The exodus decoded

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  • #235631
    princess
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    the exodus

    simcha jacobovici is somewhat of a different teacher then most. however i do find what he has to offer interesting.

    #235638
    Ed J
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    Hi Princess,

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235647
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Feb. 08 2011,12:09)
    the exodus

    simcha jacobovici is somewhat of a different teacher then most. however i do find what he has to offer interesting.


    I stopped watching at the bit that went “…implies that god does indeed exist”.

    That is the logical fallacy of denying the antecedent.

    Is this supposed to be Abrahamic apology or serious archeology?

    They start with the question of exodus and move straight into the existence of gods.

    That's not honest.

    I'll go with what real archeologists have determined, especially the Jewish ones from Tel Aviv University that had everything to gain from demonstrating evidence for the exodus but actually concluded it never happened.

    Stuart

    #235656
    princess
    Participant

    Stuart,

    you cannot study the ancient without studying their god/gods, you are going to have to learn to get past this.
    do not rebuke everything Stuart, try to have an open mind.

    #235657
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2011,15:41)

    Quote (princess @ Feb. 08 2011,12:09)
    the exodus

    simcha jacobovici is somewhat of a different teacher then most. however i do find what he has to offer interesting.


    I stopped watching at the bit that went “…implies that god does indeed exist”.

    That is the logical fallacy of denying the antecedent.

    Is this supposed to be Abrahamic apology or serious archeology?

    They start with the question of exodus and move straight into the existence of gods.

    That's not honest.

    I'll go with what real archeologists have determined, especially the Jewish ones from Tel Aviv University that had everything to gain from demonstrating evidence for the exodus but actually concluded it never happened.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Something you're adamant against believing, despite all the evidence; huh?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235673
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Simcha jacobovici is not a real archaeologist.
    I think he is on a mission to justify the right of the Jews
    to inhabit their “promised ” land.

    Tim

    #235677
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 08 2011,21:36)
    Simcha jacobovici is not a real archaeologist.
    I think he is on a mission to justify the right of the Jews
    to inhabit their “promised ” land.

    Tim


    Greetings Tim…. Not withstanding the credability of Simcha as an archeologist….The presense of the Israelites in what was known as Palestine goes back beyond Solomon…The Palestinians are decendants of bedowins that were brought to this land by the assyrians in place of the Israelites which were taken captive in the sixth century BC….The deed for the land by far predates the Roman ocupation and subsequent naming of this land known as the promised land as Palistine…

    #235680
    princess
    Participant

    tim

    of course the first thing to do is discredit the individual then add the purpose.

    some seem to have a god phobia of some sort, hence the fear deters any knowledge that could be attain in regards to the anceints or other matters. tis a loss of the individual.

    too many wail and moan over such matters.

    take care tim.

    #235690
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Feb. 09 2011,00:44)
    tim

    of course the first thing to do is discredit the individual then add the purpose.


    Hi Princess,
    was that your attempt to first discredit me?

    I only said that Simcha was not a real archaeologist.

    He is a Canadian film director, producer, free-lance journalist.

    He holds a B.A. in Philosophy from McGill University and an M.A. in International Relations from the University of Toronto.

    This may make him interesting to some, but in no way does it make him an archaeologist? He shows no aptitude for science
    in my opinion.

    Tim

    #235692
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 09 2011,00:01)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 08 2011,21:36)
    Simcha jacobovici is not a real archaeologist.
    I think he is on a mission to justify the right of the Jews
    to inhabit their “promised ” land.

    Tim


    Greetings Tim…. Not withstanding the credability of Simcha as an archeologist….The presense of the Israelites in what  was known as Palestine goes back beyond Solomon…The Palestinians are decendants of bedowins that were brought to this land by the assyrians in place of the Israelites which were taken captive in the sixth century BC….The deed for the land by far predates the Roman ocupation and subsequent naming of this land known as the promised land  as Palistine…


    Thanks for the history timeline Theodore.
    But how does any of that relate to my statement
    of the purpose of Simcha in his telecasts?

    Tim

    #235693
    princess
    Participant

    tim

    in no way was it my attempt to discredit you, nor would i want to, i personally find you very likable.

    i disagree with your conclusion about jacobovici, science is not the forefront of his studies. i would tend to think more theology then anything.

    once again tim, any offense you felt, please accept my apology, no ill will intended.

    as always take care.

    #235696
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2011,07:04)
    Hi Princess,

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    awesome video.
    i watched the whole thing.

    #235738
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Dennison,

    Some people reject evidence; aye?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235845
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    You should watch Drdino.com

    #235879
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 09 2011,07:09)
    awesome video.
    i watched the whole thing.


    Did they tell you where they think Mt Sinai is?

    Stuart

    #235880
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 10 2011,20:14)
    You should watch Drdino.com


    That's a terrible thing to say!

    Stuart

    #236053
    kerwin
    Participant

    Stuart,

    Many Jews are secularist and or atheists.  The only Jews that are more sincere would be the most strict to scripture would be the either the Orthodox or Modern Orthodox sects of the Rabbinical tradition or the equivalent sect of other traditions.   Scientists in general have their biases and their private interpretations of the data.  I tend to think there is a link between the Jewish time in Egypt and the Heretic king.  There fall from grace in that society was probably linked to his in some way.  He obviously did not preach the same version of monotheism but sometimes it seems the Jews of Scripture are rather lenient with others beliefs.  After all they state Balaam serves God and then later state he was killed with the servants of a Baal.

    Edited to clarigfy meaning.

    #236057
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2011,16:24)
    Stuart,

    Many Jews are secularist and or atheists.  The only Jews that are more sincere would be the most strict to scripture would be the either the Orthodox or Modern Orthodox sects of the Rabbinical tradition or the equivalent sect of other traditions.  


    I am sure you are right. It might not be just the literal reading of the scripture of the religion that is the main point though. The exodus myth would be a mainstream idea that placed Jews firmly within the historical story of the Middle East, a kind of foot in the door when the politic of the existence of Israel is under attack from Islamic nations. I still think an atheist of Jewish ethnicity living in Tel Aviv would benefit from evidence in support of the exodus.

    Stuart

    #236149
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 11 2011,11:05)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 10 2011,20:14)
    You should watch Drdino.com


    That's a terrible thing to say!

    Stuart


    Lol,
    The guy lied on his taxes have some mercy on him.
    and he is a bit crazy, but i like some of the points he made though i disagree with him in many aspects.

    Is that not ok with you?

    #236174
    kerwin
    Participant

    Stuart,

    You are possibly correct that the opinion of any Jew could be biased in this case.  That is what peer review is about.  Exodus Decoded has been critisized both by biblical scholars and scientists.  I have not looked into it as yet.

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