The faith of jesus

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Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26)

Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter

Colter.

It is not a matter of improving the old.
The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus.
Prophesies are of the future.
The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled.
The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled.

THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY.
IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:09)

Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26) Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. It is not a matter of improving the old. The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus. Prophesies are of the future. The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled. The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY. IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART. wakeup.

You are dishonest so I don't expect you to see it.

Jesus revelead the true Father.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,00:51)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:09) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26) Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. It is not a matter of improving the old. The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus. Prophesies are of the future. The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled. The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY. IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART. wakeup. You are dishonest so I don't expect you to see it. Jesus revelead the true Father. Colter

Colter.

Which jesus are you referring to?
It will be your own made up jesus.
Because the true Jesus you have blatantly rejected.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,02:34)

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,00:51) Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:09) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26) Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. It is not a matter of improving the old. The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus. Prophesies are of the future. The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled. The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY. IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART. wakeup. You are dishonest so I don't expect you to see it. Jesus revelead the true Father. Colter Colter. Which jesus are you referring to? It will be your own made up jesus. Because the true Jesus you have blatantly rejected. wakeup.

Their is only one Jesus…..and then their are men who writie about him.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,04:25)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,02:34) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,00:51) Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:09) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26) Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. It is not a matter of improving the old. The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus. Prophesies are of the future. The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled. The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY. IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART. wakeup. You are dishonest so I don't expect you to see it. Jesus revelead the true Father. Colter Colter. Which jesus are you referring to? It will be your own made up jesus. Because the true Jesus you have blatantly rejected. wakeup. Their is only one Jesus…..and then their are men who writie about him. Colter

Colter.

How do you find Jesus,if not through the Holy bible?
Is everyone to find him by their own way?
This will only cause confusion.
There is only the one way;the narrow way.
The Holy bible is not written for nothing.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,09:15)

Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,02:34) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,00:51) Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:09) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26) Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. It is not a matter of improving the old. The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus. Prophesies are of the future. The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled. The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY. IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART. wakeup. You are dishonest so I don't expect you to see it. Jesus revelead the true Father. Colter Colter. Which jesus are you referring to? It will be your own made up jesus. Because the true Jesus you have blatantly rejected. wakeup. Their is only one Jesus…..and then their are men who writie about him. Colter Colter. How do you find Jesus,if not through the Holy bible? Is everyone to find him by their own way? This will only cause confusion. There is only the one way;the narrow way. The Holy bible is not written for nothing. wakeup.

Confusion? The Bible has already caused lots of confusion, NONE of you who believe the Bible to be the word of God can even agree on what it says. There are 35,000 sect divisions of Christiandom, and each one says “we are right and you are wrong!”

The Further Evolution of Religion

(1012.2) 92:7.1 Religion can never become a scientific fact. Philosophy may, indeed, rest on a scientific basis, but religion will ever remain either evolutionary or revelatory, or a possible combination of both, as it is in the world today.

(1012.3) 92:7.2 New religions cannot be invented; they are either evolved, or else they are suddenly revealed. All new evolutionary religions are merely advancing expressions of the old beliefs, new adaptations and adjustments. The old does not cease to exist; it is merged with the new, even as Sikhism budded and blossomed out of the soil and forms of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, and other contemporary cults. Primitive religion was very democratic; the savage was quick to borrow or lend. Only with revealed religion did autocratic and intolerant theologic egotism appear.

(1012.4) 92:7.3 The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith. There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth. Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbors’ living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.

(1012.5) 92:7.4 All these religions have arisen as a result of man’s variable intellectual response to his identical spiritual leading. They can never hope to attain a uniformity of creeds, dogmas, and rituals — these are intellectual; but they can, and some day will, realize a unity in true worship of the Father of all, for this is spiritual, and it is forever true, in the spirit all men are equal.

(1012.6) 92:7.5 Primitive religion was largely a material-value consciousness, but civilization elevates religious values, for true religion is the devotion of the self to the service of meaningful and supreme values. As religion evolves, ethics becomes the philosophy of morals, and morality becomes the discipline of self by the standards of highest meanings and supreme values — divine and spiritual ideals. And thus religion becomes a spontaneous and exquisite devotion, the living experience of the loyalty of love.

