The bodies of satan, demons, and angels

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 03 2013,04:33)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,09:42) K think about this scripture ; Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection Rev 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. see the that the resurrected FIRST FRUITS ARE THE 144K AND WHEN TIME COMES THEY WILL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN WITH CHRIST ON EARTH THIS HIS THE WHOLE FULFILLMENT OF GOD'S PLAN T, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. “the dead in Christ shall rise first” is when the first resurrection occurs. Both the living and dead are caught up together in the clouds to meet Jesus as he descends to Mount Zion.

K

i agree with you but only the 144k in total are redeemed from the earth the other ones in Christ will be on earth ,

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,02:17)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,00:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,15:23) T see the that the resurrected FIRST FRUITS ARE THE 144K AND **WHEN TIME COMES** THEY WILL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN WITH CHRIST ON EARTH THIS HIS THE WHOLE FULFILLMENT OF GOD'S PLAN Quote What time comes? wakeup. w Quote What time comes? the time of the wedding of the groom and the bride T. What wedding? When? Who is getting married to whom? wakeup.

w

Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

[journey42]

kerwin,Nov. wrote:

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Journey42, The AKJV was translated by a state controlled religion whose “pope” was King James I.  It seems strange to advocate it against what you choose to call the NWO.   The NWO would prefer a more socialist translation than any of the modern versions you so easily condemn.

Kerwin

When the KJV came out, the NWO was not established yet, but already fully established by the time the new translations came out 40-50 years ago.  We are under them NOW.  They gave birth to your bible.

What better way for the NWO to corrupt the word of God than to set up bible colleges, teach their doctrine, invent their new translations, and encourage pastors to distribute these new translations to church communities THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.  I say they have succeeded and you have been caught also, for you trust them and not God that he delivered his word perfect.

Zondervan Publications …..who owns the copyright of THE NEW INTERNATIONAL version of the bible…….
Is owned by NEWS CORPORATION…..
Which is owned by RUPERT MURDOCH (Richest most powerful media publisher in the whole world)

Rupert Murdoch owns 2 publishing companies
•Zondervan Publications
•Harper Collins Publishing – who published the SATANIC BIBLE

Hello?

THEY ARE TEACHING IN BIBLE COLLEGES TO READ AS MANY VERSIONS AS POSSIBLE. BUT NOT KJV. THEY DESPISE THIS VERSION AND THOSE THAT READ IT.  HELLO?
THEY SAY LEARN TO READ THEM ALL.  PUT THEM ALL IN FRONT OF YOU AND SPREAD THEM OUT IN FRONT OF YOU LIKE PIERRE DOES, CAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONE GOD IS SPEAKING IN..
AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD IN ALL THIS?  
SOUNDS NOISY TO ME.

[terraricca]

j42

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PUT THEM ALL IN FRONT OF YOU AND SPREAD THEM OUT IN FRONT OF YOU LIKE PIERRE DOES, CAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONE GOD IS SPEAKING IN.. AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD IN ALL THIS?   SOUNDS NOISY TO ME.

FIRST DID I SAY TO SPREAD ALL THE BIBLES IN FRONT OF YOU NO ,NEVER SAY THAT ;AND I DID NOT DO THAT ;I READ THEM ONE AT THE TIME IN TIME ,;BUT WHAT I TRULY SAID IS THAT ALL BIBLES ARE IN SOME WAY CORRUPTED ;AND THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE ;BECAUSE THE TRUE BELIEVERS WILL HAVE THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH TO FIND THEIR WAY TO THE TRUTH OF GOD IN THE CORRUPTED SCRIPTURES ,EVEN WITHOUT THE HELP OF OTHER MEN ,ONLY BASED ON THEIR TRUE AND DEEP BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES MESSAGE ;AS A WHOLE ,

I do not have a bible version NWO and do not want it and so many others ,

[kerwin]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,07:46)

