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    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,12:11)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,05:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 08 2012,03:43)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 06 2012,03:54)
    Can you show me where polygamy is wrong?


    Hi BD, sure can!

    Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
    “Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away” (Deut 17:17)

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    Deut 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it:
    thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

    Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
    If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
    out of the book of life, and out of the HolyCity, and from the things which are written in this book.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    It's prudent to follow the word of God!     …but you believe you don't have to, why?

    (1Cor.7:2-4) “let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
    Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
    The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.”

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    2 Samuel 12:8

    King James Version (KJV)

    8And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

    show me where God prohibits more than one wife, here He is saying he would have given the king even more wives then he already had


    I have showed you   …but you somehow believe that you don't have to follow “The Word” of God?    …this is A BIG MISTAKE on your part, BD?
                         
                            Jesus remediated the Covenant of GOD! (Matt.6:28)

    “let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
     Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also
     the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body,
     but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power
     of his own body, but the wife.” (1Corinthians 7:2-4)


    “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)

                            This is about 'al-Lah': the spirit of antichrist…

    Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
    (3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
    honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
    and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
    strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:     …'al-Lah' is this strange god!


    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    Paul's opinions are not God's prohibition he also said you shouldn't marry.

    1 Corinthians 7:8-10

    King James Version (KJV)

    8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

    If they had listened to Paul there would be no Christians at all today

    #290999
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,13:26)
    ED

    Paul's opinions are not God's prohibition he also said you shouldn't marry.

    1 Corinthians 7:8-10

    King James Version (KJV)

    8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

    If they had listened to Paul there would be no Christians at all today


    Hi BD,  

    Are YOU being a deceptive muslim again
    following the 'wrong god'(al-Lah) of
    the false prophet(Muhammad)?


                     Here is what Jesus, the “Only Begotten Son of GOD” said:

    But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
    For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some
    eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs
    (like the Apostle Paul) for the kingdom of heaven's sake
    . He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matt 19:11-12)
    Apparently 'YOU' are still NOT able to receive the sayings of Jesus Christ, right BD? (see Hebrews 1:1-7 and Hebrews 12:1-4)


    (1 John 2:22)

    He is antichrist, that denieth  the Father (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) and  the Son (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă).”


    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #291138
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,15:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,13:26)
    ED

    Paul's opinions are not God's prohibition he also said you shouldn't marry.

    1 Corinthians 7:8-10

    King James Version (KJV)

    8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

    If they had listened to Paul there would be no Christians at all today


    Hi BD,  

    Are YOU being a deceptive muslim again
    following the 'wrong god'(al-Lah) of
    the false prophet(Muhammad)?


                     Here is what Jesus, the “Only Begotten Son of GOD” said:

    But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
    For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some
    eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs
    (like the Apostle Paul) for the kingdom of heaven's sake
    . He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matt 19:11-12)
    Apparently 'YOU' are still NOT able to receive the sayings of Jesus Christ, right BD? (see Hebrews 1:1-7 and Hebrews 12:1-4)


    (1 John 2:22)

    He is antichrist, that denieth  the Father (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) and  the Son (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă).”


    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Ed

    I didn't say that people couldn't or shouldn't be as Paul did I?

    King James Version (KJV)

    8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

    I said if the unmarried people followed Paul and abided as he did there would not be Christians today. He considered there need for marriage a weakness and that is not what Jesus said. Paul actually suggested that they follow his lead. Are you a eunich ED?

    #291197
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    I don't post personal information, sorry.
    For the sake of your question and the topic,
    I should ask: do YOU have more than one wife?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #291231
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,08:20)
    Hi BD,

    I don't post personal information, sorry.
    For the sake of your question and the topic,
    I should ask: do YOU have more than one wife?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    So you are a private witness of God? If you were someone mentioned in the bible it would say ” “ED” was all we knew he didn't share his info but he claimed a lot”

    #291272
    Ed J
    Participant

    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)

    #291371
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck

    #291464
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,08:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck


    Hi BD,

    Perhaps you are beginning to believe “The Bible”(63)
    really is the word of “YHVH”(63)?    …if so, I have done my Job!

    I (עד Ed) will make thy name (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in all
    generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. (Ps.45:17)

    B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #291465
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Are you on your first marriage?    …or have there been others before or since?
    I only ask because you believe the 'false prophet' (Muhammad) over the words of “The Christ” (Jesus of Nazareth).