(1013.1) 92:7.6 The quality of a religion is indicated by:

   (1013.2) 92:7.7 1. Level of values — loyalties.*

   (1013.3) 92:7.8 2. Depth of meanings — the sensitization of the individual to the idealistic appreciation of these highest values.

   (1013.4) 92:7.9 3. Consecration intensity — the degree of devotion to these divine values.

   (1013.5) 92:7.10 4. The unfettered progress of the personality in this cosmic path of idealistic spiritual living, realization of sonship with God and never-ending progressive citizenship in the universe.

(1013.6) 92:7.11 Religious meanings progress in self-consciousness when the child transfers his ideas of omnipotence from his parents to God. And the entire religious experience of such a child is largely dependent on whether fear or love has dominated the parent-child relationship. Slaves have always experienced great difficulty in transferring their master-fear into concepts of God-love. Civilization, science, and advanced religions must deliver mankind from those fears born of the dread of natural phenomena. And so should greater enlightenment deliver educated mortals from all dependence on intermediaries in communion with Deity.

(1013.7) 92:7.12 These intermediate stages of idolatrous hesitation in the transfer of veneration from the human and the visible to the divine and invisible are inevitable, but they should be shortened by the consciousness of the facilitating ministry of the indwelling divine spirit. Nevertheless, man has been profoundly influenced, not only by his concepts of Deity, but also by the character of the heroes whom he has chosen to honor. It is most unfortunate that those who have come to venerate the divine and risen Christ should have overlooked the man — the valiant and courageous hero — Joshua ben Joseph.

(1013.8) 92:7.
13 Modern man is adequately self-conscious of religion, but his worshipful customs are confused and discredited by his accelerated social metamorphosis and unprecedented scientific developments. Thinking men and women want religion redefined, and this demand will compel religion to re-evaluate itself.

(1013.9) 92:7.14 Modern man is confronted with the task of making more readjustments of human values in one generation than have been made in two thousand years. And this all influences the social attitude toward religion, for religion is a way of living as well as a technique of thinking.

(1013.10) 92:7.15 True religion must ever be, at one and the same time, the eternal foundation and the guiding star of all enduring civilizations.

