THE BIBLE and GOD

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  • #114423
    dirtyknections
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    is not EXCLUSIVE to Christianity…I can point you to similar experiences from people of ALL faiths and creeds…

    #114432
    Not3in1
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2008,18:43)
    Hi not3,
    What is your gospel?
    Do these folk too need the mediator between men and God?


    Christianity calls for a Mediator, other religions do not. Goodness, even the Catholic's have a Mediator (Priest) to their Mediator (Jesus).

    I agree that it seems useful for God to create ONE plan for all; that is, Jesus is the savior of the world. But even Jesus spoke of “other sheep”.

    #114436
    dirtyknections
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    Steven Hawkings the renowned scientist…said something in a debate he was participating in on “GOD vs SCIENCE” the other day that stuck out to me…

    He said, (I am paraphrasing) “This whole idea of GOD coming down from heaven and voluntarily getting himself nailed to a cross to atone for mankinds sins….seems a little barbaric and anciently inhumane….seems like an all powerful GOD could find a better way to save mankind from itself”

    ???

    Either way…whether peoples faiths involve a mediator or not…people all around the world are claiming to have found “GOD”…

    Christians have to realize that their extremely spiritual and life changing experiences are not just common to christians…

    People of ALL faiths have been moved to serve “GOD”

    And MAndy, you bring up a good point…when you talk to people of other faiths…their experiences and descriptions of “GOD” sound strangely familiar to the average devout Christians experiences

    I wonder why ???

    (i'm sure someone will break out this scripture soon
    2 Corinthians 4:4)

    #114446
    NickHassan
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    Quote (dirtyknections @ Dec. 17 2008,01:19)
    EDIT***

    is not EXCLUSIVE to Christianity…I can point you to similar experiences from people of ALL faiths and creeds…


    Hi DK,
    Yes you do have to choose.
    But only one has been raised from the dead in fulfillment of prophecy.
    Listen to him.

    #114447
    NickHassan
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    Hi DK,
    Clearly Mr Hawkins never grasped that Jesus is the Son of God.

    #114448
    NickHassan
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    Hi not3,
    Jesus showed us the other sheep-in mt 25- saved from the second death by the mercy of God after the second resurrection.

    #114449
    dirtyknections
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,04:08)

    Quote (dirtyknections @ Dec. 17 2008,01:19)
    EDIT***

    is not EXCLUSIVE to Christianity…I can point you to similar experiences from people of ALL faiths and creeds…


    Hi DK,
    Yes you do have to choose.
    But only one has been raised from the dead in fulfillment of prophecy.
    Listen to him.


    :)

    can you prove it?

    #114450
    NickHassan
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    Hi Not3,
    So is Jesus only the mediator for us and the heathen can directly approach God?

    #114451
    NickHassan
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    Hi DK,
    Do you not have proof yet in your heart?

    #114461
    dirtyknections
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,04:12)
    Hi DK,
    Do you not have proof yet in your heart?


    I have proof of GOD….

    I just have not proof of the validity of everything in the bible…

    #114463
    dirtyknections
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,04:12)
    Hi Not3,
    So is Jesus only the mediator for us and the heathen can directly approach God?


    Maybe…the GOD of the bible has done stranger things…

    #114466
    NickHassan
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    Hi DK,
    The choice of whom to follow is difficult? Several ways to God for men, one for each culture?
    God wants to unite men in Christ and we need to discern what is false from the words of truth.

    #114473
    dirtyknections
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,04:42)
    Hi DK,
    The choice of whom to follow is difficult? Several ways to God for men, one for each culture?
    God wants to unite men in Christ and we need to discern what is false from the words of truth.


    Again..how do you know?

    #114475
    NickHassan
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    Hi dk,
    Do you not yet have the Spirit as witness?
    1 John 5:6
    This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    Rev22
    16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

    #114476
    dirtyknections
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,05:39)
    Hi dk,
    Do you not yet have the Spirit as witness?
    1 John 5:6
    This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    Rev22
    16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


    Nick..brother…i understand these scriptures…I understand the experiences that people claim to have associated with these scriptures….

    My questions still remain brother Nick….

    Can you prove these “inspired expressions” apart from the bible?

    And how do account for the similar things experienced by those of other faiths around the world?

    Are not their experiences valid? If not why are yours?

    #114481
    NickHassan
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    Hi DK,
    We walk by faith not by sight.
    Taste and see that the Lord is good.
    Feed your heart and do not let your mind be a harsh filter.

    #114487
    dirtyknections
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,05:52)
    Hi DK,
    We walk by faith not by sight.
    Taste and see that the Lord is good.
    Feed your heart and do not let your mind be a harsh filter.


    excellent words…

    but my question is..put faith in what? and why?

    #114495
    NickHassan
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    Hi dk,
    Exactly.
    I hope you find an answer soon.

    #114499
    dirtyknections
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 17 2008,07:00)
    Hi dk,
    Exactly.
    I hope you find an answer soon.


    :)

    #114501
    NickHassan
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    Hi DK,
    Mankind is under the wrath of God

    Jn3
    36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

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