRUITS. If they are the first, then there are others to follow.

so who are the ones in this verse ;
Rev 20:6 ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years

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Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,10:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,15:08) Quote j42 Quote Rev 20:6   ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years are those not the 144k No Pierre, The 144,000 are just the first ones resurrected.  The FIRSTFRUITS.  If they are the first, then there are others to follow.     The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God   They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days.  They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes. There are others also in the first resurrection.  The ones that followed Christ, and already died, and ones also that refused the mark of the beast last minute, and were killed, or imprisoned.  All these will take part in the first resurrection also, for they have had their robes washed white. J42 Quote The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God   They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days.  They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes. scriptures for “”They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days “”

Pierre

Just before the trumpets start blowing (which is the wrath of God on Babylon) God says to the four angels who are holding the four winds, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor the sea, nor on any tree until the 144,000 are sealed.

Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

This means they are alive. Just before the trumpets blow. When the plagues come, these 144,000 will not be touched.

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree: but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads

This is already the fifth angel. So they are still alive here.

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth, and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image.

This is the first angel. The ones with the mark of the beast are getting the first plagues. Why only is this happening to those with the mark? Because there are others who do not have it, the sealed ones. (the 144,000) It will be just like it was at the passover for them when God killed all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, except for the hebrews children.

These firstfruits, God has kept aside for himself. They are the pick of the bunch. Maybe 10% of the Christians saved?

[journey42]

journey42,Dec. wrote:

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For the next few days I am going to be occupied, and will not be on heaven net.  I will answer all questions, when I get back.  

You are all welcome to discuss amongst yourselves in the time being.

Take care everyone,
and God bless.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,12:37)

j42 Quote Israel play a very big part in God's plan.  We cannot ignore.   Q.   Why is it important that we know? A.   For Christ and the saints will be teaching them, and they will teach the surviving nations, only during the millenium, after Christ returns, and not a day before. If we cannot accept this and reject this truth openly, we will not be a part of this wonderful plan that God has orchestrated.  It's that simple. Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” SHOW ME ON THE BASES OF THIS SCRIPTURES THAT ISRAEL OR JERUSALEM HIS OF ANY IMPORTANCE FOR GOD OR IN GODS PLAN

Terra.

You have put all those scriptures in one mixed salad bowl.
With no idea how to devide them.
This shows that you also are lost.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,16:11)

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,10:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,15:08) Quote j42 Quote Rev 20:6   ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years are those not the 144k No Pierre, The 144,000 are just the first ones resurrected.  The FIRSTFRUITS.  If they are the first, then there are others to follow.     The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God   They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days.  They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes. There are others also in the first resurrection.  The ones that followed Christ, and already died, and ones also that refused the mark of the beast last minute, and were killed, or imprisoned.  All these will take part in the first resurrection also, for they have had their robes washed white. J42 Quote The 144,000 are ALIVE during the Wrath of God   They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days.  They have followed the lamb wheresoever he goes. scriptures for “”They are the ones preaching the truth in the last days “”

Terra.

What a silly question:

FOR IY SAYS; THEY ARE THEM THAT FOLLOW THE LAMB WHERESOEVER HE GOES.
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ.

wakeup.

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