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Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,03:36)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,09:15) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,02:34) Quote (Colter @ May 21 2013,00:51) Quote (Wakeup @ May 21 2013,00:09) Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,21:26) Quote Colter. The old testament is not inferior to the new testament. They both complement each other. We have two witnesses;the old and the new,in harmony. The old is about Jesus;and the new fulfilled; what was spoken about Jesus. wakeup. The concepts of God improves from the Old to the New Testament. The facts of Jesus' life disprove the dim view of God in the OT and the Jewish concepts of a material Messiah. Jesus simply did not do what the Messiah was expected to do, because he wasn't the Jewish Messiah. Colter Colter. It is not a matter of improving the old. The old prophesies about Jesus is fulfilled in jesus. Prophesies are of the future. The prophesies about jesus first comind is fulfilled. The prophesies of the second coming is to be fulfilled. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW;THEY WORK IN HARMONY. IF YOU FIND ANY CONTRADICTIONS;THEN IT IS ON YOUR PART. wakeup. You are dishonest so I don't expect you to see it. Jesus revelead the true Father. Colter Colter. Which jesus are you referring to? It will be your own made up jesus. Because the true Jesus you have blatantly rejected. wakeup. Their is only one Jesus…..and then their are men who writie about him. Colter Colter. How do you find Jesus,if not through the Holy bible? Is everyone to find him by their own way? This will only cause confusion. There is only the one way;the narrow way. The Holy bible is not written for nothing. wakeup. Confusion? The Bible has already caused lots of confusion, NONE of you who believe the Bible to be the word of God can even agree on what it says. There are 35,000 sect divisions of Christiandom, and each one says “we are right and you are wrong!” The Further Evolution of Religion (1012.2) 92:7.1 Religion can never become a scientific fact. Philosophy may, indeed, rest on a scientific basis, but religion will ever remain either evolutionary or revelatory, or a possible combination of both, as it is in the world today. (1012.3) 92:7.2 New religions cannot be invented; they are either evolved, or else they are suddenly revealed. All new evolutionary religions are merely advancing expressions of the old beliefs, new adaptations and adjustments. The old does not cease to exist; it is merged with the new, even as Sikhism budded and blossomed out of the soil and forms of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, and other contemporary cults. Primitive religion was very democratic; the savage was quick to borrow or lend. Only with revealed religion did autocratic and intolerant theologic egotism appear. (1012.4) 92:7.3 The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith. There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth. Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbors’ living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals. (1012.5) 92:7.4 All these religions have arisen as a result of man’s variable intellectual response to his identical spiritual leading. They can never hope to attain a uniformity of creeds, dogmas, and rituals — these are intellectual; but they can, and some day will, realize a unity in true worship of the Father of all, for this is spiritual, and it is forever true, in the spirit all men are equal. (1012.6) 92:7.5 Primitive religion was largely a material-value consciousness, but civilization elevates religious values, for true religion is the devotion of the self to the service of meaningful and supreme values. As religion evolves, ethics becomes the philosophy of morals, and morality becomes the discipline of self by the standards of highest meanings and supreme values — divine and spiritual ideals. And thus religion becomes a spontaneous and exquisite devotion, the living experience of the loyalty of love. (1013.1) 92:7.6 The quality of a religion is indicated by:    (1013.2) 92:7.7 1. Level of values — loyalties.*    (1013.3) 92:7.8 2. Depth of meanings — the sensitization of the individual to the idealistic appreciation of these highest values.    (1013.4) 92:7.9 3. Consecration intensity — the degree of devotion to these divine values.    (1013.5) 92:7.10 4. The unfettered progress of the personality in this cosmic path of idealistic spiritual living, realization of sonship with God and never-ending progressive citizenship in the universe. (1013.6) 92:7.11 Religious meanings progress in self-consciousness when the child transfers his ideas of omnipotence from his parents to God. And the entire religious experience of such a child is largely dependent on whether fear or love has dominated the parent-child relationship. Slaves have always experienced great difficulty in transferring their master-fear into concepts of God-love. Civilization, science, and advanced religions must deliver mankind from those fears born of the dread of natural phenomena. And so should greater enlightenment deliver educated mortals from all dependence on intermediaries in communion with Deity. (1013.7) 92:7.12 These intermediate stages of idolatrous hesitation in the transfer of veneration from the human and the visible to the divine and invisible are inevitable, but they should be shortened by the consciousness of the facilitating ministry of the indwelling divine spirit. Nevertheless, man has been profoundly influenced, not only by his concepts of Deity, but also by the character of the heroes whom he has chosen to honor. It is most unfortunate that those who have come to venerate the divine and risen Christ should have overlooked the man — the valiant and courageous hero — Joshua ben Joseph. (1013.8) 92:7.13 Modern man is adequately self-conscious of religion, but his worshipful customs are confused and discredited by his accelerated social metamorphosis and unprecedented scientific developments. Thinking men and women want religion redefined, and this demand will compel religion to re-evaluate itself. (1013.9) 92:7.14 Modern man is confronted with the task of making more readjustments of human values in one generation than have been made in two thousand years. And this all influences the social attitude toward religion, for religion is a way of living as well as a technique of thinking. (1013.10) 92:7.15 True religion must ever be, at one and the same time, the eternal foundation and the guiding star of all enduring civilizations.

olter.

I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings.
And that includes your ub teachings.

I am interested in the word of God and how to follow
his sons teachings.His word is true.

God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow.

John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK
YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME.
But you have rejected the scriptures.

VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS.
You dont believe his words,because they say not to.
You are in their hands.

wakeup.

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olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup.

I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures.

You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36)

Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter

Colter.

Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in.
You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit.

Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit.
Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit.
And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues.

The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit.
Seeking the scriptures, that is.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05)

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup.

Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion.

You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit.

The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter

Colter.

Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the
angel Gabri'el.
That was satan at work.
Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit.
Many books has been written claiming to be inspired,
but they contradict the scriptures.

Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends.
He is the father of lies.
He is the god of this world system of things.
He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him.

He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning.
We must be aware of that.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:45)

Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter Colter. Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the angel Gabri'el. That was satan at work. Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit. Many books has been written claiming to be inspired, but they contradict the scriptures. Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends. He is the father of lies. He is the god of this world system of things. He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him. He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning. We must be aware of that. wakeup.

Your Faith in your fictional Satan God is as strong as ever.

The accusations you make are the same accusations that the enemies of Jesus made……hummmm

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,02:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:45) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter Colter. Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the angel Gabri'el. That was satan at work. Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit. Many books has been written claiming to be inspired, but they contradict the scriptures. Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends. He is the father of lies. He is the god of this world system of things. He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him. He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning. We must be aware of that. wakeup. Your Faith in your fictional Satan God is as strong as ever. The accusations you make are the same accusations that the enemies of Jesus made……hummmm Colter

Colter.

God is as strong as ever.

He has satan on a string, the axe is in Gods hand,and God decides when and where to swing it.
All things are in Gods hands,because he is the creator of all things; and he is in control of all his creation.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,11:54)

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,02:35) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:45) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter Colter. Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the angel Gabri'el. That was satan at work. Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit. Many books has been written claiming to be inspired, but they contradict the scriptures. Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends. He is the father of lies. He is the god of this world system of things. He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him. He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning. We must be aware of that. wakeup. Your Faith in your fictional Satan God is as strong as ever. The accusations you make are the same accusations that the enemies of Jesus made……hummmm Colter Colter. God is as strong as ever. He has satan on a string, the axe is in Gods hand,and God decides when and where to swing it. All things are in Gods hands,because he is the creator of all things; and he is in control of all his creation. wakeup.

God is not a house divided against itself, not my God anyway.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,13:16)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,11:54) Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,02:35) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:45) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter Colter. Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the angel Gabri'el. That was satan at work. Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit. Many books has been written claiming to be inspired, but they contradict the scriptures. Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends. He is the father of lies. He is the god of this world system of things. He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him. He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning. We must be aware of that. wakeup. Your Faith in your fictional Satan God is as strong as ever. The accusations you make are the same accusations that the enemies of Jesus made……hummmm Colter Colter. God is as strong as ever. He has satan on a string, the axe is in Gods hand,and God decides when and where to swing it. All things are in Gods hands,because he is the creator of all things; and he is in control of all his creation. wakeup. God is not a house divided against itself, not my God anyway. Colter

Colter.

Why did you say devided?
Gods ways are not our ways,
he work according his own will.
And his will is for the overall good.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,14:38)

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,13:16) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,11:54) Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,02:35) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:45) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter Colter. Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the angel Gabri'el. That was satan at work. Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit. Many books has been written claiming to be inspired, but they contradict the scriptures. Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends. He is the father of lies. He is the god of this world system of things. He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him. He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning. We must be aware of that. wakeup. Your Faith in your fictional Satan God is as strong as ever. The accusations you make are the same accusations that the enemies of Jesus made……hummmm Colter Colter. God is as strong as ever. He has satan on a string, the axe is in Gods hand,and God decides when and where to swing it. All things are in Gods hands,because he is the creator of all things; and he is in control of all his creation. wakeup. God is not a house divided against itself, not my God anyway. Colter Colter. Why did you say devided? Gods ways are not our ways, he work according his own will. And his will is for the overall good. wakeup.

Becuase you say God is good, is love but then he has an evil counter-will inside his Satan God that he uses to screw people over with. That is just sad, sick theory!

