The faith of jesus

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There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40)

There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter

Colter.

SO THEY SAY.
THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS.
AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:52)

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40) There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter Colter. SO THEY SAY. THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS. AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE. wakeup.

The Book of Revelation appeared long after Jesus left, I wonder if you would have rejected that book then like you do other books now?

I've never said Jesus wasn't the Christ, that's what the anti-Christ would say. You are really confused.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,11:02)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:52) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40) There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter Colter. SO THEY SAY. THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS. AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE. wakeup. The Book of Revelation appeared long after Jesus left, I wonder if you would have rejected that book then like you do other books now? I've never said Jesus wasn't the Christ, that's what the anti-Christ would say. You are really confused. Colter

Colter.

Antichrists pretend to teach Christ,but also twist his teachings with great and colourful words.There are many of them.

Your Jesus was not crucified.
Your Jesus did not conquered death at the cross.
Your jesus has not beaten satan on the cross.
Your Jesus was not tempted by the devil in the desert.
Your jesus is a fraud.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,12:07)

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,11:02) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:52) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40) There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter Colter. SO THEY SAY. THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS. AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE. wakeup. The Book of Revelation appeared long after Jesus left, I wonder if you would have rejected that book then like you do other books now? I've never said Jesus wasn't the Christ, that's what the anti-Christ would say. You are really confused. Colter Colter. Antichrists pretend to teach Christ,but also twist his teachings with great and colourful words.There are many of them. Your Jesus was not crucified. Your Jesus did not conquered death at the cross. Your jesus has not beaten satan on the cross. Your Jesus was not tempted by the devil in the desert. Your jesus is a fraud. wakeup.

You are lying again.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:44)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,12:07) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,11:02) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:52) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40) There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter Colter. SO THEY SAY. THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS. AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE. wakeup. The Book of Revelation appeared long after Jesus left, I wonder if you would have rejected that book then like you do other books now? I've never said Jesus wasn't the Christ, that's what the anti-Christ would say. You are really confused. Colter Colter. Antichrists pretend to teach Christ,but also twist his teachings with great and colourful words.There are many of them. Your Jesus was not crucified. Your Jesus did not conquered death at the cross. Your jesus has not beaten satan on the cross. Your Jesus was not tempted by the devil in the desert. Your jesus is a fraud. wakeup. You are lying again. Colter

cOLTER.

YOU HAVE PRESENTED YOURSELF THAT WAY.
You worship an uncrucified jesus.
That alone tells us that you dont worship the Jesus of the bible.
Therefore he must be some other man also named jesus.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:06)

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:44) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,12:07) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,11:02) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:52) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40) There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter Colter. SO THEY SAY. THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS. AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE. wakeup. The Book of Revelation appeared long after Jesus left, I wonder if you would have rejected that book then like you do other books now? I've never said Jesus wasn't the Christ, that's what the anti-Christ would say. You are really confused. Colter Colter. Antichrists pretend to teach Christ,but also twist his teachings with great and colourful words.There are many of them. Your Jesus was not crucified. Your Jesus did not conquered death at the cross. Your jesus has not beaten satan on the cross. Your Jesus was not tempted by the devil in the desert. Your jesus is a fraud. wakeup. You are lying again. Colter cOLTER. YOU HAVE PRESENTED YOURSELF THAT WAY. You worship an uncrucified jesus. That alone tells us that you dont worship the Jesus of the bible. Therefore he must be some other man also named jesus. wakeup.

It is you that has an evil spirit, you are a liar. I never said Jesus wasn't crucified, I have repeatedly told you this, you are lying again, it's a pattern with you.

