The cross….not the correct symbol for adoration

[JustAskin]

Bare in mind always, that Satan wants us to take the focus off God. Wearing or holding up a Cross in front of you (in any sense) is can eventually lead to some Worshipping Jesus.

What was the reason for the Snake on a stick? What does it mean?

Moses instituted many Laws and rituals because the burden of following God's law was too much for the minds of the people at the time.
Jesus came and wiped away a lot of those laws and reinstated God's law.

Could the snake on a stick have been allowed as the ONLY worship symbol allowed by God – for that time – so that the people would not go making their own.

[banana]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 19 2010,00:34)

Bare in mind always, that Satan wants us to take the focus off God. Wearing or holding up a Cross in front of you (in any sense) is can eventually lead to some Worshipping Jesus. What was the reason for the Snake on a stick? What does it mean? Moses instituted many Laws and rituals because the burden of following God's law was too much for the minds of the people at the time. Jesus came and wiped away a lot of those laws and reinstated God's law. Could the snake on a stick have been allowed as the ONLY worship symbol allowed by God – for that time – so that the people would not go making their own.

If God tells us in the 10 Commandment that He gave us, is it then right to do whatever mankind wants to do? IMO no. That has always been the problem for mankind. He want to do what men wants to do, and in that lies the sin. Is a commandment there for us to keep or to ignore because I think it is right??? We all need to think about that. Satan wants us to think it is a symbol for Christianity. But is it? I think all of us have to prove what is right or wrong. 1 Thess. 5:21
As far as idols is concerned, anything can became an idol to us if we think we have to have it no matter what. That is humanity in genral He wants to do to belong to a group. Look around us…….

[terraricca]

JA
the bronze snake that moses lift up and the ones who look at it were health ,this represent Jesus Christ

Nu 21:9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived.
2Ki 18:4 He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan. )

Jn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so I, the Son of Man, must be lifted up on a pole,

this is Jesus saying that he has to give up is live and go back to the father to save whoever believed in him.

[Elizabeth]

To all

How many of you have heard talk about the “Mark of the Beast”? every body things it's 666, either on your forehead or on your right hand.
Has any one ever figured out who or what the “Beast” is? how can you know what his “mark” is, if you don't even know who the beast is?
What is it that the Bible calls a beast?

Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Referring to verses 4 – 7; in other words, a beast is a kingdom/government.
When Constantine won the battle after he had painted red crosses on the shields of his soldiers, he credited the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity”, and the cross not only became the empires mark, it also became the official mark of Christianity. Even the Crusaders fought under that banner. So to make this very clear, the “MARK OF THE BEAST/ROME” is, like it or not, the “CROSS”.
Now it's up to you to

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,02:39)

To all How many of you have heard talk about the “Mark of the Beast”? every body things it's 666, either on your forehead or on your right hand. Has any one ever figured out who or what the “Beast” is? how can you know what his “mark” is, if you don't even know who the beast is? What is it that the Bible calls a beast? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.   Referring to verses 4 – 7; in other words, a beast is a kingdom/government. When Constantine won the battle after he had painted red crosses on the shields of his soldiers, he credited the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity”, and the cross not only became the empires mark, it also became the official mark of Christianity. Even the Crusaders fought under that banner. So to make this very clear, the “MARK OF THE BEAST/ROME” is, like it or not, the “CROSS”. Now it's up to you to 1Th 5:21   Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   Georg

Hi Georg,

Do you see a connection to Zech.5:1-4?

Ed J

[Elizabeth]

Ed

NO, are you TRYING to be ridiculous?
Didn't your numbers tell you what I said about the cross?

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,10:13)

Ed Didn't your numbers tell you what I said about the cross? Georg

Hi Georg,

What does this mean?

Ed J

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,02:39)

To all How many of you have heard talk about the “Mark of the Beast”? every body things it's 666, either on your forehead or on your right hand. Has any one ever figured out who or what the “Beast” is? how can you know what his “mark” is, if you don't even know who the beast is? What is it that the Bible calls a beast? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.   Referring to verses 4 – 7; in other words, a beast is a kingdom/government. When Constantine won the battle after he had painted red crosses on the shields of his soldiers, he credited the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity”, and the cross not only became the empires mark, it also became the official mark of Christianity. Even the Crusaders fought under that banner. So to make this very clear, the “MARK OF THE BEAST/ROME” is, like it or not, the “CROSS”. Now it's up to you to 1Th 5:21   Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   Georg

Ed this is what I meant

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,16:47)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,02:39) To all How many of you have heard talk about the “Mark of the Beast”? every body things it's 666, either on your forehead or on your right hand. Has any one ever figured out who or what the “Beast” is? how can you know what his “mark” is, if you don't even know who the beast is? What is it that the Bible calls a beast? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.   Referring to verses 4 – 7; in other words, a beast is a kingdom/government. When Constantine won the battle after he had painted red crosses on the shields of his soldiers, he credited the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity”, and the cross not only became the empires mark, it also became the official mark of Christianity. Even the Crusaders fought under that banner. So to make this very clear, the “MARK OF THE BEAST/ROME” is, like it or not, the “CROSS”. Now it's up to you to 1Th 5:21   Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   Georg Ed this is what I meant Georg

Hi Georg,

So you do think Zech.5:1-4 represents a 'cross'.
I guess what your saying is we agree then it does represent a cross.