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 03 2013,09:44) Quote Journey42, The AKJV was translated by a state controlled religion whose “pope” was King James I.  It seems strange to advocate it against what you choose to call the NWO.   The NWO would prefer a more socialist translation than any of the modern versions you so easily condemn. Kerwin When the KJV came out, the NWO was not established yet, but already fully established by the time the new translations came out 40-50 years ago.  We are under them NOW.  They gave birth to your bible. What better way for the NWO to corrupt the word of God than to set up bible colleges, teach their doctrine, invent their new translations, and encourage pastors to distribute these new translations to church communities THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.  I say they have succeeded and you have been caught also, for you trust them and not God that he delivered his word perfect. Zondervan Publications …..who owns the copyright of THE NEW INTERNATIONAL version of the bible……. Is owned by NEWS CORPORATION….. Which is owned by RUPERT MURDOCH (Richest most powerful media publisher in the whole world) Rupert Murdoch owns 2 publishing companies •Zondervan Publications •Harper Collins Publishing – who published the SATANIC BIBLE Hello? THEY ARE TEACHING IN BIBLE COLLEGES TO READ AS MANY VERSIONS AS POSSIBLE. BUT NOT KJV. THEY DESPISE THIS VERSION AND THOSE THAT READ IT.  HELLO? THEY SAY LEARN TO READ THEM ALL.  PUT THEM ALL IN FRONT OF YOU AND SPREAD THEM OUT IN FRONT OF YOU LIKE PIERRE DOES, CAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONE GOD IS SPEAKING IN.. AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD IN ALL THIS?   SOUNDS NOISY TO ME.

Journey,

Satan has not waited until just recently to put his plans in order.  The NWO is what the Roman Empire attempted to establish a long time ago.  Free Masonry has been around since the 14th Century.  Our foe is not mortals.

[2besee]

Wakeup,

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You said that satan is not the cause of all evil

No. You didn't ask me that.
Your original question:

[/quote]2.Is satan all the evil in this world?[/quote]

In which I said 'no'.

Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”;
for God cannot be tempted with evil and he himself tempts no one;
but each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death. (James 1:13-15)

But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” But these men revile whatever they do not understand. (Jude 1:9-10)

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4. Why did God say this: Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: **I the LORD do all these things**.

Wow.
You have not heard a thing.
So I may as well not say another thing to you, because you won't hear.

Wakeup, one more time…. The word is not “evil”.
Get a better translation maybe.

Try the RSV (Revised Standard Version!)

[2besee]

So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV).

Journey and Wakeup,

Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No.

[journey42]

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j42 WHAT I TRULY SAID IS THAT ALL BIBLES ARE IN SOME WAY CORRUPTED ;AND THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE

Pierre,
It does matter.  How can you say that?

Psalms 12:6   The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

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;BECAUSE THE TRUE BELIEVERS WILL HAVE THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH TO FIND THEIR WAY TO THE TRUTH OF GOD IN THE CORRUPTED SCRIPTURES ,EVEN WITHOUT THE HELP OF OTHER MEN ,ONLY BASED ON THEIR TRUE AND DEEP BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES MESSAGE ;AS A WHOLE ,

The truth is in the Words of the Bible.  Exactly as they are, and God made it to go out to the gentiles, so he chose the translators.  They were not christians who translated, because the bible was not for them but for us.  They were used by God.

The bible says this;
2 Timothy 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

How can we establish God's doctrine if the Word is corrupted?
How can we use the scriptures for reproof if we think there may be some mistakes in there?
How can we correct someone?

You say “show me in the scriptures”
and you are shown
but you still don't believe
because you must think that God was not capable of delivering his word to us pure.  That he just let men corrupt it, and everyone was deceived for 4 centuries?
Would that be fair to all those people who trusted in God to guide them with his own words, when in fact he gave them a counterfeit?
Do you understand what I'm saying?

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I do not have a bible version NWO and do not want it and so many others ,

Thats good Pierre.

[journey42]

kerwin,Nov. wrote:

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Satan has not waited until just recently to put his plans in order.  The NWO is what the Roman Empire attempted to establish a long time ago.  Free Masonry has been around since the 14th Century.  Our foe is not mortals.

Kerwin

The house of Rothchilds commissioned the NWO to be SET UP in 1773.
But in 1776 it was ESTABLISHED by Adam Visop and called the ILLUMINATI ….this one was different……  This one wanted a one world order and these were the ones who started putting their plans into practise. What sets this group aside from what you were stating, Freemasons etc, this group had a plan, had the resources, had the people in high places and they put it all in motion which now is in it's late stages only awaiting their leader.  
So not quite the same although Freemasons are their brothers.

The KJV came out in early 1600's.
ILLUMINATI in 1776.

So to sum it up, the KJV was given to man before the “powers” of the NWO were established.

[journey42]

2besee,Nov. wrote:

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So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV).

Journey and Wakeup,

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Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No.

2Besse

Salvation comes from truth.
The basics can be found in all versions, but it when it comes to the finer details, the newer versions will not reveal.

Can you spot the difference?  And then tell me why I think it's my right to question.

KJV
HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.

NIV
HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One.