I said the crucifixion wasn't a sacrifice; it was a shared human experience for the Son. Jesus loves us that much, to submit to the worst kind of death and do it superbly.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,23:21)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,15:06) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,12:44) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,12:07) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,11:02) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,10:52) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,04:40) There was a revelation to John on Patmos but it did not survive intact, it's been edited and corrupted by the apocalyptic writers. Colter Colter. SO THEY SAY. THEY ARE THE GOD HATERS,THE DEBUNKERS OF THE TRUTH. THE ANTICHRISTS. AND YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE. wakeup. The Book of Revelation appeared long after Jesus left, I wonder if you would have rejected that book then like you do other books now? I've never said Jesus wasn't the Christ, that's what the anti-Christ would say. You are really confused. Colter Colter. Antichrists pretend to teach Christ,but also twist his teachings with great and colourful words.There are many of them. Your Jesus was not crucified. Your Jesus did not conquered death at the cross. Your jesus has not beaten satan on the cross. Your Jesus was not tempted by the devil in the desert. Your jesus is a fraud. wakeup. You are lying again. Colter cOLTER. YOU HAVE PRESENTED YOURSELF THAT WAY. You worship an uncrucified jesus. That alone tells us that you dont worship the Jesus of the bible. Therefore he must be some other man also named jesus. wakeup. It is you that has an evil spirit, you are a liar. I never said Jesus wasn't crucified, I have repeatedly told you this, you are lying again, it's a pattern with you. I said the crucifixion wasn't a sacrifice; it was a shared human experience for the Son. Jesus loves us that much, to submit to the worst kind of death and do it superbly. Colter

Colter.

Can you not see that it makes no difference,
wether you believe that he is hanged by the jews.
The fact remains that You dont believe that his death is a gift from God to us,to bear all the sins of the world.

You have strongly **rejected** that gift.
You have returned it to sender.

wakeup.

[Spock]

It's because your atonement doctrine if foreign to the gospel of Jesus but you have such a heavy investment of pride that you cannot admit it.

Spiritually lazy Pagans need human sacrifice.

I have repented and been forgiven.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,00:41)

It's because your atonement doctrine if foreign to the gospel of Jesus but you have such a heavy investment of pride that you cannot admit it. Spiritually lazy Pagans need human sacrifice. I have repented and been forgiven. Colter

Colter.

To reject the gift of God is the ultimate of sin.
You have put God asside for some other God.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And you are anti what God has said,and brushed it away as crap.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:52)

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,00:41) It's because your atonement doctrine if foreign to the gospel of Jesus but you have such a heavy investment of pride that you cannot admit it. Spiritually lazy Pagans need human sacrifice. I have repented and been forgiven. Colter Colter. To reject the gift of God is the ultimate of sin. You have put God asside for some other God. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And you are anti what God has said,and brushed it away as crap. wakeup.

I haven't rejected the gift of God, I reject the remixed Pagan version of it.

You are so frustrated that you BS cannot control.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:57)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:52) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,00:41) It's because your atonement doctrine if foreign to the gospel of Jesus but you have such a heavy investment of pride that you cannot admit it. Spiritually lazy Pagans need human sacrifice. I have repented and been forgiven. Colter Colter. To reject the gift of God is the ultimate of sin. You have put God asside for some other God. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And you are anti what God has said,and brushed it away as crap. wakeup. I haven't rejected the gift of God, I reject the remixed Pagan version of it. You are so frustrated that you BS cannot control.   Colter

Colter.

Do you accept now that Christ died for us?
For that is the greatest gift to us.
For God loved us first.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Not as a sacrifice, no.

Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no

Not to atone for mans sins, no.

As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes.

As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,02:57)

Not as a sacrifice, no. Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no Not to atone for mans sins, no. As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes. As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes

Colter.

Then what was the sacrifice for?

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,03:02)

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,02:57) Not as a sacrifice, no. Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no Not to atone for mans sins, no. As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes. As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes Colter. Then what was the sacrifice for? wakeup.

There was no sacrifice, God was already forgiving. The Pagans added their interpretation to their remixed religion about Jesus the Christ, “Christianity.”

Jesus said the cross was to prove his authority to teach:

18 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”

19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,03:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,03:02) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,02:57) Not as a sacrifice, no. Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no Not to atone for mans sins, no. As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes. As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes Colter. Then what was the sacrifice for? wakeup. There was no sacrifice, God was already forgiving. The Pagans added their interpretation to their remixed religion about Jesus the Christ, “Christianity.” Jesus said the cross was to prove his authority to teach: 18 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” 19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” Colter

Colter.

If there was no sacrifice;there also is no forgiveness of sins.
No one can labour hard enough with his own strenght
to achieve anything to get to heaven.
WE NEED HIS MERCY.