The vision of Zech.5:1-4 could even possibly represent what Selah mentioned…

Quote (selah @ Jan. 29 2010,18:12)

Ed J … Is it possible that this is what Constantine saw in the sky?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Ed

Is you nickname “thinker”?

Georg

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,17:11)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,16:47) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,02:39) To all How many of you have heard talk about the “Mark of the Beast”? every body things it's 666, either on your forehead or on your right hand. Has any one ever figured out who or what the “Beast” is? how can you know what his “mark” is, if you don't even know who the beast is? What is it that the Bible calls a beast? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.   Referring to verses 4 – 7; in other words, a beast is a kingdom/government. When Constantine won the battle after he had painted red crosses on the shields of his soldiers, he credited the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity”, and the cross not only became the empires mark, it also became the official mark of Christianity. Even the Crusaders fought under that banner. So to make this very clear, the “MARK OF THE BEAST/ROME” is, like it or not, the “CROSS”. Now it's up to you to 1Th 5:21   Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   Georg Ed this is what I meant Georg Hi Georg, So you do think Zech.5:1-4 represents a 'cross'. I guess what your saying is we agree then it does represent a cross. The vision of Zech.5:1-4 could even possibly represent what Selah mentioned… Quote (selah @ Jan. 29 2010,18:12) Ed J … Is it possible that this is what Constantine saw in the sky? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed

And you were the one that told me, “are we not all here to learn?”, this shows, you made a liar out of yourself, by trying to make a liar out of me.

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,03:26)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,17:11) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,16:47) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,02:39) To all How many of you have heard talk about the “Mark of the Beast”? every body things it's 666, either on your forehead or on your right hand. Has any one ever figured out who or what the “Beast” is? how can you know what his “mark” is, if you don't even know who the beast is? What is it that the Bible calls a beast? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.   Referring to verses 4 – 7; in other words, a beast is a kingdom/government. When Constantine won the battle after he had painted red crosses on the shields of his soldiers, he credited the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity”, and the cross not only became the empires mark, it also became the official mark of Christianity. Even the Crusaders fought under that banner. So to make this very clear, the “MARK OF THE BEAST/ROME” is, like it or not, the “CROSS”. Now it's up to you to 1Th 5:21   Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   Georg Ed this is what I meant Georg Hi Georg, So you do think Zech.5:1-4 represents a 'cross'. I guess what your saying is we agree then it does represent a cross. The vision of Zech.5:1-4 could even possibly represent what Selah mentioned… Quote (selah @ Jan. 29 2010,18:12) Ed J … Is it possible that this is what Constantine saw in the sky? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed And you were the one that told me, “are we not all here to learn?”, this shows, you made a liar out of yourself, by trying to make a liar out of me. Georg

Hi Georg,

How; explain your 'accusation'?

Ed J

[Elizabeth]

Ed

If you can't read, figure it out by your numbers.
I give you a hint; you said something I apparently believe which is not true.

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,16:54)

Ed If you can't read, figure it out by your numbers. I give you a hint; you said something I apparently believe which is not true. Georg

Hi Georg,

Why would you believe something that is not true?

Ed J

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,19:24)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,16:54) Ed If you can't read, figure it out by your numbers. I give you a hint; you said something I apparently believe which is not true. Georg Hi Georg, Why would you believe something that is not true? Ed J

He said that you said something that HE does not believe. His post tells you what He means. Go back and check it out……The post which is made on Feb. 2 its the last one on this page, or the first rather, since we are going backwards.
Irene

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,19:24)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,16:54) Ed If you can't read, figure it out by your numbers. I give you a hint; you said something I apparently believe which is not true. Georg Hi Georg, Why would you believe something that is not true? Ed J

Ed

Even so my wife already answered for me, I just want to point out how ridiculous you can be sometimes when you feel cornered.

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 04 2010,09:00)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,19:24) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,16:54) Ed If you can't read, figure it out by your numbers. I give you a hint; you said something I apparently believe which is not true. Georg Hi Georg, Why would you believe something that is not true? Ed J Ed   Even so my wife already answered for me, I just want to point out how ridiculous you can be sometimes when you feel cornered. Georg

Hi Geog,

Do I really need an interpreter to talk “Bible Truth” with you on their related issues?
The 'only' real problem is you know what you are talking about, but I don't?
I asked you about “Three” questions so far for you to explain to me
what you are talking about. But your comments seem to be sarcastic
and elusive at best. I have illustrated to you an interest in understanding your position,
and even asked for a copy of your book that you have wrote. You said to me on Dec. 15, 2009…

Quote (banana @ Dec. 15 2009,03:30)

Ed The truth is, you cant make money by telling the truth, and that is the truth. The unbeliever does not want truth, he does not care about the truth. Georg

You also said to me on the same day…

Quote (banana @ Dec. 15 2009,18:03)

Ed I knew that remark I made, “truth doesn't sell”, would come back and bit me, but I say, it is nevertheless the truth. Georg

Then you informed me that your brand of 'truth'(your book) would cost
me money; while I gave to you FREE the e-book “HolyCityBibleCode”.

