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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,14:30) Hi BD,
Just because you cannot align Paul with Jesus and the body of Christ only shows you do not share the Spirit and it does not give you any right to recommend men go back to Moses and the prophets.Have you?
You seem lost in the wilderness desperate to undermine any faith anywhere
Do you suppose that I am going to hell?Hi BD,
All who refuse the offer of God in the son remain under the wrath of God.[jn3]
Are you among the exceptions who find His mercy?Hi bodhitharta,
Do you know that we are all sinners?
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:We all owe a debt for our sin and Jesus paid that sin debt for everyone, including you.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.The gift of salvation is free, if you accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour.
Romans 10:9, 10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Now you believe that Jesus the Christ is a Prophet just as you believe that Muhammad is a Prophet. Therefore you know that if you were to pray to the Prophet Jesus the Christ and his Spirit were to descend upon you that now harm would come to you. So I sincerely ask you to pray to Jesus the Christ and ask him to let know if the words I have shared with you from the Bible are Gods Word.
And if you find yourself having a supernatural experience with Jesus the Christ pray something like “Dear Jesus I know that I am a sinner, and that there is a penalty for my sins. I believe that you died on the cross for my sins and rose from the dead. I ask you to forgive me of my sins and take me to heaven when I die. Amen”I guess I should proof read, that’s suppose to be “no harm” not “now harm”.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,16:26) Hi BD,
All who refuse the offer of God in the son remain under the wrath of God.[jn3]
Are you among the exceptions who find His mercy?
So is that wrath you mentioned on the Jews? Are they going to Hell?Are they among the exceptions who find His mercy?
Quote (TechJoe @ June 25 2009,18:34) Hi bodhitharta, Do you know that we are all sinners?
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:We all owe a debt for our sin and Jesus paid that sin debt for everyone, including you.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.The gift of salvation is free, if you accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour.
Romans 10:9, 10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Now you believe that Jesus the Christ is a Prophet just as you believe that Muhammad is a Prophet. Therefore you know that if you were to pray to the Prophet Jesus the Christ and his Spirit were to descend upon you that now harm would come to you. So I sincerely ask you to pray to Jesus the Christ and ask him to let know if the words I have shared with you from the Bible are Gods Word.
And if you find yourself having a supernatural experience with Jesus the Christ pray something like “Dear Jesus I know that I am a sinner, and that there is a penalty for my sins. I believe that you died on the cross for my sins and rose from the dead. I ask you to forgive me of my sins and take me to heaven when I die. Amen”
So what you are saying is the gift of salvation is free if I accept Jesus Christ as my Saviour but If I accept The Father of Jesus as my saviour I dont get the gift?Doesn't that sound ludicrous to you? Doesn't the greater bless the lessor?
Luke 1:77-78 (King James Version)
77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
God is Most Mercifu,l do you suppose that Jesus is more merciful than his Father?
(1) In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most merciful.
( سورة الفاتحة , Al-Fatiha, Chapter #1, Verse #1)God is “Most” merciful and “Most” gracious.
I already told you that the Lord you better call on better be the Most High for if you do not do the will of The Father you will not be saved even if you cast out demons in the name of Jesus and even if you do all sorts of wonders in the name of Jesus because Jesus said plainly that not everyone who calls on his name will be saved but only those who do the will of The Father
You can’t Know the fathers will for your life without Jesus Christ.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me.Quote (TechJoe @ June 26 2009,06:20) You can’t Know the fathers will for your life without Jesus Christ.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me.
Yes, Jesus did say that but every one God has sent said follow me if you want to live.Don't get me wrong following Jesus correctly will mean salvation for someone as in the Quran it says:
(2) (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)I am not telling you to not be a follower of Jesus I am telling you that if you follow Jesus correctly you would not call him a god and you would Worship God the way Jesus worshipped God which is complete submission or Islam
Hi BD,
Do not listen to Jesus only through your Islamic doctrine filter.
He is lord of all including your master.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,10:00) Hi BD,
Do not listen to Jesus only through your Islamic doctrine filter.
He is lord of all including your master.
Is he lord of all including His Father?Hi BD,
He has been given all authority [excluding authority over God which I thought you would have known].1Cor15.27
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,10:34) Hi BD,
He has been givben all authority [excluding authority over God which I thought you would have known].1Cor15.27
Then why not worship God and depend on God for salvationHi BD,
Those safe in Jesus indeed can worship God in Spirit and truth.
They can approach the one one all others must live in mortal fear of.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,10:51) Hi BD,
Those safe in Jesus indeed can worship God in Spirit and truth.
They can approach the one one all others must live in mortal fear of.
Obviously you must work out your salvation with fear and trembling do you say that you do not fear God?Hi BD,
Yes working out our salvation in the holy fear of God and in the power of the Spirit of God [zech] is the easy yoke and task assigned.hi BD,
You see the holy fear of God is a grace of the Spirit as Is 11.2 shows.
It is not the same as the desperate anxiety crippling those who risk His wrath by refusing the message.Hi bodhitharta
If you have ever read my signature line than you would that I do worship the father, I worship him through Jesus Christ. Therefore I do follower Jesus correctly. Thank you for recognizing that! But it is called Christianity!!!Quote (TechJoe @ June 26 2009,12:32) Hi bodhitharta
If you have ever read my signature line than you would that I do worship the father, I worship him through Jesus Christ. Therefore I do follower Jesus correctly. Thank you for recognizing that! But it is called Christianity!!!
Worshipping the Father is not called anything but submitting to God. Abraham was not a follower of Christ but God accepted him and called him friend.If a person be a Jew, Christian, Muslim….whatever they call themselves is meaningless unless they submit to God in Peace.
Worship God with all your heart soul and Mind and love your neighbor as yourself is the whole of the law and Jesus was not first to say that it is in the law of Moses as well, all whom God has sent has had the same message.
Hi BD,
Where is this salvation by submission to God in peace?
in your writings?Why quote Jesus if you will not accept his lordship over you?
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