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2013,19:47)

Wakeup, Quote You said that satan is not the cause of all evil No. You didn't ask me that. Your original question: [/quote]2.Is satan all the evil in this world?[/quote] In which I said 'no'. Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted with evil and he himself tempts no one; but each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death. (James 1:13-15) But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”  But these men revile whatever they do not understand. (Jude 1:9-10) Quote 4. Why did God say this: Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: **I the LORD do all these things**. Wow. You have not heard a thing. So I may as well not say another thing to you, because you won't hear. Wakeup, one more time…. The word is not “evil”. Get a better translation maybe. Try the RSV (Revised Standard Version!)

2Besee.

You have a babit of denying scriprures
**that you dont like**.
I suppose that scripture has been omitted in your bible.
If that is the case,than there must be more omissions.

Satan's desires is of the flesh.
Man's spirit is the desires of the flesh,which satan has
thempted man with.
Eve was tempted by satan with the fruit/material.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,17:07)

2besee,Nov. wrote: [/quote] Quote So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV). Journey and Wakeup, Quote Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No. 2Besse Salvation comes from truth. The basics can be found in all versions, but it when it comes to the finer details, the newer versions will not reveal. Can you spot the difference?  And then tell me why I think it's my right to question. KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One.

J42

KJV
HOSEA 11:12 Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.

NIV
HOSEA 11:12 Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One.

SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,00:56)

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,17:07) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2013,19:53) Quote So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV). Journey and Wakeup, Quote Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No. 2Besse Salvation comes from truth. The basics can be found in all versions, but it when it comes to the finer details, the newer versions will not reveal. Can you spot the difference?  And then tell me why I think it's my right to question. KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. J42 KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE

T.

Its like comparing light with darkness.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,20:29)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,00:56) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,17:07) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2013,19:53) Quote So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV). Journey and Wakeup, Quote Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No. 2Besse Salvation comes from truth. The basics can be found in all versions, but it when it comes to the finer details, the newer versions will not reveal. Can you spot the difference?  And then tell me why I think it's my right to question. KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. J42 KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE T. Its like comparing light with darkness. wakeup.

W

I am not looking for opinions ;so stick to the question,

it seems you do not want to answer it right

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,20:29) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,00:56) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,17:07) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2013,19:53) Quote So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV). Journey and Wakeup, Quote Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No. 2Besse Salvation comes from truth. The basics can be found in all versions, but it when it comes to the finer details, the newer versions will not reveal. Can you spot the difference?  And then tell me why I think it's my right to question. KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. J42 KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE T. Its like comparing light with darkness. wakeup. W I am not looking for opinions ;so stick to the question, it seems you do not want to answer it right

T.

First of all; that scripture is not prophecy.
It is a statement.
What happened to knowledge?
Where has it gone?
It has gone no where: because it was never there.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,02:02) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,20:29) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,00:56) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,17:07) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2013,19:53) Quote So, because the NIV has something wrong behind it.. that makes ALL other Bible translations ALSO wrong (all except the KJV). Journey and Wakeup, Quote Q) Do you believe that the version of Bible one reads is a salvation issue: Yes or No. 2Besse Salvation comes from truth. The basics can be found in all versions, but it when it comes to the finer details, the newer versions will not reveal. Can you spot the difference?  And then tell me why I think it's my right to question. KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. J42 KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE T. Its like comparing light with darkness. wakeup. W I am not looking for opinions ;so stick to the question, it seems you do not want to answer it right T. First of all; that scripture is not prophecy. It is a statement. What happened to knowledge? Where has it gone? It has gone no where: because it was never there. wakeup.

w

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First of all; that scripture is not prophecy. It is a statement.

and you know that right how do you prove that you are right in your view show me that so I can see the truth in you ;

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What happened to knowledge? Where has it gone?

that is what i was thinking when I wrote the above question ,so let see it

[journey42]

Pierre

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J42 KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE

Was not Jesus from the tribe of Judah?

Revelation 5:5   And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Would not those who follow Christ automatically be of the same tribe?

1 Peter 2:9   But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath call you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

A Royal priesthood.  Judah.  Ruling with Christ.  Judah.

Psalms 48:11   Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Psalms 60:7   Gilead is mine, and Manasseh is mine; Ephraim also is the strength of mine head; Judah is my lawgiver;
Psalms 78:68   But chose the tribe of Judah, the mount Zion which he loved.

I hope this answers your question.
So who are you going to believe Pierre?

If the Lords Word is true from the beginning, not “was” true, but “is true”, then his Word is preserved intact to last throughout “all generations” And the KJV is still going, but the new translations have not served “all generations” have they?
So if we were without the truth for four centuries, then that would make God a liar.

Psalms 119:160   Thy word is …true… ..from the beginning….: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Psalms 100:5  For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and …his truth… endureth …to all generations….
Psalms 102:18   This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD.