Isaiah 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters,
and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come,
buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore
do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labor for
that which satisfieth not? Hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye
that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

After you received the book I gave you for free, you started to…
make demanding sounding questions instead of just reading the book. Here is what you said…

Quote (banana @ Dec. 17 2009,07:34)

Ed Yes I got your email, after installing the Adobe Reader, I was able to read your book. I read for about 15 minutes, then my eyes got blurry from all the numbers. So let me ask this, in plain English, and without any numbers, what do you believe? Is God one, two or three? Is Jesus equal to the Father or not? When Jesus was here on earth, was flesh, spirit, or both? You know, just a few questions to start with. Georg

Your questions here in this Post are obviously adversarial and intended for controversy.
Is this the reason you are reluctant to answer questions posed to you by others?
Do you think when people ask you questions, there motive is controversy?

If you intend to be a teacher of God's word, don't you 'think' you should talk to people a little nicer?
When people ask you questions, they may actually want to hear what you have to say is “The Truth”.
Think about that and, then perhaps when someone asks you questions, you may decide to answer.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Ed

You are so full of it I don't even know were to begin, but let me try.

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Quote (banana @ Dec. 15 2009,03:30)
Ed
The truth is, you cant make money by telling the truth, and that is the truth.
The unbeliever does not want truth, he does not care about the truth.

Georg
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You were arguing that your number system was for the believer, to help him prove God's existence; I said, the believer needs no other prove, he already believes; and the unbeliever cares little about what you have to prove to him.
The remark I made about not making money by telling the truth was referring to TV ministries. Name me one ministry on TV that does not sell their tapes or their books, whether they have truth in it or not.
You try to make a big thing out of offering your book for free; who wants it?
I had my book published the only way I knew, self publisher; little did I understand what they are. I have to by ten copies to get the price down to $15.00, I offered you that price, I don't think that is considered making money; that is referring to my next remark.

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Quote (banana @ Dec. 15 2009,18:03)
Ed
I knew that remark I made, “truth doesn't sell”, would come back and bit me, but I say, it is nevertheless the truth.

Georg
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Now, before I put down my next remark that you quoted let me just say this; I meant, and I still do mean every word I said there, but then I want you to look at what I ask “you”, and then point me back to were you answered those questions since I must have mist that.

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Quote (banana @ Dec. 17 2009,07:34)
Ed
Yes I got your email, after installing the Adobe Reader, I was able to read your book.
I read for about 15 minutes, then my eyes got blurry from all the numbers.
So let me ask this, in plain English, and without any numbers, what do you believe?
Is God one, two or three? Is Jesus equal to the Father or not?
When Jesus was here on earth, was flesh, spirit, or both?
You know, just a few questions to start with.

Georg
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I guess you didn't figure this post would bite you in the but either, did you?
You see how quick you are to accuse me of something which in fact you're doing? Not only that, now you claim I do it to others, you need a bigger sheep skin, you have out grown this one, your true colors are showing.
You can still answer those questions, “I am” still waiting.

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“you” said this;
If you intend to be a teacher of God's word, don't you 'think' you should talk to people a little nicer?
When people ask you questions, they may actually want to hear what you have to say is “The Truth”.
Think about that and, then perhaps when someone asks you questions, you may decide to answer.
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I didn't know you were a comedian too.
But yes, I can be nicer to people who are serious, and are not evasive.

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Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
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Do you really thing this is witnessing? just what do you think the average Joe would make out of this?

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Using your own words;
Think about that and, then perhaps when someone asks you questions, you may decide to answer.
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Georg

[terraricca]

ed
i have read your book well your part book ,and a Kat would not find her youngsters ,but i do respect everyone idea ,what bugs me is that so many hide behind the bible to forward they own ideas,

and that bugs many people ,and it think it is using Gods book for personal gains,that's a crime.

but overall that it is not even the truth, i mean scriptural truths.

[Elizabeth]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2010,17:38)

ed i have read your book well your part book ,and a Kat would not find her youngsters ,but i do respect everyone idea ,what bugs me is that so many hide behind the bible to forward they own ideas, and that bugs many people ,and it think it is using Gods book for personal gains,that's a crime. but overall that it is not even the truth, i mean scriptural truths.

terrararicca  Do you have any idea how much it cost to publish a Book?  Nicely…. And therefore I find nothing wrong with getting some of that  cost back to us.  We will never get all of it back.  Unless my Husband would be a Movie Star or had it Advertised on T.V. maybe then we would sale many, but this way No/  Even when you want to advertise it it cost money.  So don't be so quick to judge what you don't know of….We have not made a penny so far…..and if we did, you would not know what we would do with it, would you?
Irene

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