''I WILL GIVE MERCY TO WHOM I WILL GIVE MERCY''
Those are Gods words.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,12:08)

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,03:14) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,03:02) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,02:57) Not as a sacrifice, no. Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no Not to atone for mans sins, no. As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes. As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes Colter. Then what was the sacrifice for? wakeup. There was no sacrifice, God was already forgiving. The Pagans added their interpretation to their remixed religion about Jesus the Christ, “Christianity.” Jesus said the cross was to prove his authority to teach: 18 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” 19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” Colter Colter. If there was no sacrifice;there also is no forgiveness of sins. No one can labour hard enough with his own strenght to achieve anything to get to heaven. WE NEED HIS MERCY. ''I WILL GIVE MERCY TO WHOM I WILL GIVE MERCY'' Those are Gods words. wakeup.

God is changeless, he has always extended mercy, loving kindness and forgiveness to his erring children because he is just that kind of god.

We are all Sons of God, salvation is a natural part of being in the family of God. If you have a relationship with the Father then you will awake from the sleep of death.

Forget about yourself and serve others.

Colte

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:19)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,12:08) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,03:14) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,03:02) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,02:57) Not as a sacrifice, no. Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no Not to atone for mans sins, no. As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes. As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes Colter. Then what was the sacrifice for? wakeup. There was no sacrifice, God was already forgiving. The Pagans added their interpretation to their remixed religion about Jesus the Christ, “Christianity.” Jesus said the cross was to prove his authority to teach: 18 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” 19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” Colter Colter. If there was no sacrifice;there also is no forgiveness of sins. No one can labour hard enough with his own strenght to achieve anything to get to heaven. WE NEED HIS MERCY. ''I WILL GIVE MERCY TO WHOM I WILL GIVE MERCY'' Those are Gods words. wakeup. God is changeless, he has always extended mercy, loving kindness and forgiveness to his erring children because he is just that kind of god. We are all Sons of God, salvation is a natural part of being in the family of God. If you have a relationship with the Father then you will awake from the sleep of death. Forget about yourself and serve others. Colte

Colter.

You know the nature of humans.

With a god like you have described,
man will soon take things for granted,
and start abusing his kindness, for self gain.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,02:57)

Not as a sacrifice, no. Not as a requirement for Gods forgiveness, no Not to atone for mans sins, no. As a personal experience, on our behalf, yes. As a requirement for becoming sovereign Lord of his own co-created world, yes

See Wakeup,

Colter answers yes/no questions with “BOTH” answers, just like YOU do!

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,11:15)

Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey. If the eye dont want to see,it can not see. Long time no see,how are you doing? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Jesus said: “Except a man be born again, he cannot see  the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) Have you been “Born Again”?    (<– please answer) God bless Ed J Edj. STILL REFUSING TO SEE? 1. Born as of the rewing of the mind. YES. 2.Born as physically. NO. wakeup.

Hi Colter,

“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
 measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”  (Matt 7:2)  
(The Bible is authoritative, and this verse applies to you as well!)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

And see Colter, Wakeup tries to answer where I might be going too – INSTEAD OF ANSWERING “THE QUESTION” THAT I ASK.

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:58)

Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey. If the eye dont want to see,it can not see. Long time no see,how are you doing? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Jesus said: “Except a man be born again, he cannot see  the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) Have you been “Born Again”?    (<– please answer) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj. Not the way you see it. I have been a naughty boy,but I have turned 180degrees. Now I am seen as boring to my fam. but I understand that when you have come out of babylon,you are not of babylon. And therefore you become a stranger to babylon. The world loves its own. Jesus said: you will be hated,because they hated me; you will be persecuted,because they have persecuted me. No one is considered born again after babtism. Although many love to believe that,because its so easy. Just have a swim; and you are a new person. Sorry to say, but this is not so. Just to have a renewing of the mind takes time and sacrifice. Babylon is full of temptations; one must be dedicated to refuse any temptations. Sometimes the flesh can be stronger that the spirit. The flesh will always say; just one more time. That is when satan will rub his hands together. To be born again physically,is when you are resurrected out of Zions womb. Then you will be physically spirit. For Zion she is spirit. wakeup.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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