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #291583
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,14:50)
    Hi BD,

    Are you on your first marriage?    …or have there been others before or since?
    I only ask because you believe the 'false prophet' (Muhammad) over the words of “The Christ” (Jesus of Nazareth).

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    If you want to even address me any longer you are going to have to stop using the words “False prophet” referring to Muhammad it's not only wrong it's rude and since you have no proof it is evil and bearing false witness

    #291586
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,14:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,08:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck


    Hi BD,

    Perhaps you are beginning to believe “The Bible”(63)
    really is the word of “YHVH”(63)?    …if so, I have done my Job!

    I (עד Ed) will make thy name (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in all
    generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. (Ps.45:17)

    B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    I have believed in the Bible for about 40 years and there's nothing you can tell me that's in it that I haven't already known about I have every single page of the bible from front to back, have you? I have also read the dead sea scrolls the apocraphyl books, lost books…etc that's why it is so easy for me to know when someone doesn't quite know what they are talking about.

    You are not making the name of God to be remembered except to have people remember that the way you use it and spell it is incorrect at least you could do is spell and pronounce it as a Jew would.

    #291656
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2012,04:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,14:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,08:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck


    Hi BD,

    Perhaps you are beginning to believe “The Bible”(63)
    really is the word of “YHVH”(63)?    …if so, I have done my Job!

    I (עד Ed) will make thy name (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in all
    generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. (Ps.45:17)

    B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    I have believed in the Bible for about 40 years and there's nothing you can tell me that's in it that I haven't already known about I have every single page of the bible from front to back, have you? I have also read the dead sea scrolls the apocraphyl books, lost books…etc that's why it is so easy for me to know when someone doesn't quite know what they are talking about.

    You are not making the name of God to be remembered except to have people remember that the way you use it and spell it is incorrect at least you could do is spell and pronounce it as a Jew would.


    Psalms 36:1-4 The transgression of the wicked
    saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
    For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
    The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
    He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.

    #291672
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 12 2012,09:01)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2012,04:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,14:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,08:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck


    Hi BD,

    Perhaps you are beginning to believe “The Bible”(63)
    really is the word of “YHVH”(63)?    …if so, I have done my Job!

    I (עד Ed) will make thy name (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in all
    generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. (Ps.45:17)

    B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    I have believed in the Bible for about 40 years and there's nothing you can tell me that's in it that I haven't already known about I have every single page of the bible from front to back, have you? I have also read the dead sea scrolls the apocraphyl books, lost books…etc that's why it is so easy for me to know when someone doesn't quite know what they are talking about.

    You are not making the name of God to be remembered except to have people remember that the way you use it and spell it is incorrect at least you could do is spell and pronounce it as a Jew would.


    Psalms 36:1-4 The transgression of the wicked
    saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
    For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
    The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
    He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.


    Ed

    I do fear God and hate and shun evil that's why I stay vigilant answering you on this forum because for 2 1/2 years you have been trying to slaughter the sheep

    #291710
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2012,10:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 12 2012,09:01)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2012,04:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,14:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,08:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck


    Hi BD,

    Perhaps you are beginning to believe “The Bible”(63)
    really is the word of “YHVH”(63)?    …if so, I have done my Job!

    I (עד Ed) will make thy name (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in all
    generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. (Ps.45:17)

    B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    I have believed in the Bible for about 40 years and there's nothing you can tell me that's in it that I haven't already known about I have every single page of the bible from front to back, have you? I have also read the dead sea scrolls the apocraphyl books, lost books…etc that's why it is so easy for me to know when someone doesn't quite know what they are talking about.

    You are not making the name of God to be remembered except to have people remember that the way you use it and spell it is incorrect at least you could do is spell and pronounce it as a Jew would.


    Psalms 36:1-4 The transgression of the wicked
    saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
    For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
    The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
    He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.


    Ed

    I do fear God and hate and shun evil that's why I stay vigilant answering you on this forum because for 2 1/2 years you have been trying to slaughter the sheep


    No, rather,

    I've been trying to convert the goats to God's sheep. (see Matthew 25:31-43)
    Luke 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

    Häl-läl  Ĕl-äh-hä
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #317421
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2012,10:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 12 2012,09:01)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2012,04:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,14:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,08:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,14:34)
    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar Ed:
    for Ed shall be a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”. (Josh 22:34)


    Well he sure will testify that YHVH is GOD even if it really is YHWH. He didn't say he would be an accurate witness but what the heck


    Hi BD,

    Perhaps you are beginning to believe “The Bible”(63)
    really is the word of “YHVH”(63)?    …if so, I have done my Job!