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,22:31)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,14:38) Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,13:16) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,11:54) Quote (Colter @ May 23 2013,02:35) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2013,00:45) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,21:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2013,14:05) Quote (Colter @ May 22 2013,12:36) Quote olter. I am not interested in religion,for they are mens teachings. And that includes your ub teachings. I am interested in the word of God and how to follow his sons teachings.His word is true. God does not evolve;he is the same yesterday; and today; and tomorrow. John 5:39.SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES,FOR IN THEM YE THINK YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: AND THEY ARE THEY WHICH TESTIFY OF ME. But you have rejected the scriptures. VERSE 47.BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS,HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS. You dont believe his words,because they say not to. You are in their hands. wakeup. I haven't rejected the scriptures, the Bible is like a flea market, some good stuff, some fakes, some outright garbage and some hidden treasures. You would be better off to have a real relationship with God rather then a relationship with a corrupted book. Colter Colter. Without the bible;how would you find out about the true God? Do you just sit under a tree and meditate? And let the force come in. You will say by the holy spirit; but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit. All preachers claim to have the Holy Spirit. Jim Jones also claims to have the Holy Spirit. Satan can mimic the Holy Spirit. And that is what he is doing all the time; and also speaking in tongues. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is when you start seeking *IN TRUTH*; Then Jesus will send the Holy Spirit. Seeking the scriptures, that is. wakeup. Jesus revealed that man can find God himself in prayer, we don't have to go through  middle man, or preachers or priest. Many people find God outside of religion. You make God into a clown, a fool, a sadistic monster by claiming that his Satan creature pretends to be the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are man made, but they can and do help lead man to a REAL relationship with God. Colter Colter. Mohamad claimed that the qur'an is inspired by the angel Gabri'el. That was satan at work. Many predictions has been made by priests,claiming to have the holy Spirit. Many books has been written claiming to be inspired, but they contradict the scriptures. Satan is also a pretend god,he always pretends. He is the father of lies. He is the god of this world system of things. He even promised Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he only worship him. He has written many books to debunk the Holy Bible,from the beginning. We must be aware of that. wakeup. Your Faith in your fictional Satan God is as strong as ever. The accusations you make are the same accusations that the enemies of Jesus made……hummmm Colter Colter. God is as strong as ever. He has satan on a string, the axe is in Gods hand,and God decides when and where to swing it. All things are in Gods hands,because he is the creator of all things; and he is in control of all his creation. wakeup. God is not a house divided against itself, not my God anyway. Colter Colter. Why did you say devided? Gods ways are not our ways, he work according his own will. And his will is for the overall good. wakeup. Becuase you say God is good, is love but then he has an evil counter-will inside his Satan God that he uses to screw people over with. That is just sad, sick theory! Colter

Colter.

God is using satan to show us evil, for us to learn and to see and to taste evil.

God is showing us good by his Son;so we can learn, see, and taste good.

This is the only way we truly can know good and evil.

wakeup

[Spock]

Freedom of Choice is enough to demonstrate evil, man is “tempted” by the presence of two paths, by his own heart, no Satan needed.

I find it so distasteful that you blaspheme God by accusing him of plotting evil acts! That it was Gods will that Satan “fool the whole world” but then act surprised!

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,02:51)

Freedom of Choice is enough to demonstrate evil, man is “tempted” by the presence of two paths, by his own heart, no Satan needed. I find it so distasteful that you blaspheme God by accusing him of plotting evil acts! That it was Gods will that Satan “fool the whole world” but then act surprised! Colter

Colter.

How would men know what is Good and what is evil?
How does men know where to draw the line between good and evil?
Can men decide what is good and evil? By his own wisdom and honest and true heart?
To some corrupt; stealing is good for own gain.
For this is life they say.

Satan has indoctrinated men how to live a prosperous life.
And men has followed him faithfully.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,10:53)

Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,02:51) Freedom of Choice is enough to demonstrate evil, man is “tempted” by the presence of two paths, by his own heart, no Satan needed. I find it so distasteful that you blaspheme God by accusing him of plotting evil acts! That it was Gods will that Satan “fool the whole world” but then act surprised! Colter Colter. How would men know what is Good and what is evil? How does men know where to draw the line between good and evil? Can men decide what is good and evil? By his own wisdom and honest and true heart? To some corrupt; stealing is good for own gain. For this is life they say. Satan has indoctrinated men how to live a prosperous life. And men has followed him faithfully. wakeup.

You may not know the difference between right and wrong but normal minded people do. And we find out what the will of God is by asking him.

Colter

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