There are scriptures here and there that show God is angry with Judah, but that was Judah then, the physical Judah, and all of Israel fell.
This Judah spoken off, is the Spiritual Judah.

[journey42]

To all

Also check this out and spot the difference

KJV – Published in 1611
Psalm 119:160   Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

NIV – Published in the 1970's
Psalm 119:160   All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal.

New Living Translation – Published in 1996
Psalm 119:160   The very essence of your words is truth; all your just regulations will stand forever.

English Standard Version – Published in 2001. revised in 2007 & 20011 (didn't they get it right the first time?)
Psalm 119:160   The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures forever.

New American Standard Bible -Published in 1963
Psalm 119:160   The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting. Shin.

Holman Standard Christian Bible – Published in 2004
Psalm 119:160   The entirety of Your word is truth, and all Your righteous judgments endure forever

International Standard Version – Published in 1998
Psalm 119:160   The sum of your word is truth, and each righteous ordinance of yours is everlasting.

Net Bible – Conceived in 1995
Psalm 119:160   Your instructions are totally reliable; all your just regulations endure.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English – Published in 1997
Psalm 119:160   The origin of your word is the truth and all the judgments of your righteousness are for eternity.

GOD'S WORD® Translation – Published in 1963
Psalm 119:160   There is nothing but truth in your word, and all of your righteous regulations endure forever.

These are the NEW AGE BIBLES, and there are more versions who don't like to admit that God's Word is true from THE BEGINNING.
Can you see why the KJV is the most hated bible?
They give you all these new versions to compare, and your comparing them with new versions and not with the Word of God he said he preserved.

[kerwin]

Journey42,

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KJV – Published in 1611 Psalm 119:160   Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. NIV – Published in the 1970's Psalm 119:160   All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal.

There are significant differences between the two but this is not one.  If there is any flaw it is the word “beginning” in the KJV as God's Word has been true since eternity, there is no beginning point at which is was true.  

Interpretation makes them both true as you can say that the KJV  is speaking of the beginning of creation and it is silent of the time before.  The NIV's choice covers from eternity to eternity.

Note: That is not the edition that was published in 1611.  It is an edited version, most likely from the 19th Century.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,21:36)

Pierre Quote J42 KJV HOSEA 11:12   Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. NIV HOSEA 11:12  Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One. SINS THIS IS A PROPHECY ,MAY I ASK YOU WHICH OF THOSE TWO VERSION CAME TO BE TRUE Was not Jesus from the tribe of Judah? Revelation 5:5   And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Would not those who follow Christ automatically be of the same tribe? 1 Peter 2:9   But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath call you out of darkness into his marvelous light. A Royal priesthood.  Judah.  Ruling with Christ.  Judah. Psalms 48:11   Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments. Psalms 60:7   Gilead is mine, and Manasseh is mine; Ephraim also is the strength of mine head; Judah is my lawgiver; Psalms 78:68   But chose the tribe of Judah, the mount Zion which he loved. I hope this answers your question. So who are you going to believe Pierre? If the Lords Word is true from the beginning, not “was” true, but “is true”, then his Word is preserved intact to last throughout “all generations” And the KJV is still going, but the new translations have not served “all generations” have they? So if we were without the truth for four centuries, then that would make God a liar. Psalms 119:160   Thy word is …true… ..from the beginning….: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 100:5  For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and …his truth… endureth …to all generations…. Psalms 102:18   This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD. There are scriptures here and there that show God is angry with Judah, but that was Judah then, the physical Judah, and all of Israel fell. This Judah spoken off, is the Spiritual Judah.

J42

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And Judah is unruly against God,,even against the faithful Holy One.

IS THIS QUOTE IN HOSEA 11-12 NOT WHAT REALLY HAPPEN YES
WAS IT NOT IN JUDAH THE THE PEOPLE OF JUDAH THAT CRUCIFIED THE HOLY ONE OF GOD AND ALSO REJECTED THE SAINTS

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but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. KJV

WHEN WAS JUDAH RULETH WITH GOD  AND  FAITHFUL WITH THE SAINTS

Hos 12:2 The LORD hath also a controversy with Judah, and will punish Jacob according to his ways; according to his doings will he recompense him.KJV

Hos 12:2 The LORD has a charge to bring against Judah;
he will punish Jacob according to his ways
and repay him according to his deeds. NIV

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but that was Judah then, the physical Judah,

Hos 13:14 “I will ransom them from the power of the grave;
I will redeem them from death.
Where, O death, are your plagues?
Where, O grave, is your destruction?

SO THIS ALSO IS NOT A PROPHECY BUT FOR THE EARTHLY JUDAH AND ISRAEL

PLEASE SHOW THE TIME ,???

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