    I (עד Ed) will make thy name (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) to be remembered in all
    generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. (Ps.45:17)

    B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    I have believed in the Bible for about 40 years and there's nothing you can tell me that's in it that I haven't already known about I have every single page of the bible from front to back, have you? I have also read the dead sea scrolls the apocraphyl books, lost books…etc that's why it is so easy for me to know when someone doesn't quite know what they are talking about.

    You are not making the name of God to be remembered except to have people remember that the way you use it and spell it is incorrect at least you could do is spell and pronounce it as a Jew would.


    Psalms 36:1-4 The transgression of the wicked
    saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
    For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
    The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
    He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.


    Ed

    I do fear God and hate and shun evil that's why I stay vigilant answering you on this forum because for 2 1/2 years you have been trying to slaughter the sheep


    B.tharta.

    If you really fear God, why is it that you blatantly deny his SON and HIS sacrifice?

    Why dont you follow his commandment that says: YOU HAVE TO EAT MY FLESH; spiritually speaking ;his flesh is the word of God. And the holy bible is THE WORD OF GOD.

    Why do you deny, that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

    Satan believes in God also,and he is trembling.

    So where do you stand?

    wakeup.

    #319130
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2012,23:05)
    B.tharta.

    If you really fear God, why is it that you blatantly deny his SON and HIS sacrifice?

    Why dont you follow his commandment that says: YOU HAVE TO EAT MY FLESH; spiritually speaking ;his flesh is the word of God. And the holy bible is THE WORD OF GOD.

    Why do you deny, that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

    Satan believes in God also,and he is trembling.

    So where do you stand?

    wakeup.


    I have never said that Jesus is not Christ or that he doesn't mediate what I have said is that the bible shows clearly that Jesus was not here as a sacrifice otherwise Jesus would have not said he was being BETRAYED and that they wanted to KILL him,There is no general theme in the gospels that he came to DIE he said clearly he came to call sinners to repentence.

    If your mission is to be sacrificed you don't cry in the Garden for God to “take this cup” you don't proclaim your innocence to your excecutor so when trying to understand what happened you see that those who loved and followed him

    they felt it was a great Sacrifice so that's how they preached it.

    As far as Jesus being the ONLY mediator why do you think it has to be only one mediator or any mediator at all for that matter?

    None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious.
    ( سورة مريم , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #87)

    On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.
    ( سورة طه , Taha, Chapter #20, Verse #109)

    Say: “To Allah belongs exclusively (the right to grant) intercession: to Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: In the End, it is to Him that ye shall be brought back.”
    ( سورة الزمر , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #44)

    #319259
    terraricca
    Participant

    bod

    Quote
    I have never said that Jesus is not Christ or that he doesn't mediate what I have said is that the bible shows clearly that Jesus was not here as a sacrifice otherwise Jesus would have not said he was being BETRAYED and that they wanted to KILL him,There is no general theme in the gospels that he came to DIE he said clearly he came to call sinners to repentence.

    to much koran and so little understanding of Goddly truth

    #319386
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 07 2012,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2012,23:05)
    B.tharta.

    If you really fear God, why is it that you blatantly deny his SON and HIS sacrifice?

    Why dont you follow his commandment that says: YOU HAVE TO EAT MY FLESH; spiritually speaking ;his flesh is the word of God. And the holy bible is THE WORD OF GOD.

    Why do you deny, that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

    Satan believes in God also,and he is trembling.

    So where do you stand?

    wakeup.


    I have never said that Jesus is not Christ or that he doesn't mediate what I have said is that the bible shows clearly that Jesus was not here as a sacrifice otherwise Jesus would have not said he was being BETRAYED and that they wanted to KILL him,There is no general theme in the gospels that he came to DIE he said clearly he came to call sinners to repentence.

    If your mission is to be sacrificed you don't cry in the Garden for God to “take this cup” you don't proclaim your innocence to your excecutor so when trying to understand what happened you see that those who loved and followed him

    they felt it was a great Sacrifice so that's how they preached it.

    As far as Jesus being the ONLY mediator why do you think it has to be only one mediator or any mediator at all for that matter?

    None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious.
    (  سورة مريم  , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #87)

    On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.
    (  سورة طه  , Taha, Chapter #20, Verse #109)

    Say: “To Allah belongs exclusively (the right to grant) intercession: to Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: In the End, it is to Him that ye shall be brought back.”
    (  سورة الزمر  , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #44)


    B,tharta.

    It is clear and simple,and it does make sense.Total sense.
    If there was no sacrifice and resurrection; then our faith is in vain,lets just be merry and do as much as possible in this life,for there is no other one to come.

    The Jews were given a tradition of sacrificing for sins,this is just a forerunner of the real sacrifice to come ,which is Christs sacrifice.

    You have rejected most of the Holy bible; but say I am all for christ.

    You praise mohamad daily in your prayers,not Jesus; and you say Jesus is my main focus?????

    You bow down facing mecca in prayer,not Jerusalem,and you say jerusalem is the holy city.

    You say Jesus is the spirit from God, but then you say he is a prophet,he is not the son of God.

    You believe that the angels were created spirit, but then you say Jesus the creator of all; is made of flesh and bone.

    You are on the road to nowhere.

    wakeup.

    #319473
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 09 2012,22:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 07 2012,23:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2012,23:05)
    B.tharta.

    If you really fear God, why is it that you blatantly deny his SON and HIS sacrifice?

    Why dont you follow his commandment that says: YOU HAVE TO EAT MY FLESH; spiritually speaking ;his flesh is the word of God. And the holy bible is THE WORD OF GOD.

    Why do you deny, that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

    Satan believes in God also,and he is trembling.

    So where do you stand?

    wakeup.


    I have never said that Jesus is not Christ or that he doesn't mediate what I have said is that the bible shows clearly that Jesus was not here as a sacrifice otherwise Jesus would have not said he was being BETRAYED and that they wanted to KILL him,There is no general theme in the gospels that he came to DIE he said clearly he came to call sinners to repentence.

    If your mission is to be sacrificed you don't cry in the Garden for God to “take this cup” you don't proclaim your innocence to your excecutor so when trying to understand what happened you see that those who loved and followed him

    they felt it was a great Sacrifice so that's how they preached it.

    As far as Jesus being the ONLY mediator why do you think it has to be only one mediator or any mediator at all for that matter?

    None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious.
    (  سورة مريم  , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #87)

    On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.
    (  سورة طه  , Taha, Chapter #20, Verse #109)

    Say: “To Allah belongs exclusively (the right to grant) intercession: to Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: In the End, it is to Him that ye shall be brought back.”
    (  سورة الزمر  , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #44)


    B,tharta.

    It is clear and simple,and it does make sense.Total sense.
    If there was no sacrifice and resurrection; then our faith is in vain,lets just be merry and do as much as possible in this life,for there is no other one to come.

    The Jews were given a tradition of sacrificing for sins,this is just a forerunner of the real sacrifice to come ,which is Christs sacrifice.

    You have rejected most of the Holy bible; but say I am all for christ.

    You praise mohamad daily in your prayers,not Jesus; and you say Jesus is my main focus?????

    You bow down facing mecca in prayer,not Jerusalem,and you say jerusalem is the holy city.

    You say Jesus is the spirit from God, but then you say he is a prophet,he is not the son of God.

    You believe that the angels were created spirit, but then you say Jesus the creator of all; is made of flesh and bone.

    You are on the road to nowhere.

    wakeup.


    Where do you get this stuff from?

    I have not rejected anything I have simply placed everything in context(something you have refused to do). I don't praise Muhammad at all. ALL PRAISE IS DUE TO ALLAH.

    The fools among the people (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews) will say, “What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah [prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)] to which they used to face in prayer.” Say, (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) “To Allah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to the Straight Way.”
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #142)

    Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad's صلى الله عليه وسلم) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Makkah). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction. Certainly, the people who were given the Scripture (i.e. Jews and the Christians) know well that, that (your turning towards the direction of the Ka'bah at Makkah in prayers) is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #144)

    (4) And even if you were to bring to the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) all the Ayat (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), they would not follow your Qiblah (prayer direction), nor are you going to follow their Qiblah (prayer direction). And they will not follow each other's Qiblah (prayer direction). Verily, if you follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed you will be one of the Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers).
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #145)

    in regards to Jesus I specifially said that Jesus was a spirit that proceeded from God. If you deny he was flesh and bone then you disagree with what he said.

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    Wakeup
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    B,tharta.

    1. What would they do to you ;if you go to the mosque carrying a qur'an and a bible?

    2. What would they do to you if you are in hospital receiving some one els's blood?

    wakeup.

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